6MT G Coupe vs. BMW 135

[AddictionG35]

Opinions please... What: 03 6MT G Coupe (Stock) vs. BMW 135 (Stock)Where: Nurburgring open track day

And the winner is?

I realize that the 135 has more HP than the 03 Coupe, but I've seen many races where HP didn't always equate to a win.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

I would have to say the BMW 135... Faster motor and less weight! It also depends on if it is an autotragic!

DJ

[AddictionG35]

Yeah, I pretty much agree as well, just curious though. lol I just don't know much about the new 135's and was curious considering I raced and beat a 330ci back when I had my old G down in Augusta, GA last year.

[Jacko3]

Exactly! Though, HP helps win races. I once went at it in my secret track with a Dodge Charger SRT-8. Boy, the SRT-8 engine sound is something to hear under WOT--unbeleivably beautiful--totally muffled my Stillen exhaust note. It sounded like the raw engine of a DC-9 taking off.

In a blink of an eye , the car was two car lengths ahead of me on the straight way--the SRT-8 is a monster. By the time we got to the curves, I began to gain and eventually passed him. This was just the first curve. But each time the road turned straight, here he was with the power and might of the SRT-8--I was always scared of the straight ways, becasue I knew if it was slightly longer in lenght, he would catch up. But, as usual, the road became extra curvy and so I continued to extend my lead until the very end of the secret track. I didn't have the horsepower but I had the handling. You can't ignore handling on a road course, and you can't ignore very good brakes as well, especially when you shift weight around.

I would rather take a detuned car, perhaps, 20 horses less on a road course, and have exceptional handling and response. I can't even begin to explain this phenomenon, as it sounds counterintuitive. But if you have at least one really long straight way on that road coarse, the situation may turn out differently.

The GC is not a drag car, even with superchargers or turbos--don't be surprised or angered if you get spanked on a drag strip with all the power adders on a G-35. G-35 is a car designed for road courses. The 135 is smaller and nimbler and slightly more powerful than an 03 and 04 G. However, with a modified 05 - 07 GC, I am not sure how much advantage 135 would really have.

I would dare to say that a good BMW driver might beat a G driver. But a determined G driver might beat the 135 ultimately, partly on the basis of the mechanical endurance and reliability the G uniquely has, especially on a long road race. I don't know how quickly the 135 gets tired after severe flogging, but I do know the GC never gets tired. Performance may drop a little with lots of heat being absorbed, but it never gets tired or show signs of giving up---this is one unusual and interesting thing about the G-35 Coupe.

These are just based on my experience on my secret track. It could be different elsewhere and different based on the driver.

[Sentientbydesign]

If you read the first half of Jacko's post it's great...

I'm not a huge fan of the 1st gen coupes. I'd probably test drive the 135, especially since I have such a bad taste in my mouth for BMW.

[Focusedintntions]

Sorry to say but on a track that 135 will eat our g35 coupes for lunch.......

perfomance wise is only a tenth or 2 behind the new m3 in almost every catagory.....it's actually faster 40-80....just doesn't have the top speed of the m3. Handling wise it's a fire cracker. The car was designed as a throw back to the original 3 series that were so much fun to drive since the new ones have become so porky. A new 3 series is bigger than an old school 5 or 8 series.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

Thats what I was thinking.. But yea i still hate BMW's and their owners

DJ

[Kendahl]

... i still hate BMW's and their owners

The problem is there are too many BMW owners and not enough BMW drivers.

[Kendahl]

... i still hate BMW's and their owners

The problem is there are too many BMW owners and not enough BMW drivers. Most of the cars are poorly driven status symbols.

Last summer, I wanted to test drive a new 328i and/or a used 330, both with manual transmissions. The local dealer had no new cars with manuals and only two used models. One of the latter wouldn't start because they had let the battery go down. The other was a 325xi. It wasn't bad, but nowhere near a 330Ci coupe.

If I were shopping today, I would look at a 2WD 328i coupe. However, to get a test drive, I would have to travel to a major city like Chicago. (If I liked it, I would still have to think about the %#&$ run-flat tires.)

[tollboothwilley]

The 135 hands down would be a 2003 stock G35 coupe.

Great handling, great power, great car.

I love the G, but the 135 would beat the 2003 coupe stock for stock rather badly IMO.

[Minmey15]

Opinions please... What: 03 6MT G Coupe (Stock) vs. BMW 135 (Stock)Where: Nurburgring open track day

And the winner is?

I realize that the 135 has more HP than the 03 Coupe, but I've seen many races where HP didn't always equate to a win.

If drivers' skills are about the same, my money is going to BMW. At least I could drive BMW faster than I could drive my G.

I have been Nissan fan for the longest time,(since S130 time) and not a huge fan of BMW, but 3 series do handle quite nice. I once drove M3 CSL in Japan, and it was one of the best handling car I have ever driven.

Jacko, if you drive M3, you may like it ALOT!!!

[MagicM]

i never been in the 1 series but have been in a new 3 series, and the handling is superior and feels tighter than the g35s I've been in. less weight, superior handling, power, if the 1 series is anything like the 3 my money's on the BMW. I'm not a Big Bmw fan but the new 1 series look really cute XD, not bad looking car.

[Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT]

But I would still rather have a G than a freaking BMW Crap!

I hate the bimmers and will never own one! Their drivers think they have the best cars on the road.. But that is a BMW owner thing!

DJ

[etschell]

seriously the 135 is faster and lighter than the 335 so yea, it would spank a any g coupe, 37 included (non modified).

i don't really hate bmw drivers/owners, they pay for what they sow in maintenance @ the dealership.

[Jacko3]

Minmey15:

I would generally agree. The consensus on this forum on the BMW 3 series handling, is without question. And so, I have to accept the consensus.