9 1/2 wide rims on the FRONT? will they even fit? your opinion?

[redsx13]

Originally designed as a staggered fitment i am looking at a set of rims that is 18x8.5 front +35 offset, 18x9.5 rear + 35 offset . But i have a couple of questions maybe nico could help me out with.

1. I want to run the 18x 9.5's all the way around, will 9.5's fit on the front?

2. whats your opinion, think it will it look weird?

Rims are sportmax 962, car is an 03 350z touring
Modified by redsx13 at 11:44 PM 3/26/2009

[aris_unlimited]

Why do you want to run the 9.5s on all 4 tires? The only reason for going with wider rims would be to put wider tires on them and I don't think anything over a 255/40-18 will fit on the front, and you can do that with an 8" rim (depending on tire). Other than that you are just adding weight.

I ordered the TSW thruxtons last weekend and went with an 8" front and 9.5" rear both with a 20 mm offset.

[mychalous]

keep it staggered, you probably won't like the added steering wheel effort to turn. (though it may be negligible) Definitely don't go with sportmax either, get something worth putting on your Z. and if you can't afford anything better, then save.

[evildky]

255 is about right for a 9.5" wheel

[redsx13]

Why do you want to run the 9.5s on all 4 tires? The only reason for going with wider rims would be to put wider tires on them and I don't think anything over a 255/40-18 will fit on the front,

hmm, I don't know about that. I'm running 255/40/18 on the front right now, it seems like there's plenty of room. my ideal setup would be to run a 265 on the front and a 275 on the rear. better yet 275 front 285 rear.

I've go through somewhere around 22 tires in 10k miles, and i have determined that a difference of 10 (ex. 235front 245rear) is the best setup to achieve a neutral front and rear bias.

now if i run a 265 on a 8.5 and a 275 on a 9.5, the front tires are going to look too wide, and the rear are going to be stretched.

tires are measured in mm, so if i run a 265f and a 275r that's a difference of 10mm (.39 inches). If i run a 8.5f and a 9.5r that's a difference of 25mm (1 inch). this means that in order to have the correct and equal tire to rim fitment for may ideal setup i would have to run a 9 inch rim on the front and a 9.5 on the rear. which is very rare for an aftermarket staggered fitment.

[Watermelonwarrior]

Do you have a 350z?Right now I have 275 in the back and 255 in the front. I don't think I can go to much wider on the front but the back I think I can go to 285. Front is 9.5" and 10" on the back

[aris_unlimited]

My guess is, that no he doesn't. And that yet another tool from the 240sx chat has started spamming his questions in other forums.

[kuhan]

9.5" in front will be ok, but the +35mm offset is terrible. Stick with offsets between 18-25mm for nice aggressive look.

Wait...is this for 350z? if not, then nevermind...

[evildky]

now if i run a 265 on a 8.5 and a 275 on a 9.5, the front tires are going to look too wide, and the rear are going to be stretched.

tires are measured in mm, so if i run a 265f and a 275r that's a difference of 10mm (.39 inches). If i run a 8.5f and a 9.5r that's a difference of 25mm (1 inch). this means that in order to have the correct and equal tire to rim fitment for may ideal setup i would have to run a 9 inch rim on the front and a 9.5 on the rear. which is very rare for an aftermarket staggered fitment.

um, you got the math right but the fit wrong, a 255 is abotu 10" wide secton width, actually a 265 fits pretty squarly on a 10" wheel, a 275 woudl nto be stretched on a 9.6, it's a bit wide but doable, and a 265 is equally oversized for an 8.5

but yes, most wheel manufacturers make either whole inch incriments of half insh incriments, unless you go with a fulll custom form CCW or similar

[redsx13]

Do you have a 350z?Right now I have 275 in the back and 255 in the front. I don't think I can go to much wider on the front but the back I think I can go to 285. Front is 9.5" and 10" on the back

My guess is, that no he doesn't. And that yet another tool from the 240sx chat has started spamming his questions in other forums.

dude! that's harsh!! i wouldn't post here if i didn't have a 350.


Modified by redsx13 at 7:35 PM 4/2/2009

[ldstang50]

um, you got the math right but the fit wrong, a 255 is abotu 10" wide secton width, actually a 265 fits pretty squarly on a 10" wheel, a 275 woudl nto be stretched on a 9.6, it's a bit wide but doable, and a 265 is equally oversized for an 8.5

but yes, most wheel manufacturers make either whole inch incriments of half insh incriments, unless you go with a fulll custom form CCW or similar

evil I have to disagree with you a bit.My stock wheels are 19x10 rear and come with 265 stock and they do NOT fit square. A square on a 10" wheel is going to be about a 285

On my stock wheels I'm running 295/30/18s up front and 315/30/19s in the rear. Granted these are Hoosier R compounds, but that really shouldn't matter.

[evildky]

tire selection will play a large part, but mathmatically a 255 should be about right fro a 10 wheel, but yeah I run 295's on 11's on my 240Z and 315's in the rear on 12's but they are V710's

I'm kinda suprised to hear you are able to fit 315's int eh real on stock wheels, it didn't look like the body had room for much over the stock tire, good to know

[ldstang50]

To be honest, I didn't think it would fit until I put them on.So far no rubbing. The tire does stick out from the fender a bit. I'm a little worried about rub under hard press, but I haven't gotten the tires warm enough to generate that much grip and really find out.

[bmike818]

Do you have picture buddy? I want to see please

[ldstang50]

I'll have to take some later. Car is back in storage

[aris_unlimited]

Since we got all the tire guru's in one place lol, I was wondering how would a 245/40-18 fit on an 18X8 wheel. I was planning on running this on the front of my Z (thought I'd gotten an 8.5" wide wheel) and all the info I find says it'll fit...but I don't want it to look goofy as hell.

[redsx13]

evil I have to disagree with you a bit.My stock wheels are 19x10 rear and come with 265 stock and they do NOT fit square. A square on a 10" wheel is going to be about a 285

On my stock wheels I'm running 295/30/18s up front and 315/30/19s in the rear. Granted these are Hoosier R compounds, but that really shouldn't matter.

f*** ya, i want that kind of fitment. we need to talk, what size are your front rims. whats your alignment settings?

[redsx13]

Since we got all the tire guru's in one place lol, I was wondering how would a 245/40-18 fit on an 18X8 wheel. I was planning on running this on the front of my Z (thought I'd gotten an 8.5" wide wheel) and all the info I find says it'll fit...but I don't want it to look goofy as hell.

it will look fine

[ldstang50]

fu* ya, i want that kind of fitment. we need to talk, what size are your front rims. whats your alignment settings?

I have an 07 Nismo. Stock wheels 18x9 front, 19x10 rear. Completely stock suspension besides a front sway bar.Alignment is as follows (this is off the top of my head, alignment sheet is out in the car)front left -.3deg camber slight tow outfront right -.8deg camber slight tow outIf I'm correct in my math, I'm running 1/8" of total toe out up front

rears are both at -1.8deg camber ( I was hoping to be around -1.0 but the right side won't adjust below -1.8)toe in rear is at 0, but under acceleration it goes to slight toe out at .01 degrees both sides

Tires are being remounted later this week, should have pics this weekend

[redsx13]

I have an 07 Nismo. Stock wheels 18x9 front, 19x10 rear. Completely stock suspension besides a front sway bar.Alignment is as follows (this is off the top of my head, alignment sheet is out in the car)front left -.3deg camber slight tow outfront right -.8deg camber slight tow outIf I'm correct in my math, I'm running 1/8" of total toe out up front

rears are both at -1.8deg camber ( I was hoping to be around -1.0 but the right side won't adjust below -1.8)toe in rear is at 0, but under acceleration it goes to slight toe out at .01 degrees both sides

Tires are being remounted later this week, should have pics this weekend

got a couple questions..

1.why are you running toe out in the front? is there a benefit to this?2. why are you running different front cambers for your left and right wheels? your front cambers non-adjustable right?

[ldstang50]

got a couple questions..

1.why are you running toe out in the front? is there a benefit to this?2. why are you running different front cambers for your left and right wheels? your front cambers non-adjustable right?

toe out up front helps with turn in. The best way I can try to describe it by writing instead of using my hands as a demonstration is the inside tire will ALWAYS be on a tighter arc than the outside tire. By having toe out, the inside tire will always be turned at a sharper angle than the outside, thus helping the car to turn in. I think it has to be the way MY car came from the factory. I can't adjust front camber, correct. Trust me, if there was a way to eek out .05deg more negative camber up front, I'd be all about it. So I'm stuck at running different cambers up front......I pray for a lot of left hander corners!

[redsx13]

your toe example actually makes alot of sense, thanks.

have you considered adjustable camber arms? im looking at some myself, i think i have too much front and rear camber.
Modified by redsx13 at 12:25 AM 3/31/2009

[ldstang50]

your toe example actually makes alot of sense, thanks.

have you considered adjustable camber arms? im looking at some myself, i think i have too much front and rear camber.

Modified by redsx13 at 12:25 AM 3/31/2009

maybe in the future. changing the control arms will put me in street modified 2 class for SCCA auto-x. Right now I'm competing in Bstock where changing the control arms is illegal. I've actually thought about for trackdays, but the hassle of changing back and forth between track days and auto-x turns me off.I should have some pics for you this weekend. I have an auto-x up in Devens Mass with the SVT owners of America. Should be fun kickin some Cobra butt

[CrimsonRockett]

OP, be a man and order some real fitting wheels.

19x10 -5, 19x11 +0

Perfect fitment on a Z33.

[redsx13]

OP, be a man and order some real fitting wheels.

19x10 -5, 19x11 +0

Perfect fitment on a Z33.

first of all i would never run 19's on a track car, second of all how in the hell would that fit a z with stock fenders, and lastly who even makes wheels like that?

The biggest spacer i can run on my cars current setup would be a 25mm. That would make my setup 18x8 +5mm, and i may rub like that. If you say i could run a 19x11+0, that would be the equivalent of running a 18x8 -38.1.That would mean that my rims would stick out 2.7 inches farther than they are now.




Modified by redsx13 at 7:30 PM 4/2/2009

[docwra]

Watch as I throw this cat amongst those pigeons over there



Red Z33: [F]19x9.5 +4 [R]19x10.5 -15

Silver Z33: [F]19x9.5 -6 [R]19x10 -15

Im hoping to be fitting some [F]10J +5 [R]10J -16 Work Equips on mine soon. It will be close, but they will go on

[CrimsonRockett]

first of all i would never run 19's on a track car, second of all how in the hell would that fit a z with stock fenders, and lastly who even makes wheels like that?

The biggest spacer i can run on my cars current setup would be a 25mm. That would make my setup 18x8 +5mm, and i may rub like that. If you say i could run a 19x11+0, that would be the equivalent of running a 18x8 -38.1.That would mean that my rims would stick out 2.7 inches farther than they are now.

See post above.

My friend just ordered new Work VS-XX in those exact sizes(what I posted).

1. Ofcourse a track car shouldn't run 19's. 18's with a thick tire would do.2. Fitment of bigger wheels on Z33's is cake. A lot of people are scared of dialing in a few degrees of camber. Camber is your friend. No pulling required. Roll the little lip flat and you're set.3. Work, Volk, SSR, etc.

I'm a big wheel fitment guy.

If you're going with 18's, do something a little bigger.

18x10 fronts have been done several times with a thick tire.

I'll see if I can find a picture of the Z with RPF01's running 18x10 all around with an insanely thick tire(and still looked good).

[docwra]

I'll see if I can find a picture of the Z with RPF01's running 18x10 all around with an insanely thick tire(and still looked good).

What, this one??





18x10.5 +15 Front, 18x10.5 +0 Rear

[CrimsonRockett]

What, this one??

18x10.5 +15 Front, 18x10.5 +0 Rear

YES.

Holy hell does that look good.

I prefer stretch to be honest(nothing over the top), but god damn does that look awesome.

[docwra]

The first one has had some arch surgery I think, and the last is on bags, but kinda shows what you can do .......