8-10LBS on Side Mount?

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You guys think it'd be ok to run 8-10lbs on a SR side mount? Keep in mind this will be on a stock KAE with a T3/T04E.


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you will be fine. daneil240 is running that much boost with a sidemount. the t3/t04e will be plenty efficent at the level

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At what point would upgrade to a front mount, 12+?

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personally i would just use a front mount to begin with. its jsut going to cost you extra money and more work. do it right the first time so, hopefully, there isnt a second time.

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It may sound weird but I kind of don't want a front mount. I mean I won't push anything above 12lbs for a LONG time.

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im using a stock r33 smic running 8-9psi and it does fine. i figured if it is on the r33 then it would be ok on my kat. but im not going to be running over 10psi so it works fine for me.

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after driving around a while or racing a bit my intercooler pipes are kinda warm. my front mount is like 24x12x2.5. the air warms up quite a bit, this is at 12.5psi

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Small intercoolers are fine for short bursts of boost with long periods of running no boost. Typical Street driving and perhaps drag racing can fit this profile. But when you are boosting more often, a small intercooler will have a hard time dispersing heat as fast as it absorbs it. This means at some point, you will experience heat soak. A larger intercooler is basically able to act as a larger heatsink, and also has an advantage that it also has a larger frontal area and more overall surface area at the heat exchane portion. This is ideal for extensive boosting(typical of road races). Keep in mind most stock intercoolers are notorious for heatsoak at race tracks.

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Ok, so which way should I go about doing the front mount? I was going to put it directly in front of my radiator and have the endtanks go around the radiator for a straight shot toward the intake and turbo. Any reason to not do this? Or should I go with the more traditional setup with the pipes going around the side and up to the intake and turbo?

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only problem with your idea is that it will be harder to fit. you would have to move the radiator, fan shroud, and the a/c condensor is right there but you can sit the intercooler behind it like you plan. this would be a great setup tho with better throttle response

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I already took out all the ac stuff and have electric fan. I'd like to put it where the ac condensor was, so I don't have to move the radiator back because I like the sight of all the open space. Another idea I was thinking, it to buy a smaller radiator (like Griffin or something) and have the pipes go around that radiator so I wouldn't have to cut anything out where the headlights are.

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I would definately have some sort of knock detection on a KA-T running a SMIC, it will work fine like C-Kwik states, but will heatsoak fast. It's bad enough on an SR w/ 7psi.

Another thing to consider would be the flow aspect. There is a large difference in flow between a FMIC and SMIC, on a T25G it is evident, I can only imagine how it would effect a T04E.

Save up, do it properly. The cost difference between the FMIC and SMIC setups are relatively minimal when you have nothing to start out with, like a KA-T.

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Front mount it is. Just have to add another $300 or so for a different radiator for this to work properly.

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or just make up some bracketts to move the radiator back some

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Or look at Dave Coleman's Project Silvia in SCC Magazine. If you do a search on their site, it may have a copy of the article there. It may give you some ideas.

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Yeah I've seen that. It's between doing it that way, or going with the smaller radiator length wise. I took some measurements and if I chop 3.5" on either side of my radiator (this being for the endtanks and 2.5-3" outlets), I get a radiator about 21-22" in length. Being that the stock radiator is 27-1/4", I'm not sure how the water temp will react even if I put aftermarket radiator in it, like a 3-row Griffin or the like.


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