3way or 4way for 6.5 fronts on an s13?

[lbrowne]

This system is only going to ever be just an aftermarket deck and upgraded speakers. Got to figure out what I'll do about those 4x6 in the hatch - but thats later.

I know that higher end speakers don't sound as good if they don't have an amp powering them.

So I'll be sticking with a Pioneer/Kenwood/Sony type speaker unless someone can make a better suggestion for my setup using the 6.5 size for my front stage.

Most likely a 2 way of some sort for the rear later on down the road....

Cheers,

lbrowne

[Looneybomber]

It's not that you want to use crap-*** speakers with an aftermarket HU, it's just that with an external amp, it helps clean up the noise a little bit. You really can use whatever brand/cost speakers you want even though you're not using an external amp.

As for 3way vs 4way, I perfer 2 way even if we're not talking about separates/components. A 3 or 4 way just adds too much emphasis in the upper midrange (the 5.5-8KHz) and then is much too sparkely up top (15+KHz). I perfer a 2-way with a silk, textile or other soft domed tweeter. However, car audio tweeters are typically always hard domed ***I'm using Crutchfield because it's easy to search through them***These Infinity's wouldn't be too badhttp://www.crutchfield.com/S-D...012SI

These Alpines would also be pretty good.http://www.crutchfield.com/S-D...S17C2

This is the MClass 6.5" by Memphis Audio. I have these in the doors of my explorer. The cost is pretty good, they have an external x-over and I believe they're bi-ampable IIRC. Also the tweeter pivots, but only around 30degrees or so. There are better speakers out there, but they're not bad for the money.http://www.memphiscaraudio.com...id=16Carbon Fiber

Elemental Design has a line of separates that might work for you?http://edesignaudio.com/produc...r=USDBTW, stay away from Kenwood, Sony and Pioneer if you can help it. They're not bad, but you can do better.


Modified by Looneybomber at 5:16 AM 8/11/2006

[lbrowne]

Thanks for the info! Really though? 2 ways for the fronts? hrmm....

Pioneer seemed to be priced right for me, thats why I was looking at them I want a good bit of backfill bass from my speakers, nothing comparable to a sub or anything, but as you know the stock stereo is VERY tinny.

[Badfish]

I'm not an audio guy but I picked up a set of Infinty Kappa 63.7i's 6.5inch 3-ways for about $130 a couple months ago. I love them.

These. http://www.crutchfield.com/S-v...8637I

[Looneybomber]

Thanks for the info! Really though? 2 ways for the fronts? hrmm....

You may actually LOVE 4 ways! My ears, however, cannot handle any of the cheap 3 or 4 way speakes I've heard because their drivers are dirt cheap! If you're spending 100/pair for some 2way's, that's 25/driver. If you're spending 100/pair for some 4 ways, that's 12.50/driver.

To me, 3 ways were invented just to "1 up" the 2 ways. After that, the 4 ways are just a selling gimmick to sucker in the clueless into believing you need a tweeter and a "super tweeter" with crap-*** crossovers to play your music better. I don't buy it. A good set of 2ways are just fine, along with a component set.

I will admit though, Boston Acoustics came out with a 3 way component set in their pro series some years back. It sounded good in the store, but to get some 3way kickpanels to fit in your car would be a pain!

So to recap, go to a store and listen to them, see which ones actually sound the best to you and buy them.

[lbrowne]

A good set of 2ways are just fine, along with a component set.

A component set, so something outside of just the normal 2 way speaker because just a 2 way speaker on its own won't sound good? (I might be just confused on that part)

I'm all but turned away from 4 ways now after some research

[Looneybomber]

A component set, so something outside of just the normal 2 way speaker because just a 2 way speaker on its own won't sound good? (I might be just confused on that part)

I'm all but turned away from 4 ways now after some research

Yeah, I worded that bad. I should have said "2-ways are just fine and so are component sets."

If you can, go to a store and listen to some. Back in the day, I was all about Kicker, Infinity and Boston Acoustics. I had never even thought of Memphis audio until I poked my head into a local audio shop while inquiring about some Eclipse subs. I took a listen to some of their 6x8's while I was bored and really liked them for the price even though they have a metal domed tweeter. I ended up buying a pair as I left without the subs I was originally going to buy.

I have never once regretted buying them and even thought about buying another pair for the rear, but I now have an idea of doing a stealth install of some 6.5" subs from Elemental Designs in that same location. I'm hoping to build a fiberglass box that will be big enough so I can put 2 in each rear quarter panel. That project is pretty far down on my list though. I must complete other things before doing that.

[xckid]

....right now i am running pioneer 4 way speakers from wally world i know i know it from wally word ....better then what i had before though...there okay if your not planning on turning it up any louder past like say 24~26 then they just get all distorted ...and for the back 4x6 are Crud.....im thinking of changing to Alpine 6.5 comp. in front they sound really nice..and some Alpine 6x9's in the back ...i think that would sound nice...my head unit right now is a Alpine umm...CDE9845 its nice.

[one85_db]

Well I use a 2way comp set by CDT Audio in the front and, I have nothing in the rear. I have to say that I won a Crutchfield car stero comp for sound quality with my setup. I have a full range sound with 6 speakers total including 2 12" Boston Acoustics G2 subs. I also have a second place in SPL @ 145.8 DB.

I fabricated brackets for my 6.5" speakers to fit in my doors, however i would not suggest my mounting location instead I am going to move mine, (to the purple circle) because they get kicked alot.

With my 2way set i actually find that i have to much highs and Higher midrange where the vocals take place. There is absolutly no reason for 3 or 4 way sets. the tweeter super tweeter thing in 3 ways is a sales gimmic. the frequence that a super tweeter produces is above most human hearing and always above the recording frequencys. Also a 4way set offers a useless mid-range speaker that creates noise between the main base speaker and the tweeter causing unwanted peaks in the higher midrange level.

Stick with 2 ways you will get more for the money.