4.6l 4v cobra motor

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was just curious if anyone has put the 4.6l 4v cobra motor in an 89 240?


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because people need a reliable setup. Not something thats need fixed or repaired daily. j.k. idk most likely the 4.6 isn't an ideal power plant .

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Those modular V8 are VERY wide. I just saw one side by side to an LS1 on stands. I dont think it would work, unless you relocated the steering column to rack bar

Example a LS1 or SBC is similar to the 302

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OutToWinPAHC wrote:Those modular V8 are VERY wide. I just saw one side by side to an LS1 on stands. I dont think it would work, unless you relocated the steering column to rack bar
pushrods ftw

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powered by a ford...? no way! unless maybe by a 5.0 pushrod

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it will fit i believe by all the measurements i have taken at work. but then again those dont mean anything when it comes to actually going into a diff. car. but canton does make front sump oil pans for the 4.6 dohc. if you want to try it buy a long block out of a lincoln mark 8 as it has the same mount locations and is almost exactly the same and is alot cheaper than a cobra engine. of course i know that not one person will ever do this.maybe i should try? hmm.... they are very good engines though and can make good power and are reliable.
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Not without changing the steering. My block on my LS6 is 1 inch away from the column to rack link. That motor is HUGE

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its a waste of time, and would ruin the way the car handles. adding 200+ lbs to the car is a big no no unless ur drag racing the car. plus there are bolt in kits for the ls1.

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bball212000 wrote:it will fit i believe by all the measurements i have taken at work. but then again those dont mean anything when it comes to actually going into a diff. car. but canton does make front sump oil pans for the 4.6 dohc. if you want to try it buy a long block out of a lincoln mark 8 as it has the same mount locations and is almost exactly the same and is alot cheaper than a cobra engine. of course i know that not one person will ever do this.maybe i should try? hmm....
I sold both my mark viiis to buy my s13...weird. never thought i would see them on nico club. and its not the EXACT same. different intake manifold. haha

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i didnt say it was the same i said not exactly the same but they are close enough

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who says it would add 200 lbs and would hit the steering rack as it has never been attempted at least not that i know of. let me know if i am wrong.

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Use the search button it has been done. I have seen videos on youtube.

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OutToWinPAHC wrote:Those modular V8 are VERY wide. I just saw one side by side to an LS1 on stands. I dont think it would work, unless you relocated the steering column to rack bar

Example a LS1 or SBC is similar to the 302
They are both ford engines in that picture. Left motor is dual cam cobra...and the other is the 302 sohc.

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No, that's definitely a push rod engineford yes

this is a sohc engine


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Please don't...... I know it's an obscure swap, but seriously. An LS1 is an all aluminum, 6 bolt main, pushrod V8. It's lighter, stronger, and simpler. And it can make so much more power, with less work. Try doing heads on a 4 cam as opposed to a pushrod engine. Plus that 4.6 is soooo weak. What are the price differences comparitivaley? If the 4.6 is what you can afford, then by all means. Chevy PWNS Ford...

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I own a 4.6L 4V engine and I would still use the LS1, 2, etc over the DOHC.

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offroadbob wrote:No, that's definitely a push rod engineford yes

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Dude just count the cams on that side by side pic I posted you can clearly see 4

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blacksrjdm wrote:
They are both ford engines in that picture. Left motor is dual cam cobra...and the other is the 302 sohc.
I was wrong yet...the one on the right is not a ford engine that is an ls1 look at the heads, def. ls1. The picture is labeled wrong. The one on the right is the cobra 4.6l and the right is a 350 cu ls1.

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First the LS1 is a 346CI engine. Second it has a very distintive timing cover, it also uses a reverse flow water pump which is also very distintive, And that motor appears to have a mechanical fuel pump opening.

302 saleen crate motor LS1

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yea no look at the water pump then look at a water pump from an ls1. the ford 5.0 302

a ls1

these are just observations

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Ur probably right, I dont know that much about v8's. Had an LT1 camaro for a while with a cam, but didnt know a whole lot about it. Want to get 3000 for my sr swap though, and put an ls1 in also.

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what about this
Modified by Jessy240sx at 1:21 PM 10/27/2008

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that 302 saleen crate engine is a 3v sohc engine, and where are these videos on youtube nothing to be seen so far?

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only cobra motor i would consider would be the late model supercharged motor. That would be AWESOME!

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Now there is a difference between sohc and a ohv engine. The LS1 and the 302 are both OHV engines not sohc engines. They use push rods, and over head valves. Sohc is like the kaE and a dohc is like the kaDE. I just wanted to clear it up from earlier posts. Someone said the 302 was sohc engine on the right side of the first pic.

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i am the one that said 200 lbs, i did not say anything about a steering rack. that cobra motor easily weights 200 lbs more then an ls1. the ls1 adds 50 lbs to the chassis (ask me how i know i own a Ls1 coupe). the ls1 also weights less then the 5.0. its a superior motor any way you look at it, its more reliable, more fuel efficient (i get 30 MPG highway), and its so easy to make power its not even funny.

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hmm, is a ls1 a ideal swap? how much is the motor

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Jessy240sx wrote:
what about this

Modified by Jessy240sx at 1:21 PM 10/27/2008
that's a certified p.o.s. is what that is... four turbos? laaaaaame

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cause my buddy has blown 3 this year alone wihtou added boost : (

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the whole ls1 swap cost me 8000 including an engine and transmission with warranty for $4,500 shipped. lots of little things that nickel and dime you to death. i dont even wanna know how much it would be to swap a cobra motor in..... and yes i do think the ls1 swap is ideal since it keeps the almost perfect weight balance of the car. and u wont even notice 50 lbs i have a really bad leaking rack and have no ps and it still easy to drive.


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