500+hp build opinions

[fabios s13.5]

i have a sohc ka24e just want to get some opinions and also when i looked through diff forums nobody says were and how much things are haha so hope this helps others in their search. btw these engines have hit 945hp range wow didnt know they could b4.so i am doing a rebuil with turbo addition

awep.comrod bearings/mainfull gasket settiming kit oil pumpwater pump $ 327.85+8.95ship

amsperformance.compistonsmain/head studs $720+?ship

turbochargers.comeagle rods $318.75+?ship

frsport.comvalve springs and retainer kit $359.95+?ship

estimated engine rebuild $2100.00

Turbo build

i have t3/t4 60greddy RStial 38mmcxracing.com intercooler and piping $300jimwolftechnology.com ECU $595+?shipO&J performance750cc inj $400 setfuel pump $239.99stage 2 cam (optional) $174.99

[hpmachine]

500+ HP huh? you're gonna need a lot more than what's on your list. Check out KA-T.org.

[nightsleek240coupe]

the t3/t4 is just not going to cut it. look into a gt30/35/40 or a big holset.

[fabios s13.5]

would a 60-1 work???

[hpmachine]

Dude check out this guys ride over at ka-t. He's making about 500hp at the crank. It's a DOHC motor but you'll get the idea. It takes a decent investment to make 500hp.http://ka-t.org/carl_d.php

[24j0hn]

youll need to bore deck and hone the cylinders about .20"... get low compression forged pistons and rods... gt28 turbo or higher... 570cc or higher injectors... upgraded valves and springs and cam to be safe...

the rest is in the tuning!

[hpmachine]

500+whp T28 won't even get you half way there. look at these build specs... this put down over 500whp but again it was DOHC...

?¡Precision PT61 .68 ar turbine?¡Revhard manifold?¡Nsport downpipe?¡GP Sports 3" exhaust?¡Nposrt intercooler and piping?¡Tial 38mm wastegate1bar spring?¡TurboXS RFL bov?¡9:1 Ross forged pistons, Pauter rods, ARP head and main studs, 3 angle valve job, Cometic headgasket, S13 cams?¡Clutchmaster's stage 5 clutch and Fidanza flywheel?¡Joe P manual boost controller?¡Groundzero engine and transmission mounts?¡JWT ECU programmed for MSD 72lb injectors and Z32 mafs?¡JGY top feed fuel rail w/ 75# injectors?¡B&M mechanical fuel pressure gauge?¡ThermoTec turbine blanket and header wrap?¡Autometer mechanical fuel pressure gauge?¡Taylor spark plug wires and NGK BKR7E-11 plugs?¡MSD 7al2 ignition?¡Apex-I SAFC?¡PLX devices M300 wideband?¡MSD knock alert meter?¡MDM Techtom?¡B&M Short Shifter?¡Autometer 52mm Phantom Gauges (Boost, EGT)

[AZ89two4Tsx]

Why the hell would you want a 500+ HP four cylinder?

[xX RB Xx]

youll need to bore deck and hone the cylinders about .20"... get low compression forged pistons and rods... gt28 turbo or higher... 570cc or higher injectors... upgraded valves and springs and cam to be safe...

your retarded

[24j0hn]

your retarded

**** ** ** ****** **** *** stupid ** **** ****!!!

[xX RB Xx]

**** ** ** ****** **** *** stupid ** **** ****!!!

yeah i can just press keys on the keyboard but i wont.

[gnvarnadore]

500+whp T28 won't even get you half way there. look at these build specs... this put down over 500whp but again it was DOHC...

?¡Precision PT61 .68 ar turbine?¡Revhard manifold?¡Nsport downpipe?¡GP Sports 3" exhaust?¡Nposrt intercooler and piping?¡Tial 38mm wastegate1bar spring?¡TurboXS RFL bov?¡9:1 Ross forged pistons, Pauter rods, ARP head and main studs, 3 angle valve job, Cometic headgasket, S13 cams?¡Clutchmaster's stage 5 clutch and Fidanza flywheel?¡Joe P manual boost controller?¡Groundzero engine and transmission mounts?¡JWT ECU programmed for MSD 72lb injectors and Z32 mafs?¡JGY top feed fuel rail w/ 75# injectors?¡B&M mechanical fuel pressure gauge?¡ThermoTec turbine blanket and header wrap?¡Autometer mechanical fuel pressure gauge?¡Taylor spark plug wires and NGK BKR7E-11 plugs?¡MSD 7al2 ignition?¡Apex-I SAFC?¡PLX devices M300 wideband?¡MSD knock alert meter?¡MDM Techtom?¡B&M Short Shifter?¡Autometer 52mm Phantom Gauges (Boost, EGT)

ummm why didnt you edit and remove stuff that doesnt add power????

[xX RB Xx]

ummm why didnt you edit and remove stuff that doesnt add power????

Why?

Your not going to be able to run 500+hp on the stock clutch and flywheels, or the the stock ignition system.

If you cannot tell, the OP doesnt understand what it takes to make a 500hp Car.

Thats a pretty good list of stuff that your going to need.

[StylesCD]

the t3/t4 is just not going to cut it. look into a gt30/35/40 or a big holset.

oh FFS get a holset, GT is for low end s***

[hpmachine]

Really? I'd say everything there is pretty important. If not related directly to making power, a lot of those things are a necessary part of the complete setup. The point is, there is a lot that goes in to making 500hp SAFELY. It's not just about throwing on a big blower and tuning it.

[xX RB Xx]

Really? I'd say everything there is pretty important. If not related directly to making power, a lot of those things are a necessary part of the complete setup. The point is, there is a lot that goes in to making 500hp SAFELY. It's not just about throwing on a big blower and tuning it.

that is exactly what i was going to say

[Kalypso]

too much money for a 4 cylinder.

get a v8 lq motor, and with a single turbo and low boost you can easily clear 500.

I genuinely believe that's the smarter route... and its safer.

LQ's are a lot cheaper then 2100$ of engine work

[kouki munster]

So, your going to go from the stock single slammer power levels, and go straight to 500 hp. Hmmmm....... am I the only one seeing a massive fiery crash in this guy's future?

[hpmachine]

So, your going to go from the stock single slammer power levels, and go straight to 500 hp. Hmmmm....... am I the only one seeing a massive fiery crash in this guy's future?

I don't know why people say this kind of stuff either. I jumped from a stock Jetta in to a 380hp S13 and never had a problem. Just use your head and take time to adapt. But I suppose maybe the OP is really stupid. LOL

[hbpignosePA]

you got big dreams

[StylesCD]

you got big dreams

he can reach his dream on pump gas. (93 octane)http://www.ka-t.org/forums/vie...art=0h ... hp?t=43858

[hbpignosePA]

and its way overkill for a street car

nuff said

[amakadius]

i have a sohc ka24e just want to get some opinions and also when i looked through diff forums nobody says were and how much things are haha so hope this helps others in their search. btw these engines have hit 945hp range wow didnt know they could b4.so i am doing a rebuil with turbo addition

awep.comrod bearings/mainfull gasket settiming kit oil pumpwater pump $ 327.85+8.95ship

amsperformance.compistonsmain/head studs $720+?ship

turbochargers.comeagle rods $318.75+?ship

frsport.comvalve springs and retainer kit $359.95+?ship

estimated engine rebuild $2100.00

Turbo build

i have t3/t4 60greddy RStial 38mmcxracing.com intercooler and piping $300jimwolftechnology.com ECU $595+?shipO&J performance750cc inj $400 setfuel pump $239.99stage 2 cam (optional) $174.99

step into the rb world or the LS mods instead. less to worry about and a more durable platform that was meant for speed instead of a truck

[fabios s13.5]

fyi this will not be a street car and i know i need a better trany my?s are about the engine build itself

[Kaleo55]

You can maybe make 500+hp, on KAe, but the question would be as others have asked, why? the second question is why, again do you need 500hp. Are you gonna do autocross, time attacks, drifting? what do you need that kind of hp for? Or do you just want to say you make 500 cause it'll be cool? If your going to track this thing and do time attacks, others have already told what you're going to need, and it's not just getting to 500hp from your motor. You better think about a KAde to start with... and a batch of machine work to the crank, head and block, so I hope you have good machinist that knows how to build high HP motors...

[C3Sierra_S2000]

It really would be cheaper if you did an LS swap and would probably be much more reliable. Any small displacement 4 cylinder with high boost to reach those hp levels will be on the edge and will not be nearly as reliable as a mildly modified stock motor designed to go 100K miles or more. With just a cam swap, valve springs, and a tune my L92 makes 530hp.

Now on to what others have said here. I built my car to just be a fun street car that was way over the top on power. It really has wayyy too much power for daily use. Don't get me wrong it could easily be a daily driver. Heck it even has A/C but at those power levels you get to speed really quickly. You also can loose traction at the blip of the throttle. If you are going to be drifting you really don't need that much power. A stock LS motor is ample to get the tires boiling.

I don't know what you are planning on using the car for and I know a lot of people here don't like the V8 swaps but in the long run if you really want 500hp your money will be better spent on doing the LS swap. The other thing to consider is torque. There is no turbo 4 out there that is going to produce the big low end torque numbers of the V8 and torque is what gets ya moving.

[liquid_cool]

dont mind the bashing to much man..but some of these folks have hit the nail on the head...yes you can get 500whp out of your single slammer...but it will cost you big bucks!...i say..if thats what ya want..then go for it!..but i would recomend a de swapp ..as the duel cams will help ya reach that 500+ hp your lookin for ...to go beyond 500hp in a 4 banger..you are going to need to hold it all together and go high boost!..here is what i sugest.

#1.) Have a good machinist re-drill out your head stud holes for 11mm headstuds..and the head to match.

#2.) have your machinist install metal "O" ringes around each cylinder...and have him mach a reciever groove for each "O" ring on the head allso..

#3) Run a full copper head gasket with a sealer..like "Indian head Brand sealer"..seals any gasket.

#4) have your machinist balance your aftermarket rods and pistons with the crank..after he adjust the crank a bit...this will let ya rev higher..

#5) run some stage 3 cams..like BC's 272's..and clearence the head to let them rotate.

#6) clearence the valves and install/do a 3 to 5 cut valve job..with replacement of the guides and seals.

#7) duel springs and retainers with steel seats are a must..

#8) angle drilled and threaded main stud additions..makes the 2 bolt style girdle into a 4 bolt style for added reliability...

#9) Nismo Racing Oil pressure spring set and pump.10) dont forget those aftermarket pistons and rods..they will be costly.

those are the basic things to get you started...they are all costly..the full metal Headgasket insted of the multi-layer will allow you to run higher boost levels upto 2000 hp if the block can handle it..there is allways a week link...rods..pistons bearings..crank...but if you balance the build corectly and build it to handle way more than what you really need..then it should be reliable..its not uncommon for extreem builders to take a ka24de and make 650whp with this type of set up..obviously there is more to it..and lots of tuning..but it can be done...why should it be done?...imo..becouse others think it cant be..thats why i build off style motors...for the challenge...2 years ago..the ka was a junk motor no one wanted...now they look for em as a common swapp, becouse tuners started to mess with them and there potential...what ever you choose to do..i wish you luck..and just maybe..you will find a cheep way of makin a ka 500whp that others may copy here on the forums.good luck.