90 Sentra with stock CA at the track!

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Well, I brought the sentra to the track again to see if I had what it takes to get the hang of drag racing a FWD car and let me tell ya'll it's real challenge.

1st run was against an RB26 powered S14= I got smoked! The excuse was the fact that the tree service was in PRO function and I got caught waiting for the 2nd staging light while the linesman was telling me to come up some more.

S14 Sentra

R/T 1.179 R/T 1.287

60' Ft 2.156 2.799

330 5.642 6.928

1/8 8.347 9.903

MPH 92.55 83.11

1000 10.612 12.414

1/4 12.530 14.547

MPH 114.75 104.72

Next race was worse! The car seem to always bog when I release the clutch. I mean it wouldn't go anywhere. This resulted in me getting smoked again by a supra. The supra went [email protected] and the sentra went 14.862 @ 106.11mph.

Next race was a tad bit better as I was pitted-up against a turbocharged neon. I added a crap load of timing between 1000 and 4000rpm to help this car get out of the hole; and to prevent it from falling on its face like it had been doing. This time I hooked-up my DIS-2 and used my 2-step feature. Even though I'm not a master at using it yet, the car was able to build-up some boost at the line (5psi), the tree staged and the neon guy jumped a little to fast. He ended up running a 14.136 @111.02mph and the sentra went 14.236 @ 111.38mph giving me the win because he fouled. That launch felt so much better, but I was still able to spin them drag radials good through 2nd gear.

Last run of the day for me; I ran a stock mazda 6. I did a few more timing corrections, took out some more fuel and let some more pressure out of the radials. The trees staged, but counted down unequally, so the mazda took off. I was sitting there holding the 2-step and holding my rpm @ 7000 for about 10 seconds at which time the tree finally started coming down and the sentra jumped off the line with some aggression. I actually felt like this was going to be the 12-11 second run because the car never felt like that off the line.

Got through first selected 2nd which felt kind of rough, tried to draw 3rd, tried to draw 3rd (hello, Mr. gearbox or clutch:confused: ), tried to draw any gear and it was a no-go. Finished the last run with a 16.487 @ 60.20mph while being in neutral. The mazda did a 17.446 @ 79.56mph. My 60ft was at a 2.368 which was the best of the day despite the fact that the throw-out bearing let me down. Oh well, it takes me 35 minutes to pull down the transmission and inspect, but I know it's the release bearing because it whines when I try to engage it and it was makeing noise before I got to the track..

First 2 runs were done at 18psi and the last 2 at 20psi. The gearbox held-up, the stock engine held, the drag radials held, but the user failed to master the art of launching a car in adrag racing environment.

And add to the fact the I installed the MSD 72lb/hr injectors just yesterday, so tuning wasn't the best, but at least I didn't lean out or blow-up the engine.

The stock CA18 is the bomb and it's going to take one to kill it. I earned my respect for the day, but I'm not happy with my skills at drag racing. So to make me happy, I had to literally out an uncountable amount of car lengths on some boosted accords all following each other whilst I was stuck in 4th gear. the look on their faces had to be priceless. I maybe a pus at the track, but I am something to be reckoned with on the highway.

So it's time to fix the release bearing and put in some dyno time to tune the new injectors.

Dee


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Its all about practice and 60 foots. FWDs make everything hard, Good job considering the problems.

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wow 111 mph. Thats hauling some ***.

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Quote »Its all about practice and 60 foots.[/quote] You are so right, man. Plenty of people estimate their cars at being a 12second this or an 11second that, but your car ain't nothing of the sort until you master the 60ft.

I noticed when I lowered the 2 step staging rev limit from 7000rpm to 6000rpm and raised the timing up considerably from 1000 through around 4000rpm, the car no longer fell on it's fell on its face when I launched as well it coming out of the hole a lot smoother, yet aggressive.

On that last run, I was on my way to a nice time because of the changes I had made in the ecu and the car took off so fast it scared me. Comparing the 60' ft of all my other time slips, the last one (2.368)was much better because the highest 2.909, 2.799, 2.758 was when the car was boggin nastily.

The turbo is beat-up too, so I'm going to inspect it to see if the wheels were dragging because the thing had been smoking for a long time. I guess I'll chaulk it up to trial error.

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awesome, that car sounds damn fast, just need to spend some time learning how to launch the phizzuck outta it. im guessing tuning would be nice too. sounds like those trap speeds show that your car can go muuuuch faster than mid-14s. good luck with it. by the way, ive still got dibs on those injectors you just took out.

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Quote »awesome, that car sounds damn fast, just need to spend some time learning how to launch the phizzuck outta it. im guessing tuning would be nice too. sounds like those trap speeds show that your car can go muuuuch faster than mid-14s. good luck with it. by the way, ive still got dibs on those injectors you just took out.[/quote] Yeah, I know it can, but I was having a real hard time keeping the car on boost off the line. With a T25 and 13psi of boost, I went a 13.9@103mph and that's because that thing spools up hella quick no matter what you do. With this T3/T04E stage III, you have to have the engine at its sweet spot and timing has to be spot on.

I'll admit, my timing was set more for efficient/fuel saving crusing than it was for an all out assault at the track. The turbo has been smoking for quite some time because I'm too reluctant to take it out, but it's a possibility that it's dragging it arse as well. I literally have to force the engine to wake up the turbocharger. EVen you don't come out of the hole with at least 6000rpm, it falls flat on it's face and you will see turbo lag like you never seen it before. It took nearly 3 seconds after I launched and it bogged down to get this thing to wakeup. And when it did, people say it was popping going down the track, so since I installed the 72lbers last minute, I knew I wasn't going to be all that perfect, but at least I tuned it enough to drive it nearly 200miles and not blow it up after 20psi. I'll get it right!!!!!!!! And you're still good for the 50lbers..........

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Thats why im gonna miss AWD. 1.7 60 foots without thinking, 1.8s if im asleep.

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Just to give an update as to what I found tonight, I took the transmission which took about 4 hours instead of the 40minutes because the driver's side CV axle got semi-welded to the splines on the diff. When I went to drain the gearbox, it had very little gear oil (less than a 1/4 of a quart). I think I heated the gears and caused the car to drag on its nuts? I'll be taking the transmission in for inspection and possible repair as well as the left side axle. I knew I shouldn't have taken this car.

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haha, thats no fun. hope it goes ok.. sounds like when i go to change my oil.. famous quote from my dad "jesus christ! is that all that was in there?!?!!"

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I've been charged and found guilty of being a bit stupid. I was just reminded by my friend who's going to open and inspect the transmission, that he doesn't recall me putting gear oil in the the transmission last August. Furthermore, the car was wrecked in September and haven't been touched until December when I took it to the track and beat it. The left side (long axle) wouldn't come out so I had to remove rear mount and lower the transmission down with the axle wedged in the diff. Sucks, but at least I have an extra transmission with axles from my g/f's old sentra that got wrecked and that one has a phantom grip in the diff.

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At least it wasn't the one with the helical lsd....or was it? I think we've all done stupid stuff. I habitually put plug wires on wrong after a rebuild....then spend over an hour trying to figure out what's wrong.

I did manage to install an alarm on my turbo Grand Am. Has starter kill, two way pager remote, turbo timer, remote start....pretty much does everything but drive the car. It did take the better part of two days but I got it right the first time.....woohoo.

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Quote »At least it wasn't the one with the helical lsd....or was it?[/quote] Unfortunately, it was. Can you say $1200 bucks wasted? I'll get another one, but the old one out of the silver car just got a new case after the accident and will be in service as of later today. Congrats on getting the alarm done. I too just installed a keyless entry system on one of my elantras and am now waiting on my best buy hook-up for the next one.

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Though the hybrid transmission hasn't been opened yet and I've charged and found myself guilty of being a Lazy Arse at times, I put in a new transmission and new release bearing last night and guess what; the dayy-uuum thing did the same thing. So I guess it's really safe to assume that the 20psi launches on sticky BF goodrich drag tires at 7000rpm while sitting on the 2-step for over 6 seconds took out the clutch instead of the guesstimated release bearing or transmission with no gear oil in it:spank (I need to be). So now I got to take the transmission back down, pull the clutch out (in which I should have did in the 1st place) and repeat the process again:withstup . I'm an @$$:slap

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Right here for stupid people!!! Welcome to the club Dee...


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