8 speed automatic transmission

[bigmo93]

hey guys, i have a 2008 Nissan Rogue SL and i just thought of bringing this discussion online to see what other peoples opinions are on this. Ive had a faulty CVT transmission before and also have noticed that other people online have had problems to. If Nissan can't perfect the CVT transmission why don't they try making an 8 speed transmission. My mom drives a 2013 Audi Q5 which is kind of a CUV but more of an SUV. The transmission in that car is an 8 speed automatic transmission. To my knowledge, the way an 8 speed transmission works is when you're cruising on the highway the car will go into the highest gear possible with low rpms using less gas. The reason why I'm bringing this up is because i know BMW has done it too, and i know Nissan is no competitor to Audi and BMW but still, i think they perfected it. The reason why people buy CUVs is for gas mileage and still want something like an suv without the gas guzzler. My moms audi gets 23 mpg city and 30 highway. Its amazing especially for an SUV Audi. I might be out of my head here but i just thought to bring it up to see what other people think of it.

[hawki]

Interesting topic my friend. But Nissan + regular auto transmission ++ "8-speed" - I do not think we will see these combinations anytime soon.

Heck I will buy the 2014 Rogue today -if it comes with just 6-speed auto transmission (with a shifter), like Rav-4 has.
I test drove Q5 - it's a beauty - the drive & the performance is one of the best in the CUV class/size; and mpg is not too fur (may be better after the cvt ages and starts having all those nasty issues).
We really like the new design and what it offers in 2014 Rogue, test drove 3 times already but because of the CVT - we are not pulling the trigger yet. (there is already 1 reported CVT failure on this forum). Also waiting for Consumer Report's full testing/scoring of the 2014 Rogue.

Nissan can offer regular 6-8 speed auto-transmission as an option besides their CVT. I think auto-transmission will out sell CVT. They can even charge $1000 more for the regular auto transmission and I think buyer will still choose the auto over CVT.
But I doubt Nissan will ever do that.

It would be interesting to see what next gen Infiniti QX50 (2015 ?) brings.
If it is similar to new Rogue's size, styling, and features with more HP (170HP on rogue I find bit under power, I find) with 7 or 8 speed auto with shifter - that would be a great CUV.

[bigmo93]

thanks for the reply, sadly i can't see Nissan ever trying a 6 speed or 8 speed automatic because i guess they're gonna keep trying to perfect the CVT. Honestly I've heard a couple people already have problems with the CVT in the 2014 rogue and its only been out for about 2 or 3 months. I can only imagine whats gonna happen in a couple years. Ive had a transmission failure on my car, and honestly, i don't know why so many people are freaking out and saying its dangerous and what not. Its not dangerous, all that really happens is make that whining noise, but then again, I've heard people completely lose acceleration which is kind of concerning. Honestly, i was really disappointed with the Re design Rogue, i think its hideous and almost looks like the CRV which just looks like a mini tank. I loved the First gen Rogue, which is what i have. The first gen rogue has a sporty look to it which i absolutely love. Which is why ill never trade my car in for the new one. Another reason why i brought up the 8 speed was because i just heard that nissan is releasing the 2015 frontier diesel with an 8 speed automatic transmission. I know its just a concept, but maybe if the 8 speed transmission in the frontier works then maybe they can consider putting it in the rogue? no idea, but yeah i try to drive my moms Q5 as much as possible.

[darylzero]

Nissan is fully committed to the CVT, it will not happen. I wish it would, but it won't. I would have traded in my Rogue for a 2014 if it did come with a regular trans. I will not buy another Rogue or Nissan because of the CVT. Granted CVT's are unfortunately becoming the norm for a lot of car manufactures. I can't stand so many many things associated with the CVT, even the damn sound of it. Plus the fact that new Rogues only come with a 3 yr. warranty on the CVT, no frickin' way would I buy into that.
To your comparison point though I believe Jeep Cherokee has a 9 speed automatic now.

[Rockhound2.0]

I can't stand so many many things associated with the CVT, even the damn sound of it. Plus the fact that new Rogues only come with a 3 yr. warranty on the CVT, no frickin' way would I buy into that....To your comparison point though I believe Jeep Cherokee has a 9 speed automatic now.

Perhaps it's just semantics, but I always cringe when I see people mention the "sound" of a CVT when referring to the engine's sound when held at higher RPMs. Sometimes it reads as if some folks actually think the CVT is making noise itself. I do agree, though, that the behavior and characteristics of a CVT take some getting used to and frankly aren't going to be accepted by everyone. Apparently to Nissan, if that leads you to another brand, then so be it.

As for the ZF 9-speed in the new Cherokee, Chrysler had to delay production on the Cherokee four times due to apparent transmission software issues.

The reason why I'm bringing this up is because i know BMW has done it too, and i know Nissan is no competitor to Audi and BMW but still, i think they perfected it.

The ZF 8-speed AT found in the BMW 5-seies (F10) is also proving troublesome; owners have experienced complete failure within a few thousand miles. Even 'conventional' automatics are far from trouble-free when a new unit rolls out.

The first gen rogue has a sporty look to it which i absolutely love. Which is why ill never trade my car in for the new one.

If you loathe the 2nd-gen so much, why are you speculating about a transmission option that will never occur? Nissan has made it clear that the CVT is their transmission of choice going forward on most of their offerings aside from the Z/GT-R and most Infiniti models.

And you're right, Nissan is not a direct competitor with BMW or Audi, but they would like to position Infiniti to compete in those segments. If you want a premium luxury CUV, Infiniti will gladly sell you a FX (QX70) with a conventional 7-speed automatic. The new QX60, which is based on the Pathfinder, is CVT only, though.

[bigmo93]

HAHA! speaking of trannys, i had to make an appointment with nissan because i started hearing that whining noise from the transmission. The transmission i have now is already a replacement. So looks like transmission #3 is on its way

[CarlBigGun]

We have a 2008 Nissan Rogue and on my way to work it started acting funny when i pushed on the gas pedal while driving. There was no weird noises and no dash board lights came on. The car did a shuddering feeling when i would press on the gas while driving. I made it to work, after work I started the car and everything seemed fine. The car went into reverse and I backed up, i put in drive and it started to jerk again slightly when i pushed on the gas. I drove further down the road and every time i pushed on the pedal it would shudder. I came to a stop sign and this time when i pushed on the gas there was nothing, the engine was running but the car would not go. The RPM s would not go passed a 1000. No dash lights came on. I put the car back into park and tried to reeve the engine but the engine would not go pass 1000 RPMS so i shut the car off. I started the car again and the engine RPM's were back to normal. I put the car in drive and continued down the road. There still was that same shuddering feeling when i pressed the gas though. I came to another stop sign. This time when I went to accelerate the car did not want to go, then the car finally stalled and the Check engine lite came on. I started the car again and the engine was normal but when i put the car in gear this time there was nothing, no reverse, no drive, the engine would reeve but the car would not go. The tow guy came and we put it in neutral and pushed it so it could be towed and once we got it on the truck the car would shift and stay in park. The car would also shift back into neutral to come off the tow truck and then shift back into park again, but would not move once shifted in drive or reverse. Anybody have any problems like this and what kind of solutions can you help us??????

[daltonvol]

We have a 2008 Nissan Rogue and on my way to work it started acting funny when i pushed on the gas pedal while driving. There was no weird noises and no dash board lights came on. The car did a shuddering feeling when i would press on the gas while driving. I made it to work, after work I started the car and everything seemed fine. The car went into reverse and I backed up, i put in drive and it started to jerk again slightly when i pushed on the gas. I drove further down the road and every time i pushed on the pedal it would shudder. I came to a stop sign and this time when i pushed on the gas there was nothing, the engine was running but the car would not go. The RPM s would not go passed a 1000. No dash lights came on. I put the car back into park and tried to reeve the engine but the engine would not go pass 1000 RPMS so i shut the car off. I started the car again and the engine RPM's were back to normal. I put the car in drive and continued down the road. There still was that same shuddering feeling when i pressed the gas though. I came to another stop sign. This time when I went to accelerate the car did not want to go, then the car finally stalled and the Check engine lite came on. I started the car again and the engine was normal but when i put the car in gear this time there was nothing, no reverse, no drive, the engine would reeve but the car would not go. The tow guy came and we put it in neutral and pushed it so it could be towed and once we got it on the truck the car would shift and stay in park. The car would also shift back into neutral to come off the tow truck and then shift back into park again, but would not move once shifted in drive or reverse. Anybody have any problems like this and what kind of solutions can you help us??????

Carl, I had a nearly identical problem with my 2004 Murano. The transmission was "burnt up" as the Nissan tech put it to me. Get that thing to Nissan if you are still in warranty and you should get a new transmission with no problem. Unfortunately for me, I was literally 18 miles (not 18-thousand, not 18-hundred...18 MILES!) out of warranty so I didn't get a new one. Good luck!