OK,My 94Q that has the latteral body roll problem (earlier post) is still in the Infiniti shop and no problem can be located. If the problem is not found, I have to go to plan B.
I originally was aiming to purchase a 98Q with under 50K miles, when I noticed the 94 with 47K miles that I purchased. My theory was to to save the $10,000 difference and end up with a quality, low mileage car.
After reading many of the posts on this site, I am sort of coming to the conclusion that the earlier Q cars are best suited for do-it-yourselfers with mechanic ability.
My reason for picking Infiniti was that I need one that has a very quiet cabin and excellent stereo. Again, the Q45 looked like the one.
So, now I would like to know if I will be disappointed if I have to go back to my original plan and purchase a 98Q?
Do these 3rd generation cars have the same tire problems, plentum cleaning needs, etc.
Are there any costly maintenance quirks associated with the later model cars?
Just how much difference is there in the performance of the 3rd generations compared to the 90-96 models?
I do love high performance cars (I have a 69' 911 Porsche track car), but this car will be used for 100 to 400 mile daily work related drives.
If I am able to solve the latteral stability problem of my present car, I will keep it. I love it except for having to take Dramamine to drive it!
Thanks for your input,Jerry SmithAlice, Texas94Q47,000 miles
94Q compared to 98Q
They simply have to be able to find the cause of your problem.Did you buy it there?
97-01 are known the be just about bullet proof.
But the "problems you mentioned aren't problems just normal maintenance.many cars today drive w/ tires that are too weak and the hi camber that uses the tire hard just means better handling/control.
Also all cars need TB cleaning after 30-to40k miles.
Fred...
PS; Am moving this thread to to Infinti general chat..
97-01 are known the be just about bullet proof.
But the "problems you mentioned aren't problems just normal maintenance.many cars today drive w/ tires that are too weak and the hi camber that uses the tire hard just means better handling/control.
Also all cars need TB cleaning after 30-to40k miles.
Fred...
PS; Am moving this thread to to Infinti general chat..
Palmerwmd,
I will make sure that they have checked the front bar, surely they have. Remember, it does not have a rear bar. It is the base model.
Also, I can not find any mention, link or otherwise a way to get to "Member's Rides".
It does not appear on "my" NICO homepage. I still haven't seen any pictures of you'r cars yet.
Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
Sorry to be such a clutz!
Jerry
I will make sure that they have checked the front bar, surely they have. Remember, it does not have a rear bar. It is the base model.
Also, I can not find any mention, link or otherwise a way to get to "Member's Rides".
It does not appear on "my" NICO homepage. I still haven't seen any pictures of you'r cars yet.
Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
Sorry to be such a clutz!
Jerry
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I have a feeling your dealer isn't qualified to work on the '94 Q. There are very few non-engine related problems that can't be quickly diagnosed and fixed. Just because they're a dealer doesn't mean their techs have been around long enough to do a lot of work on older cars.
The '98 is probably a good highway cruiser, but front strut suspension is a little less accurate and steering is mushy. Also less ooomph from smaller engine. And to me the interior design is very cluttered compared to earlier models.
Remember that the '90-'96 Q was the top-of-the-line Nissan model from Japan (President) whereas '97+ Qs were the Nissan Cima, which is a step down.
The '98 is probably a good highway cruiser, but front strut suspension is a little less accurate and steering is mushy. Also less ooomph from smaller engine. And to me the interior design is very cluttered compared to earlier models.
Remember that the '90-'96 Q was the top-of-the-line Nissan model from Japan (President) whereas '97+ Qs were the Nissan Cima, which is a step down.
Greg,I tried to talk to the Infiniti dealership today to see is they had found the problem yet. I was told they were test driving the car after completing alignment of it. I asked for a return call but never received it. So..........am guessing they didn't find the problem.
Will keep everyone informed and updated!Thanks for all of the supportJerry
Will keep everyone informed and updated!Thanks for all of the supportJerry
greg_atlanta wrote:Remember that the '90-'96 Q was the top-of-the-line Nissan model from Japan (President) whereas '97+ Qs were the Nissan Cima, which is a step down.
1997 was a watershed year for Nissan/Infiniti. They got behind the financial eight ball in a big way during the mid 90's and changed their lineup significantly.
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"Did they do a decent job checking your sway bars?
Because that's what anit sway bars are meant to prevent."
Not really as the springs are always stiffer than the bars!They are meant to reduce it [sway] and stock Q have none on the rear and t and active have very little ones....[less than 1/3 of the rear springs]. Even if the bars were as stiff as the springs the sway would only be reduced by HALF or slightly less
Primarily the rear shocks rebound stiffness reduces the sway in quick manuvers. The rebound stiffness is twice the rate of the springs when new and declines every mile.
When the sway gets noticable replace the rear shocks!
Even with Eibach springs and the 20 mm rear bar, a worn rear shock will let the rear sway and undilate significantly!Factory shocks last 20,000 miles and the Tokico blues maybe double that to maintain as new control. Stiffer springs and [really stiff] sway bars will cause them to wear faster to the point where the BLUES are shot by 50,000 miles at best on the rear.
They are considered a wear item just like tires and brakes.
Much rear sway is caused by single ply sidewall tires vs oem dual ply and not inflating them to performance vs smooth ride pressures.
Just installed my 5th set of shocks [Tokico Blues] on the rear at 240k......new at 50k, then 120k, then 185k, 240k ....replaced at 70k, then 65k, .........now 55k life as I modified the rear their useful life kept diminishing! But the Eibach springs mounted at 185k are the worst on over stressing them.
Because that's what anit sway bars are meant to prevent."
Not really as the springs are always stiffer than the bars!They are meant to reduce it [sway] and stock Q have none on the rear and t and active have very little ones....[less than 1/3 of the rear springs]. Even if the bars were as stiff as the springs the sway would only be reduced by HALF or slightly less
Primarily the rear shocks rebound stiffness reduces the sway in quick manuvers. The rebound stiffness is twice the rate of the springs when new and declines every mile.
When the sway gets noticable replace the rear shocks!
Even with Eibach springs and the 20 mm rear bar, a worn rear shock will let the rear sway and undilate significantly!Factory shocks last 20,000 miles and the Tokico blues maybe double that to maintain as new control. Stiffer springs and [really stiff] sway bars will cause them to wear faster to the point where the BLUES are shot by 50,000 miles at best on the rear.
They are considered a wear item just like tires and brakes.
Much rear sway is caused by single ply sidewall tires vs oem dual ply and not inflating them to performance vs smooth ride pressures.
Just installed my 5th set of shocks [Tokico Blues] on the rear at 240k......new at 50k, then 120k, then 185k, 240k ....replaced at 70k, then 65k, .........now 55k life as I modified the rear their useful life kept diminishing! But the Eibach springs mounted at 185k are the worst on over stressing them.
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" frame is NOT bent. The cradle that holds the axle was bent."
Ah the rear subframe bushings from an accident that was never repaired properly.
Shows the importance of paying for an extremely accurate alignment [from an unbiased expert] to see the variations from perfect before you buy a car. Plus an examination by a body/frame shop to spot covered up problems.
Atlanta has 11 shops that rebuild TOTALLED and unrepairable wrecks......they look great till you measure things.
Have seen cars come in that were actually 3 cars welded together.
We had a 94Q that should have been totalled, [left front over a curb at 40 mph] in for a repair, the insurance company fought us tooth and nail for every item but after $4,100 in suspension/frame straightening and wheel/hub brake replacement [just the left front] and $2,300 in minor body/paint work it was well in spec. We didn't make much because if it exceeded $6500 it would have been totalled.
Ah the rear subframe bushings from an accident that was never repaired properly.
Shows the importance of paying for an extremely accurate alignment [from an unbiased expert] to see the variations from perfect before you buy a car. Plus an examination by a body/frame shop to spot covered up problems.
Atlanta has 11 shops that rebuild TOTALLED and unrepairable wrecks......they look great till you measure things.
Have seen cars come in that were actually 3 cars welded together.
We had a 94Q that should have been totalled, [left front over a curb at 40 mph] in for a repair, the insurance company fought us tooth and nail for every item but after $4,100 in suspension/frame straightening and wheel/hub brake replacement [just the left front] and $2,300 in minor body/paint work it was well in spec. We didn't make much because if it exceeded $6500 it would have been totalled.