5 lug opinions, ive searched, help me

[tramp_drift240]

im thinking about doing 5 lug swap on my s13 coupe.

its gonna be out of commission until spring, im thinking, so i might as well swap to five lug and order the Works im wanting in 5 than just getting 4 lug versions. itll give me more options later on down the road, and itll be a lot easier to find brake upgrades.

but here's my question:

im currently thinking about just getting the Ichiba coversion hubs. meaning i can just bolt them on (front and back) onto my existing spindle assemblies.

if i do that, what rotors would i have to get to make them work with my stock calipers? s14 SE rotors?

and if i go Ichiba, what would i do about aftermarket LSD's? are there any OEM alternatives? would i have to go ahead and swap my whole differential/axle/hub assemblies to get a better LSD option?

should i go ahead and do the 300zx/s14 5-lug/front uprights swap?

basically, i dont know what combinations would work for a 5 lug swap onto an s13, i need to know what is possible so i can figure out what im able to choose from.

someone please help, thisll be way better off in the long run.

[r3v_v3ng3]

but here's my question:

im currently thinking about just getting the Ichiba coversion hubs. meaning i can just bolt them on (front and back) onto my existing spindle assemblies.

if i do that, what rotors would i have to get to make them work with my stock calipers? s14 SE rotors?

and if i go Ichiba, what would i do about aftermarket LSD's? are there any OEM alternatives? would i have to go ahead and swap my whole differential/axle/hub assemblies to get a better LSD option?

should i go ahead and do the 300zx/s14 5-lug/front uprights swap?

basically, i dont know what combinations would work for a 5 lug swap onto an s13, i need to know what is possible so i can figure out what im able to choose from.

if your doing a 5 lug on your car, all you have to do is redrill your rotor to 5 lug or use maybe use the se rotor (not sure though).

as far as the rear for the lsd it shouldn't matter, but if your talking about vlsd then you may need a different axle. the q45 rearend will require you to use the q45 rear hub/appropriate axles/diff.

i think you mean the rear upright. its up to you but if you are then you might as well get the whole 300zx rear hub (make sure its from an N/A). the q45 also have this aluminum thing that you can use for a rear upright.

as far as the front i think your limited to aftermarket to bolt on and the s14 and i believe someone did a j30 require some other parts or mods. theres various 5 lug combo specially the rear (s14 se, 300zx n/a, q45, aftermarket) maybe others. you might find more if you search around.

hopefully that help

[aeros13]

honestly dude, i was in the same boat but as i did it was like this.

if you do the ichiba hubs, its painfree and a quick install.my front hubs are the ichiba but you have to take off the dust shield from the front to clear the rotor. the rear is actually a skyline r32 rear subframe.

i have r32 calipers with brembo cross drilled rotors front and back. the benifit of using the nissan caliper is that they bolt up to stock locations. no aftermarket brakets or redrillin required. and the brembo or if you use powerstop rotors fit on to the calipers with no hassel.

the rear came off an r32 skyline gts-t. and my diff is off the same skyline. the only difference is my axles, one is skyline and the other is 300zx. the 300 zx axles work great but one is too long.

the diff you use is your choice but i recommend gettin the jdm s13 one since it requires no mods to your car. most nissan diffs are 5 bolt and the usdm s13 and s14 are 6 bolt. 3 tabs wit 2 bolts per tab.

if you want i could send you pics of my set up and my boys set up. we have the same setup with the difference of me using all skyline and him using 300zx remanufacured parts and jdm s14 rear.

hopefully this help you out.
Modified by aeros13 at 3:02 AM 6/28/2008

[tramp_drift240]

for the front hub, i was meaning like. the whole spindle assembly from an s14, meaning id have to use the little sleeves to re-use my s13 coilovers since the bolts are different sizes.

so would i be able to use s14 SE rotors for the 5 lug after Ichiba, but still use my front and rear calipers that are stock on the car?

and for the differential thing, couldnt i just keep that stock/welded, and buy a kaaz or something that can just drop into the s13 pumpkin?

aeros13, if youve got pictures that you can send and explain more in depth, thatd be sweet.

im on the verge of getting 4 lug Works, or just upgrading to 5 lug so i can have the advantages later on, and getting 5 lug works instead.

[Clawhammer]

Honestly dude you're making it way more complicated then it needs to be.

Redrill your rotors for 5 lug, or do a brake upgrade at the same time like I did

I think s14 calipers are a little bit bigger so the rotors won't work on the S13 calipers...I think.

If you get the ichibas for the rear they will bolt right in, you don't have to worry about anything on the rear end. What you could do is buy a spare diff or just the pumpkin and swap the LSD into that and then you just have to unbolt your old one and put in your new spiffy one...probably the way I'd go about it.

[tramp_drift240]

so, i should go ichiba and just redrill my rotors for the time being?

yes, im making this way more complicated than it should be, thats how i am with all stuff involving my car. haha

ive got my subframe/pumpkin/axles/hubs off of my black coupe (see sig), and im getting my second coupe this evening. so ill probably just be putting all my stuff onto the coupe im about to get.

so ill have 2 pumpkins. im not swapping my rear end stuff in until i get new subframe bushings to install. then i can either weld my extra diff before install, or just have an extra one lying around until i get a kaaz or something.

alright, i think ill just go Ichiba and redrill the rotors for 5. arent there any 5 lug rotors that are the same size? both sets of rotors im gonna have are gonna be rusty and crap. perhaps ill just get them resurfaced..

[tramp_drift240]

could I use non-ABS 95-96 slotted rotors with my stock s13 brakes? reply - Sure. Just match 5 lug rotors to 5 lug hub, etc.

eh? so im thinking i can just order a set of OEM zenki s14 rotors and use my stock calipers. save the hassle of re-using old rotors and having to redrill them.

[Carl H]

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not hard.do NOT fit a q45 rearend/hubs/axles unless you are making a ****ton of power...with the 3.52 final drive it will take ages to accelerate on a stock ka.

[tramp_drift240]

my ka isnt stock.

but also, i already ruled out doing a whole rear end swap like that.

but hey, if front and rear hubs with s13 bearings works, someone go out to a junkyard and get me this stuff so i can do that. i can pay shipping if you get all that janx.

i dont have any junkyards near me, and if there are any hidden, theyll only have domestics. (wv isnt an import friendly place)

otherwise, im gonna go ichiba with new bearings already pressed in, and a set of zenki s14 rotors.

[aeros13]

if you want go to this link to see my set up or i can send you pics. sorry i didnt respond sooner, i was away on vacation and i jst got back today. if you do the ichiba hubs front and back, you could redrill you disc but im not sure if they will still maintain there strength. i took the safer road. my boy just got a stock pair of z32 disc and remanufactured z32 calipers for the front and s14 for the rear. and like i said before the z32 caliper bolts to the stock s13 caliper location. as for the diff, get another one to be on the safe side.

http://www.frsport.com/Ichiba-...l#tcs

http://www.frsport.com/FRSport....html

hope this gives you an idea of what you wanna do