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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... s-database

Sigh ...

Yeah, not all are perfectly obvious as lies (you have to squint hard). But most are ...

We have elected a petulant child liar as POTUS. :rolleyes:

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Lying is part and parcel of being a politician, and like it or not they ALL do it. Remember that whopper of a lie Slick Willie told? "I want you to listen to me. I’m going to say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." Bill Clinton, January 26th, 1998.

As the old joke goes, How do you know a politician is lying? Their lips are moving.

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A veteran beltway journalist, author and award-winning professor said very little has changed at the Washington Post since he worked as a Beltway journalist covering politics in Prince George’s, Maryland. Sadly, he said, the Washington Post’s recent practices are not the exception but the rule at the newspaper.

“They just make news up, fabricate whatever news was required at the time, especially when they were scooped or embarrassed by other publications,” said Gregg Morris. “Sometimes they did it because they believed they were entitled. Nothing has changed.”

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Rogue One wrote:Lying is part and parcel of being a politician, and like it or not they ALL do it.
False equivalency.
Trump statistically lies more.
Also his lies are easily provable.
He's the kid with chocolate on his face claiming that the dog ate the cookies.
Rogue One wrote:To some The Washington Post has now become synonymous with “Deep State Narrative”.
Please tell me who are these people?

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"Some" most likely are the same "some" that the President pulls out of his hat to attempt to justify his statements. They most likely don't exist or hold no credibility. The people at Westboro Baptist, members of the Aryan Brotherhood and the advanced-stage Alzheimer's patients at a local care facility all qualify as "some people".
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RCA wrote:
Rogue One wrote:Lying is part and parcel of being a politician, and like it or not they ALL do it.
False equivalency.
Trump statistically lies more.
Also his lies are easily provable.
He's the kid with chocolate on his face claiming that the dog ate the cookies.
Oh spare me. The last Liar-In-Chief may or may not have lied as frequently, but his were no less egregious. Here's a news flash: nobody cares.

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News flash: a lot of us care about our representatives having credibility. The current administration has almost none to many of us.

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Rogue One wrote:Oh spare me. The last Liar-In-Chief may or may not have lied as frequently, but his were no less egregious. Here's a news flash: nobody cares.
I don't disagree that politicians tell half truths and play word games but to equate Trump's lying to any other politician is just false. This isn't up for debate, Trump lies constantly.

As for who cares... you should, we should, everyone should.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/

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I don't disagree that politicians tell half truths and play word games but to equate Trump's lying to any other politician is just false. This isn't up for debate, Trump lies constantly.

As for who cares... you should, we should, everyone should.
In a perfect world, yes, but this is reality folks. The lying may matter to the Anti-Trumper's, but given the fact they aren't who put him in office, my opinion is still valid. Whether you like it or not, it's not relevant to the people that put him in office.

Bloomberg: '55 percent chance' Trump will win reelection http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... reelection

Salon - Trump will likely win reelection in 2020 http://www.salon.com/2017/05/17/trump-w ... 0_partner/

HuffPost - Trump Will Likely Win Re-election In 2020 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru ... d573dac1f3

Boston Globe - Trump’s reelection chances are good https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/201 ... story.html

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while it's true that all politicians lie, if you look at fact checking organizations, you'll find Mr. Trump's percentage of lies compared to truth is significantly higher any all of the other candidates that ran for President. It's "unpresidented". :) It cannot be dismissed as fake news or discounted, Heck, he sometimes contradicts himself in the same interview. that said, it's rather disheartening how gullible American voters have become in recent years when it comes political rhetoric, and how indifferent we've become as a country when the politician they support is caught openly lying. Unfortunately, until the current President's policies negatively impact American wallets, I also don't see a sudden, major shift either.

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From the Left leaning Snopes.com

The Lies of Donald Trump’s Critics, and How They Shape His Many Personas
An in-depth analysis of the false allegations and misleading claims made against the 45th President since his inauguration.
http://www.snopes.com/2017/07/12/trump-lies/
This article is intended as a neutral, reliable analysis of the lies, false allegations and misleading claims made about and against Donald Trump since his inauguration in January 2017. We’ve attempted to strip away the hyperbole, name-calling and generalizations, and examine the patterns and trends at work: what characterizes these lies and exaggerations, the effect they have, what might explain them.


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