5zigens didnt really impress me

[domesticcarssuck]

hey guys, just saw the 5zigens FN01RC 17x9's on my friends s13 and they didnt really impress me like i thought they would, not just the look cuz they still look nice but width didnt really look that wide and hes runnnig 255-45-17 in the rear so ive decided that i want to get the Gram Lights 57 Pro's 17x10 though, so my ? is which offset would i need to get and how far will they stick out, im pretty sure im going to have to get wider fenders or fender flares or what not and also im running the s14 se hubs in the rear and ive got the 5 lug hub in the front from signal auto so yes iam running the 5 lug conversion, thanks again guys, anything will help.

[574-240sx]

They are decent for the price. They look ok for how much they are and have decent sizes and widths. If I had the money I would sport some work Meisters.

[BomexS13]

i think 17x10 +12 is ok and wont stick out, might require fender pulling since im not sure what tires you're runnning.

[Nismo_Freak]

i think 17x10 +12 is ok and wont stick out, might require fender pulling since im not sure what tires you're runnning.

17x10 +12 will stick out and look stupid on a stock fender.

If you want absolute REAL flushness then 17x10 +35 is your ticket.

[domesticcarssuck]

whether its a +12 or +35 and sounds like ill have to roll the fenders anyways what size of tire would be good for that size of wheel???

[Nismo_Freak]

275/40/17

[hannibal]

17x9 isnt big enough?!? How much power you making?? Its not all about looks.

The +12 will stick out almost an inch more than +35, so there is a difference.

I personally wont go over 17x9 all around. 17x8 seems more reasonable for me. And if I ever have money to blow on wheels, Work Meister S2R would be my choice...

[domesticcarssuck]

you know, i never really thought about how much power im going to have, it was mainly for the look thing but i totally forgot to figure in the power. Right now i have the crappy KA24DE but i want to swap in the SR20DET even though most of my friends say they suck and that i should turbo the KA but i guess 17x9 wouldnt be that bad. I wouldnt of gotten 170x10 all the way around though, 17x8 in the front, i guess i forgot to mention the fronts also but either how if i did get 17x9's in the rear what size of tire should i get and also if i did just act a fool and the 17x10's in the rear how much HP would i be needing to move them around??? Its a daily driver but i i drag on the weekends and drift when i can.

PS- HP mods wont matter whether you say for a KA or SR

[hannibal]

17x8 front with 17x10 rear is too big of a stagger. I think 17x8 F / 17x9 R or 17x9 F / 17x10 R is a better stagger.

There is no magic power to wheel size number. But bigger wheels weigh more adn wider tires give more lateral grip. It would be much harder to drift on 17x10 wheels and 275/40 tires with your stock KA. THese guys know more about wheels/tires than me, maybe they can give you a better power/wheel size recommendation.

Guys making 400whp need bigger wheels cause they would just spin the stock 6.5" wide wheels from 1st to 5th gear.

Also, from a guy who's never swapped or modded a motor, I suggest you stick with the KA and turbo it. Its in your car, and you can find spares/replacements for cheap. Leave the SR to the more experienced guys. Hell, if your friends want to swap, take their old KA.

Oh yeah, I havent seen you around before. Welcome to NICO!!

[domesticcarssuck]

thanks for the info IWannas15 and yeah i barely started coming on here and everyone has been very helpul. Right now im thinking bout turboing the KA because it would probably be the fastest way to go and im tired of seeing all these hondas in town who have turbo's its like every honda gets a turbo kit when the get the value meals at mcdonalds lol but anyways i think im going to get 17x9's in the rear an17x8's in the front. Seeing how i want to go turbo so bad now i think im going to go with the 5zigens. so what offsets would i need with z32 calipers in the front. like stated above i do have the 5 lug conversion. thanks again man.

[hannibal]

Most of the experts here recommend 17x8 +25 front and 17x9 +35 rear. Dont quote me on that, but if you read through a few threads, this seems to be the most recommend offsets for those sizes.

[BaconLuver]

Most of the experts here recommend 17x8 +25 front and 17x9 +35 rear. Dont quote me on that, but if you read through a few threads, this seems to be the most recommend offsets for those sizes.

with those sizes, what do those experts recommend in regards to tires sizes, both front and rear?

I have a set of front 17x7.5 +32 and rear 17x8.5 +38 and really don't know what tire sizes to put on there. Don't want that stretcho look either...something that'll be close to the factory specs so my speedo won't be all outta whack. Thanks!

[turtl631]

225/45/17 and 245/40/17 would be nice for those 7.5/8.5 wheels. Very close to fitting perfect, not bulging or stretched. 235/45/17 and 255/40/17 are good sizes for the 8/9 stagger. You can go + or - 10 mm in section width on those without getting too bulged or stretched too. 265s can be hard to find though.

[BaconLuver]

turtl631 - that's what I figured would be the ideal size and also according to the tire/wheel calculator in the FAQ. Thanks for the confirmation! tirerack, here I come!

[Nismo_Freak]

17x8 front with 17x10 rear is too big of a stagger. I think 17x8 F / 17x9 R or 17x9 F / 17x10 R is a better stagger.

Stagger determines mainly tire sizing, as wheels can carry various sizes.

Main things to consider for wheels are:

- Fitment- Weight- Tire Range- Scrub Radius / Track Modifications

Typically you want the wheel to sit inboard (higher positive offset) to avoid issues with scrub radius. Also, it should be a point to address the track width modification by going with two un-symmetrical sizings. This affects understeer and oversteer because ultimately track affects dynamic weight loading.

17x8 +2517x9 +35

235/40/17 Falken Azenis RT-615255/40/17 Falken Azenis RT-615

Excellent setup in my opinion.

There is no magic power to wheel size number. But bigger wheels weigh more adn wider tires give more lateral grip. It would be much harder to drift on 17x10 wheels and 275/40 tires with your stock KA. THese guys know more about wheels/tires than me, maybe they can give you a better power/wheel size recommendation.

Larger tires have the ability to afford greater levels of grip. Meaning there is a diminishing return on tire size vs. tire grip. The lighter the car, the less aerodynamic downforce the smaller the tire you need to run, mainly because you can't adequately load the tire with enough effective weight to benefit from it's additional load capacity.

The car will be quicker in both handling and acceleration with a properly sized tire.

Two things that wider tires / wheels do to promote grip.

Increased Inertia - Requires more power to spin the wheel assembly, less power is transmitted to the ground.Increased Diameter - Affects the final gearing of the drivetrain, lessening acceleration.

Now, wider tires CAN be beneficial for a track car for a set of reasons that street cars don't encounter.

[Exar-Kun]

Alan,

I'm glad you got to this thread before I did....

:p

Oh I left a message concerning the 17x9 +30 CE28's for you...I should have a call back monday.

-Chet

[Nismo_Freak]

Alan,

I'm glad you got to this thread before I did....

:p

Oh I left a message concerning the 17x9 +30 CE28's for you...I should have a call back monday.

-Chet

17x8.5

17x9 is a 5-lug size.

[turtl631]

hm, I'm jealous already. CE28s own, so damn light. For the new coupe?

[BryanGrigsby]

domesticcarssuck, I just ordered the fn01r-c in a staggered set. 17x8 25 offset in the front/ 17x9 35 rear. I figure if the rears dont stick out far enough I could always put spacers on them if I really wanted but if you go with a lower offset, and they stick out too far, you cant really go back you know. I contacted 5zigen usa and this was the setup they recommmended. This should also provide plenty of room for any brake conversion for front and back as well as any kind of coilover setup. The tires I ordered were 225/45 17 for the front and 255/40 17 for the rear. The rears will be slightly taller(probably not even noticable) but will have a wider tread than the 245's.

[SmithSR]

^^not necessarily, and wider tread guarantees nothing except wider tread, and even then every tire maker has a different yardstick, so a wider tire might not even be a wider tread!

[sixxdeuce]

This thread was recently started to help people that are buying new wheels: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showth...guide

It has full specs and pics of each setup. I recommend you take a look at it, because many of the sizes and offsets people just told you on here will look like total crap. Also, you should really roll the fenders, maybe even pull them, wheels will never be quite flush untill you atleast roll. But some people like sunk in wheels, so if you dont mind that look its less work to go with high offsets.