91 n/a boosting question

[colby1207]

i know everyones gonna say to do the twin turbo swap but i just have a simple question how much boost can the n/a handle has anyone ever actually tested it out i know the compression is high but its just a question. im just toyin with ideas. also if i was to do the twin turbo swap wheres the best place to get a good quality engine and everthing to swap it to tt. thanks!

[colby1207]

and i was thinkin of just doing a single turbo running at 6-8 psi would this be just big time over doing it on the n/a

[J30tChumpCar]

I am doing nothing more then repeating what I read somewhere so be careful, 5 to 5.5psi

[NolimitZ32]

1. Search, for gods sake, please search, this has been asked many, many times.
2. 6 psi is what I've seen. There is one guy making something like 500HP on a boosted NA but he has lots of money in it and VERY good tuning. If you just want to play around I'd say 5psi and good fueling (running a bit on the rich side) should be safe (by safe I mean no immediate explosions) but in general its not a good idea because I havent heard too many stories of boosted NAs lasting much over a year.

[fyneyoungstunna]

go over to 300zx club.com
your answer is there.
there is a guy boosting on stock internals using e85 and making 600+ hp. hes been running it for a few months now.

everone says that the NA cant handle boost, but its the same internally as the TT minus a few bits...

Ignorance and lack of people trying is what breeds these myths that the NA cannot handle a lot of boost...

[colby1207]

thanks i was just waitin for the hate replys haha

[aroche25]

Hey man this thread might be somewhat helpful with your na-t questions.drifting-t540904.html

[vulcanrush]

everone says that the NA cant handle boost, but its the same internally as the TT minus a few bits...

Ignorance and lack of people trying is what breeds these myths that the NA cannot handle a lot of boost...

then why don't YOU try it?

the pistons are different, different wristpins, different compression, that's not "a few bits".

it's not ignorance, it's just that for purposes of reliability, there's a reason nissan with their sophisticated engineers made an na model and a tt model.

the guy over at 3zc:

one) it's not his daily-driver, it's a project
two) he invested a lot of money into it....you can do anything if you have the funds for it.

turbo your na, and let's see what happens

[colby1207]

Well from readin what he's doing it's pretty possible and has pushed crazy number and is still being reliable... Yea alot of time and money but that's what this car is to me also a project... Now im debating on just Gettin a jdm 2jz and puttin a huge snail on it! Or maybe a ls1 cause itd just be different! Who knows!

[colby1207]

1. Search, for gods sake, please search, this has been asked many, many times.
2. 6 psi is what I've seen. There is one guy making something like 500HP on a boosted NA but he has lots of money in it and VERY good tuning. If you just want to play around I'd say 5psi and good fueling (running a bit on the rich side) should be safe (by safe I mean no immediate explosions) but in general its not a good idea because I havent heard too many stories of boosted NAs lasting much over a year.

Well obviously I couldn't find anything If I asked... Thanks for the input anyways.

[NolimitZ32]

I just google searched "vg30de + turbo" and found pages upon pages of threads. you just gotta know how to query. right back at ya And you are welcome. Lets go back to the beginning and start with this, What's your budget for this build? Because that is the only factor that will determine whether you can boost a NA or not.

[vulcanrush]

Well from readin what he's doing it's pretty possible and has pushed crazy number and is still being reliable... Yea alot of time and money but that's what this car is to me also a project... Now im debating on just Gettin a jdm 2jz and puttin a huge snail on it! Or maybe a ls1 cause itd just be different! Who knows!

if you have the funds, it's possible.
good luck with your project.

also if i was to do the twin turbo swap wheres the best place to get a good quality engine and everthing to swap it to tt. thanks!

use google and do your own hw.

[colby1207]

budget does not really matter i make enough to cover my toys haha not saying i can drop 10 grand instantly but a little time i can haha but yea after reading the whole thing on 300zx club im just gonna play around it not to expensive to just get a new motor for these things.... so blow it off! haha

anyone that has this same question this guys doing the unthinkable! haha\
http://www.300zxclub.com/showthread.php?t=198333

[vulcanrush]

budget does not really matter i make enough to cover my toys haha not saying i can drop 10 grand instantly but a little time i can haha but yea after reading the whole thing on 300zx club im just gonna play around it not to expensive to just get a new motor for these things.... so blow it off! haha

anyone that has this same question this guys doing the unthinkable! haha\
http://www.300zxclub.com/showthread.php?t=198333

i think you have a lot of reading to do.

why would you even get a jdm 2jz, for example, when they're still selling brand-new usdm 2jz engines. http://www.titanmotorsports.com/fatosh.html

i'll bet you 100 bucks you won't do anything, these threads are ricers looking for attention.

[colby1207]

100 bucks? Alright I'll take that bet sir n/a single turbo project will start next month. And what the hell do u mean ricer? There's nothing ricer about me or any of my cars my 300 is the only import I've ever owned... So suck it!

[NolimitZ32]

1. Telling a veteran member to "Suck it" not the best idea.
2. If you can drop 10k in a month and not bat an eye you should be going for a vh-turbo build or something, and not messing with the DE.
3. If you have the budget and want to do a High Compression boosted build then you need to be looking at some Carrillo, Pauter, or Crower rods and custom forged treated pistons and once again not even messing with the stock DE bottom end.
4. LS1 and 2jz in the Z32 is not unheard of and not that different, you want to be different stick a 20b or a ej257 in there.

[fyneyoungstunna]

Sure doesnt know how to read well for a veteran member.
There was NOT a lot of money sunk into the build that Colby posted.
thats a STOCK NA with STOCK internals and yes he DOES drive it a LOT.
.....and its still alive and kicking....

So:"There might be bugs on the rest of you mugs but it aint no bugs on me!" lmao

[colby1207]

Haha didn't mean to offend you see man im a welder this is a hobby of mine that's all my project cars are there toys not DD's in any way I'm Lookin for something dumb to do while I'm home... I'm mixed on ideas cause I might just strip the interior and put good suspension and run autocross here in corpus. Im just saying ideas aloud and like productive input not like your a dumb it can't be done. Just yea. Well have a good one I'll stick to 300zxclub peace out fellas

[NolimitZ32]

Haha didn't mean to offend you see man im a welder this is a hobby of mine that's all my project cars are there toys not DD's in any way I'm Lookin for something dumb to do while I'm home... I'm mixed on ideas cause I might just strip the interior and put good suspension and run autocross here in corpus. Im just saying ideas aloud and like productive input not like your a dumb it can't be done. Just yea. Well have a good one I'll stick to 300zxclub peace out fellas

If you are referring to me, I am not the least bit offended, just making a point about etiquette. All I did was let you know from my fairly extensive experience with these cars what usually works and what doesn't. Vulcan. . . can be a little brash but he knows his stuff too. As for ideas aloud, I don't see whats wrong with suggesting a EJ or 20B for a full custom swap, no one really called your idea dumb, we are just letting you know what happens in most of these "Turboed a NA" situations.