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350z vs G35

Postby jEzTeR » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

Hey I know this is the place to go for the answers and opinions im looking for.I was at the Infiniti dealer today which is in the same BIG lot as the Nissan dealership.I weent to the Infinity section to check out the Q45 and M45(BAD A55) when this coup caught my eye.It was the 2003 G35 2 door.I really liked it!Now its got me thinking.Whats major diff between the 2 cars.They didnt have the brochure on the coup but the G35 4 door says that its got 260 hp.Wwhy is it short of the 287 hp that the Z has?Can I get a chip ubgrade for the g35 to make up the hp?Wwill the Turbo set up that they are testing for the 350z work with the g35? IMO the G35 has a better dash setup.So have at it,as much information as I can get! :D


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Postby aaacomp » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

Just came back from Sewell Infiniti (getting parts for Active conversion) Randy, parts manager and I were talking about the M45 and the G35. In short he told me that Infiniti was doing some really nice upgrades to the G35 - pop charger and dual module controller. The controller is the ECU, so in short they're in the stages of doing some really nice up grades to the G35... Oh,, Randy is a great person to get parts from at Internet Prices just let him know that your from the NICO and you know the guy who's always doing something to the Q.. (From AAA Computers)......................:thumbup

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Postby jEzTeR » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

Cool!They have a "track" Version with the Brembo's and 6-speed but they have to find a way to get the HP up to change my mind about the 350z!I like the back seet even though it streaches out the wheelbase and splits the weight a bit!

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Postby jmatas » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

The coupe has 280HP, only 7 shy of the Z. So that probably shouldn't be a detraction. As far as upgrades go, presumably anything you can do to a Z will work on a G Coupe. Also, with Nismo introducing the R-Spec line of factory mods for Infiniti in Spring 2003, you'll have no shortage of warranty-safe upgrades to pick from. There's not a whole lot of difference between the two cars as is- the Z is going to act more like a balls-out sportscar, the G is going to be more of a silent killer. The 6MT G coupe isn't going to lose a lot, performance wise, to the track edition Z. In my opinion, the G coupe is the most beautiful car on the road right now, but the Z will turn more heads. You won't beat Infiniti's service department-you can't underestimate the convenience of a free service loaner. These are the two cars I'm currently drooling over, and when it comes time to buy, I'm going with the G coupe. Good luck!

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Re: 350z vs G35

Postby Mayhem_J30 » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

jEzTeR wrote:.Wwhy is it short of the 287 hp that the Z has?


just like the HP differences on the altima and maxima nissan/infiniti has done this on purpose. don't want to shoot yourself in the foot by selling a cheaper car with more HP. i believe there's other rules to they follow or think about. like insurance rates on certain cars depend on HP ratings.from what i've read the Z has more then the g35 sedan via more aggressive cams, exhaust, and ecu.

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Postby greg_atlanta » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

It's been suggested that the 280 hp figure for the G35 coupe is artifically low for insurance purposes?? The engines between that and the Z are 99% the same, so it's foolish to be obsessed with numbers (if you insist on being obessed, be obsessed with torque).

But 350z will always be a little faster since it's smaller and lighter. The storage space in both cars is next to nothing, but at least in a G35 coupe the backseat could be used for storage purposes. That's the deciding factor for me should I buy one or the other.....

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Postby jEzTeR » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

Cool! What about the front and rear stabilizer bars?I know that the G35 doesnt have the rear one but im not sure about the front.I like the G35 over the 350z so far.I like the fact that it wont grab so much attention.The car is a real sight to see.The wheels need some improvement IMO,but hey what the heck. :D

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Postby SRJesse » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

I know exactly how you guys feel!!! I took the G35 sedan out for a 30min test drive. It had loads of power and did steer very precisely. They only had one coupe in stock and it was pre-sold here in NJ. The salesman that helped me should be giving me a call any day now to go back in and test drive the coupe!!!

About numbers, sadly to say 280hp isn't correct, or its not the RWHP measurement. I saw somewhere online where they dynoed both the 350z and the G35 and it only came out to about 220 or so. I am going to guess that all car manufacturers give out the flywheel HP just to gain attention. From my experience with the Sedan, I don't care what numbers come out that car is very fast and a very fun luxurious car to drive. I can't imaging how much better the coupe will be seeing its smaller, lighter, 20more HP!!!

The 350z is just for people that used to crave the 280z, 300zx. Its supposed to bring back the old days for some people. I personally love the 350z just because I love Nissans, but not having a back seat and the cheap plastic looking interior and door handles is a turn-off. If I had the money, I would certainly choose the G35 over the Z.

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Postby reggiegsd » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

As the HP ratings on smaller engines keep going up, the unique conditions required to get those numbers keep getting harder to duplicate. As the Q guys know, our 287 hp can feel like 210 on a hot summer day or like 320 on a cool night with high humidity.

If you want the same output every time you hit the gas, get a Chevy SB and tune it for 240 ft-lbs of tourqe.

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Postby Jason B » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

The choice should be clear:





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Postby EZcheese15 » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

SRJesse wrote: I am going to guess that all car manufacturers give out the flywheel HP just to gain attention.


Yeah, you guessed right. Those are BHP (brake horsepower) ratings. Which btw, is the same as flywheel (the term bhp comes from the method used to determine flywheel HP, which is measured by using engine braking on an engine dyno). But anyway, yeah, the G35 coupe is 280 bhp and the Z is 287 bhp. And normally I'm all about the performance. But in this case, the G35 coupe has won me over. It's like comparing two beautiful girls, and one just has a more mature attitude, but both are still great. I'm just in love with the rear end of the G35. She has a better a$$ :)

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Postby Jberger » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

I'd say the G35C is just about perfect. After driving them both, the Z may carve a bit better, but the G is just an IDEAL grandtouring machine.

Who cares about 7 HP difference, it's the long term differences that add up.

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Postby 240_of_pa » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

i agree with all of you that the g35 is a supreme vehicle but the z comes with a moster touring package that includes orange hand stiched leather all around, bigger brakes, and better headlights. i have this fake tivo thing thanks to comcast cable and they have a motor trend show that showed the g35 sedan ruin both the 330I, and the cts in braking, slalom, 0-60 and 0-100. and i saw a show with the z's touring package, its two hunderd pound lighter frame and huge tower brace, i would go with the z.

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Postby SmithSR » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

i love both of these machines. every time i drive by a nissan/infinti dealer, i slow way down and drool some. i also do this at the porsche and audi dealers.

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Postby Sopdadope » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

The G35 is the better looking more luxurious of the two cars. Strangely enough, despite giving up 7hp to the Z is also the faster of the two around road courses. Magazines have attributed this to the G35's more balanced and solid-feel. Hands down, the G35.

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Postby AZhitman » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

The HP diff is simply due to a different muffler system on the G35.

All mods that will be available for the Z should be equally effective on the G.

The G35 is, IMO, one of the most beautiful new cars on the road. Interestingly enough, I find the new Z to be one of the ugliest... Too cartoonish for me - I got the same feeling when I saw the New Beetle and the Audi TT.

G35 Coupe will be my next car when the warranty runs out on Quella.

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Postby Jeff Williams » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

I was about to say the sme thing, the G35 seems to be more balanced taht the 350Z.

It was my impression, tha you had to give up the leather in the Z, to get the track package. The G35 has the big brakes and leather.

Car and drive has compared both the Z and the G35 in comparisons. Not against the same cars, but they both came out #1, if I remember.

After dealing wiht Nissan and Infiniti servcie, I would recommend Infiniti, hands down!

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Postby G8R45 » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

Count another vote for the G35. Make mine a black 6 spd coupe please.

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Postby Jeff Williams » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

Mine will be brilliant silver, with the willow leather interior, Aero package, DVD Nav system, Performance tire & wheel package, power sunroof, Bose audio system, and splash guards.

$37,745.00 with $575.00 destination charges$ 1,000.00 Prevoius Infiniti Owner discount$ 2,500.00 Haggle discount$15,000.00 Trade-In on the 2000 I30t Sport

3% Financing for 60 Months

$363.78 per month

Not that I spent much time thinking about it...

Time to wake up, now.

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Postby baco99 » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

Jason B wrote:The choice should be clear:





;)


I AGREE!

the G35 is sooo much sexier than the 350Z. i also think the seats are more comfortable. plus you get two extras!

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Postby BadQ45t » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

And you can get the G-35 with the big brembos just like the track Z. The interior layout is what would sway me to the G plus the service department and better warranty. I have a 2 seater 300ZX (1984 original owner) and though the 2+2 was sad, but I like the G, especially if it was the only car you own.

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Postby 6speedG35sedan » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

You guys are all missing the big sleeper, the G35 6 speed sedan. It is lighter (by almost 300lbs) than the coupe and the weight transfer is closer to 50/50 on the sedan. I can tell you fisrt hand that the sedan 6 speed is the true sleeper. I just need to put a little bigger meats in the rear to get some more traction.

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Postby maxnix » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

6speedG35sedan wrote:You guys are all missing the big sleeper, the G35 6 speed sedan. ... I can tell you fisrt hand that the sedan 6 speed is the true sleeper. I just need to put a little bigger meats in the rear to get some more traction.
Sounds like a good bet to me. Would love to drive one with the Brembo upgrade.

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Postby Jeff Williams » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

Check out the thread about the Nitrous kit on the G35, that sounds sweet to me.

It is in the G35 Forum, "Nitrous on a G35 Coupe"

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Postby greg_atlanta » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

They're both too small for me!!! :(

And no telescopic wheel either.

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Postby nlzmo400r » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

well all this hp talk is bs for the most part (no offense tho), SCC tested both teh g35 6spd and 350z 6spd, despite the claimed hp difference, the ACTAUL RWHP difference is only 2, and the tq difference is 8, the G35 6psd (coupe) put down 242hp @625o rpm, and 23o ft lbs of tq @ 46oo rpm, so there u go as far as numbers, and the g35 coupe 6spd is 188lbs heavier than the Z, and im pretty sure the g35 is more costly too, however, im about balls to the wall performance (cant u tell by what i drive) so id go with the Z, however, im seeing so many of them!!!< it sickens me, anyway, the Z handles better due to lighter weight and hte big bar thingy in the back :), but my ultimat choice would be the 35oZ track model, with the g35coupe spoiler!!!!

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Postby nlzmo400r » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

either way, u cant go wrong, but if u have kids (haha, although they are cute lil buggers arent they) id say practicality rules and go withteh g35, but then again, u do have a fine altima for a fam car, so hmm, ur livin hte highlife man, im so envious, have some fun, sell the vette and get a Z, but what happened to the g2o idea, dont tell me ur getting 2 new cars!!!!!!!

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Postby baco99 » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

the sedan is nice, but there is something PERFECT about the proportions on the coupe. it is truly the best buy on 4 wheels this year, IMO.

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Postby madmax88 » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

the g is for me

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Postby lessthanjakejohn » Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:34 pm

aaacomp wrote:Just came back from Sewell Infiniti (getting parts for Active conversion) Randy, parts manager and I were talking about the M45 and the G35. In short he told me that Infiniti was doing some really nice upgrades to the G35 - pop charger and dual module controller. The controller is the ECU, so in short they're in the stages of doing some really nice up grades to the G35... Oh,, Randy is a great person to get parts from at Internet Prices just let him know that your from the NICO and you know the guy who's always doing something to the Q.. (From AAA Computers)......................:thumbup


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