4x4 300zx

[Z31toZ32]

Why don't we see more action on this topic on NICO? We've got plenty of people with a lot of power spinning their tires in third gear on the highway. But if you can't connect all that power at somewhat legal speeds, what's the point? I can't imagine how awesome a 600whp z would be with four wheel drive. I have heard it mentioned on here that it has been done before, but why the lack of interest or threads on the subject matter?

[nd_aussie]

u mean awd?

[canadian booster]

AWD would be amazing! I can't even imagine the craziness involved though in implimenting it

[Chattzx]

I have seen 1 AWD Z32 before, but I'm not sure the guy completed the conversion. I would say its defineltely not worth the trouble as it is very time consuming.

[canadian booster]

personally i would perfer a 4x4 z32 as a second ride. then i could have my Fairlady for summer, and a 4x4 300zx NA for winter with a jacked suspension and big tires fuggin awesome!!
do i even remotely know how to do something like that? no. i wish i did tho, not to mention the $ to pull it off *lol*

[canadian booster]

come on, you can't tell me this wouldn't be fun to drive..



i photoshopped it together, looks awesome!!

i bet shannonferguson2000 could do it..

[Z31toZ32]

maybe i should have clarified. i was referencing all wheel drive.

[Oh Em Zee]

Bahaha that picture was epic.

AWD z32's have been discussed and i think there has been a successful conversion in the past.
but it was done with an rb26dett engine \ transmission.
there are alot of clearance issues with the rb26dett in a z32. hood height, engine length of a straight 6 vs the v6 design.
also, 300zx is already so similar to skyline in parts, going awd makes the z32 practically a skyline.
It's been said, if you want an AWD Nissan, just get a skyline.
added wait to an already tank car..
balance of the car would be so off. launches would improve, but i dont think handling will improve with so much extra weight up front.
just to contribute some more to the concept, there was talk and interest of an sr20 awd drivetrain conversion.

Of course you can always purchase a copy of Forza Motorsports 3 for the xbox 360 and enjoy an awd z32

[simmode1]

Sorry, I <3 RWD. Trying to reinvent the wheel isn't something I'm interested in, honestly. I'd rather dial in my chassis/suspension/drivetrain/wheels/tires to make me hook up better than drive most AWD cars. If I gotta dial power back to achieve balance and be faster in the end, so be it.

I don't wanna deal with dialing out AWD's inherant understeering. If I wanted an AWD car, I'd just buy one to start out with. Rather than trying to reverse engineer an already great car, I'd rather just spend my money of HPDE classes.

[Initial_Z]

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2763036

[bmxer300zx]

the only thing i have ever seen is this and there isnt even an end video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhc0OkiV ... re=related

[ffrpwner]

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2763036

This is so much win!!!!

I would register it as a wrx and use the vin from the wrx so that if some one gets your tags and calls them in the cops will look for a wrx haha.....sexy hatch though looks more appeling knowing its not some vtech b**** under the hood haha

[car nut]

why the lack of interest or threads on the subject matter?

The fact that changing a car from RWD to AWD is extremely difficult and expensive as f*** probably has something to do with it.

[Chattzx]

^exactly. It would be borderline retarded to even attempt it.

[Oh Em Zee]

Retarded people do cool things though!

[Initial_Z]

I have heard it mentioned on here that it has been done before, but why the lack of interest or threads on the subject matter?

We are not here againts custom built, maybe some of us do ... But that's not the point. Z32 is not the type of car that you inherited from your mommy and have to stick with it and mod it. I own the damn car by choice, and I choose RWD for a reason. If I want AWD sport car, there're plenty of other options.

[simmode1]

^^^Well said...

[Initial_Z]

Retarded people do cool things though!

They might be retarded, but I bet they got the best cracks on earth. I want whatever the stuff this guy was smoking.

http://www.preludeonline.com/f82/new-he ... de-238311/

[Oh Em Zee]

Here's some better pictures of that last one
http://inlinexracing.com/project.html
That's a sweet piece of engineering.. wonder how it handles.

[Initial_Z]

^ I wouldn't want to sit that close to a NOS powered ticking bomb

[Oh Em Zee]

yeah not without a thick plexiglass shield.. but have you seen the view from a Ford GT40? the supercharger pulley is literally inches from the back of your head! better not have long hair! (shielded from driver though) hahaha

Annoyingly best picture i could find

[Z31toZ32]

I own the damn car by choice, and I choose RWD for a reason. If I want AWD sport car, there're plenty of other options.

well gee whiz me too. i was just wondering why we haven't seen more talk or projects on it.

[300zx-r]

I would register it as a wrx and use the vin from the wrx so that if some one gets your tags and calls them in the cops will look for a wrx haha.....sexy hatch though looks more appeling knowing its not some vtech b**** under the hood haha

You shouldn't make fun of Honda VTEC engines, it is like one of the most reliable engines ever made?
I drive a lot on the track with the Honda Club, and i can promise you this. Many of those VTEC cars go way faster around the track than we can manage, HP isn't everything.. Low weight and one awesome VTEC engine, you got the ultimate Track car.

I know what i'm talking about when it comes to Honda. Tho a lot of then are stupid Ricers and makes a bad reputation for Honda users.. But in the Racing community Honda is way up there..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3uFXh33FhM

Here is a good movie that explains what i mean. )

[car nut]

I own the damn car by choice, and I choose RWD for a reason. If I want AWD sport car, there're plenty of other options.

well gee whiz me too. i was just wondering why we haven't seen more talk or projects on it.

Like I said before, because it's expensive, intensive and unrealistic. You literally need to re-engineer the entire drivetrain and suspension, which is pretty difficult when you're starting with something designed around an entirely different setup.

[Z31toZ32]

^ expensive and intensive I don't buy. Some people on here have loads of cash and time vested. Cite gino's build (or anyone's for that matter), I doubt that was cheap. Intensive, how about 454zx's ludicrousness? That seems pretty intense. Unrealistic I can buy.

[car nut]

^ expensive and intensive I don't buy. Some people on here have loads of cash and time vested. Cite gino's build (or anyone's for that matter), I doubt that was cheap. Intensive, how about 454zx's ludicrousness? That seems pretty intense. Unrealistic I can buy.

First off, you started by saying that you don't buy that it would be expensive, but then you go on to say that since a very small amount of people can spend a ton of money on their car it doesn't matter. This implies that it would be expensive, which is most certainly would.

You then go on to say the same thing for intensive, plus you miss the point. Don't get me wrong, throwing a 7.5L V8 in a Z is a very intensive job (as most motor swaps are) BUT his setup is completely different then what you're talking about. His setup requires little electronic work (that motor is carbed), he's running an auto and he didn't need to completely re-engineer his front suspension to accommodate halfshafts and a differential. His car is a completely different beast. Intensive yes, but not nearly as intensive as what you're suggesting.

[simmode1]

You shouldn't make fun of Honda VTEC engines,

I drive/love RWD because I enjoy the feeling of it. I don't enjoy FWD, but I don't down Honda because their engineering is quite simply, genius, IMO.

[Z31toZ32]

maybe i did not type clear enough. i stated that by AWD 300ZX being expensive or intensive doesn't qualify as a barrier to why it hasn't been done before. I cited that plenty of people have dumped loads of cash into their cars and taken on intensive projects, and agreed with you on it that being flat out unreasonable is a valid reason it hasn't been done before.

[Initial_Z]

maybe i did not type clear enough. i stated that by it being expensive or intensive doesn't qualify as a barrier to why it hasn't been done before - as plenty of people have dumped loads of cash into their cars before and taken on intensive projects.

There;s alot of factors involved beside cost. It's not as simple as sticking the R32 GTR drive train underneed the Z32 and call it a day, eventhough suspension of Z32 is literally based of R32. First of all, It will mess up the weight distribution. Then it will change the way the chassis is reinforced. It's not a good idea from the engineer stand point. You will also have to change most, if not all the computer hardware to accomodate with the AWD sensors such as traction, balance, speed ... Not mentioning the whole another engine itself since the new transmission wont bolt on ... etc The list goes on ...

With all that said, given enough money and beers, you can have an AWD Z32 that is drivable. Here come th problems:

1/ It will be a kit car with Z32 shell and interior, no longer a Z32.

2/ Its no guaranteed that you will be able to benefit from the AWD effect in term of performance. Why ? Because you just messed up the chassis of the car ans I mentioned. Now It will be like what ? A 4-5000lbs of metal with super streched under body and uneven weight distribution ?

Of course most people dont think that far when you ask them about AWD conversion. But since you keep beggin the question, here was my full elaboration. Any more question ?

[Z31toZ32]

not really. now i see why people don't really discuss projects on it.