92 hardbody blown engine and trans What to do?

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SurraTT
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I recetly purchased a 92 hardbody ext cab, orignally it was getting coolent in the oil, so i did some research and seen the timming chain/ cover problems, and decided to get the truck.

The truck is in great condition 95,000 miles very very clean. Upon getting the truck home, i had a dumb moment and now the transmission is bad and motor is also. Due to the tow dolly and RWD. ( i know i know) Its a auto trans and 2.4 4cly motor


Im just wanting a nice clean little truck, not my DD, not turbo fast, just a nice cleannn old school truck.


My question is, what do i do?? Just replace the Ka and trans with originals and keep on going? If so all i can find around me is newer motors and trans, 95 96 97 and the people tell me they wont fit. Ive got a 1996 FSM but cant find a 92 FSM id like to do know if the 95+ engine and trans will work fine in my 92 truck if i swap some sensors and such. If they will then thats probably my best bet.


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RT22
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Your best bet is to find a hard body that has been wrecked buy it and swap motor transmission and all electrics and accessories, that would be the cheapest fix. That is if you can do the swap yourself or with some free buddy help. if you can find a donor truck the yr will not matter as all the stuff that changes from yr to yr like the computer and sensors will be on the donor truck. As far as i know the engines and trans will physically fit from most all yr hardbodies. Good luck. or if you are good get rebuild kit rebuild motor and find a transmission in a junkyard.

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Here's some newer FSM's - Hope they help.

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/hardbody/

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you should drop TDI!

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RT22 wrote:Your best bet is to find a hard body that has been wrecked buy it and swap motor transmission and all electrics and accessories, that would be the cheapest fix. That is if you can do the swap yourself or with some free buddy help. if you can find a donor truck the yr will not matter as all the stuff that changes from yr to yr like the computer and sensors will be on the donor truck. As far as i know the engines and trans will physically fit from most all yr hardbodies. Good luck. or if you are good get rebuild kit rebuild motor and find a transmission in a junkyard.
That would be fine if i had the room for another truck and wanted the spare parts. All i really need is a motor and trans, this truck is pristine other than that. If i could find a ext cab with the newer dash and all that was black, i might woudl try to swap all that over too but its just to much right now, i need to get the truck driving, im planning to keep it for a long time.

Im thinking i can swap most of my accessories over to the new long block, and with the trans, i can just leave in the ckps.

AZhitman wrote:Here's some newer FSM's - Hope they help.

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/hardbody/

i have them, i need the FSM for my 1992 Do you know where i can find that one?

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silveradobeast wrote:you should drop TDI!

Turbo Diesel ??

im not really wanting to do a engine swap right now, unless this Ka24 is just a horrible motor. from what i can tell long as i change the timing crap ill be ok?

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Yeah, coolant in the oil points to the timing chain. When the guides wear off the chain tends to rub holes in the water jacket. Shouldn't be too difficult or expensive to fix if you can do it yourself. That seems much easier than swapping a motor if thats all that is wrong.

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SurraTT wrote:
silveradobeast wrote:you should drop TDI!

Turbo Diesel ??

im not really wanting to do a engine swap right now, unless this Ka24 is just a horrible motor. from what i can tell long as i change the timing crap ill be ok?
true but for me it would just be a excuse to drop a tdi...

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i found locally a motor and trans from a 96 i think ima just get it and swap over most of my stuff thats different on the 96's im not swapping over ECU and electronic stuff, if i have to strip the block down all but head and such ill do that.


anyone know anything about a 92 FSM?? i reallly need it

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Get the 96 engine. It's the same engine, and aside from OBD2 vs OBD1, you will be able to see the differences easily.

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AZhitman wrote:Get the 96 engine. It's the same engine, and aside from OBD2 vs OBD1, you will be able to see the differences easily.

ya thats what i figured, what about the timing cover, and distributor can i use my 92 distributor with the 96 timing cover and my 92 wiring?

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i found a motor from a 1995, so from what i can tell the distributor will be fine.


What about the auto trans, i have a 92 auto 2wd, floor shift.

i found a 97 auto 2wd floor shift , i think itll also work just fine, even tho there is ckps sensor i just wont have it plugged up.


this is my plan so far. 95 engine , 97 transmission

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anyone have any info on the Auto trans?? will a 97 auto floor shift work fine in my 92 auto floor shift???

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got the motor and trans out, trying to decide on just replacing the motor and trans. or doing some kinda swap, if i did swap id want a motor that was coil on plug.

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SurraTT wrote:got the motor and trans out, trying to decide on just replacing the motor and trans. or doing some kinda swap, if i did swap id want a motor that was coil on plug.
Is COP that big of a deciding factor, or do you just happen to have an LS1 lying around?

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seang wrote:
SurraTT wrote:got the motor and trans out, trying to decide on just replacing the motor and trans. or doing some kinda swap, if i did swap id want a motor that was coil on plug.
Is COP that big of a deciding factor, or do you just happen to have an LS1 lying around?

cost is a factor, and id want a Nissan 4cly or 6cly i actually like a RWD VQ35 with the auto trans. that be just fine with me even tho vq40 is in the trucks it woudl eb fine with a 3.5 imo

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Whatever motor you do get, get the wiring harness and ECU with it. Imagine having to pay for those parts, almost as much as you did for the motor itself, by having to hunt them down individually.

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im thinking of just the motor and trans i found . 95 motor and 97 transmission

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So i got motor and trans just the other day.


So far seems like trans is perfect. i swaped the electrical speed sensor for my old sensor that drives a cable for speedo. Also it has a CKPs that i wont even need. I replaces the trans filter and gasket, also replaced the front and rear seals. Ill be adding a trans cooler between the radiator and condenser. And eventually ill convert to electric fan once i reasearch which ones to use and the best way to wire them in where they are fully automatic.

The motor was from a 93. Im replacing the pcv, oil pan gasket, rear main seal, intake , exhaust, and valve cover. the timing chain guides and tensioner look really good, like new. so im going to leave them for now, till at least i drive it for a while and see if their is any rattle.


so far so good, im glad i got direct replacement. im just hoping its not so slow i cant stand driving it. Im blocking off the EGR and removing all the other emission stuff.





Any tips , or info on what i should replace or check?

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Well i got it all in and running. ended up doing a timing set on the new motor due to guide broken and tensioner was really weak.

Anyway i also done the emissions removal.

just few questions. the carbon canister i removed it and plugged the hard line up, is this what everyone else is doing?? it seems the gas tank is bulding high pressure, im not sure if i like the carbon canister gone.



Also when i have just the air filter on with no cover it has a very weird sound, allmost like a vacuum leak but there isent. is that normall?? soon as i put the cover on its quiet.



other than that its running really good, but the flex section is rusted and leaking bad but thats getten fixed tom.


truck has no power compared to what im used to Vq35 maxima 6 speed. but o well ill live with it.

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oh and for reference a

97 Auto trans will work just fine in a 92 truck. i had to switch the speed sensor. and just didnt use the crank sensor. for some reason i could not find a answer on this when i searched..


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