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shane_lxi
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Okay, I just recently heard of this swap. Purchased the necessary rb20 flywheel, and the 350z clutch is in the mail. However, I was unsure whether or not to use the vq35 throw out bearing with the clutch kit. Did a search on the clutch swap and only brought up two results that didnt help, so I think this is a genuine unanswered question as of yet :D.


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Mostly because NO ONE has done it. There are so many options for the 240SX that there's no need to do a hybrid clutch setup.

But you can be the first and find out it's either great...or sucks. Either way let us know.

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I used a 240 to bearing myself. Also with a exedy oem replacement clutch. Which clutch did you go with. The exedy is currently holding 425 whp with no slippage. The pedal feel is great also, not all crazy like it would be with the ACT clutch kit. If you got a stage 2 or higher you may have to change some things for more leverage. Also if you stand on your clutch pedal alot you may want to check it and make sure the tack welds on the bracket are holding up, I pulled mine and retacked it since I replaced my clutch cylinder, slave and full length braided line all in one go. Gl with the setup.

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i want to know if this really works let us know and I'll be next

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It does work, I've put about 800-1000 miles on it so far with no issues. There's a few others who have done it also I think. I got my flywheel from jsp on ebay and the clutch from gripforce I think, I'll have to look because I buy too many parts for different cars to remember exactly. The entire setup cost be around 600 and it feels better than stock and grabs all day long. If you don't have 600 to spend rps, south bend, and comp. clutch's are all good also. I don't recommend the act unless you have over 550 ftlbs, its overkill and you most likely willn't like the pedal feel.

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WDRacing wrote:There are so many options for the 240SX that there's no need to do a hybrid clutch setup.WD
It's done for a bigger surface/friction area.

Stock is 220mm (IIRC).

One hybrid setup is 240mm and another is 250mm (IIRC). Streetable clutch pedal + lots of grab.

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It is pretty streetable but not with anything above a stage 2 clutch/pp setup. Also I would replace the fork pivot to the hardened one because if you have a zillion miles on your transmission it will probably buckle from the extra force of the stage 2 or higher. Also us 240 guys don't have it to bad even with the stock setup. Have you ever seen a clutch out of a s2000? What a f**king joke, thank god they don't make anymore torque than they do because the stock clutch wouldn't last 10k miles. If anyone would like I can give you info and part #'s of all the components I used to do my swap.

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Might as well post them up (if you don't mind), someone might find the info useful later on....

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Setup has been around for a while. But people havn't wanted to shell out the money for it..AMS has had it available for a while.. Check it out. http://www.amsperformance.com/...=1242

But if you can supply part numbers, and the manufacturers name... Please post them up. It would be something I would be interested in doing... Even though my setup has less than 3k on it.. lol

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GlacierFreeze wrote:
It's done for a bigger surface/friction area.

Stock is 220mm (IIRC).

One hybrid setup is 240mm and another is 250mm (IIRC). Streetable clutch pedal + lots of grab.
Oh I know "WHY" it's being done. I was just saying there are lots of options, that's why most people don't use the 350Z method. That way if there weren't a lot of replies...the answer was there.

For the record, My SPEC setup...flywheel and stg 4 assembly drives like stock but holds much power with no slippage. So the need for xtra surface area isn't a must have. I'm by no means saying don't do this...just making a point for anyone that stumbles across this thread.

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Exactly WD, if you don't need it, it isn't nec. I did this because I got my flywheel cheaper than even a fidanza, and the 350z exedy feels very very nice and its not harsh at all. Sure you can buy a nice 240 clutch, my rps was around 400, with the fidanza that brings you to around 700, I spent about 80 less for the setup I have and the flywheel is billet steel(which is my own preference). If your doing a 5 speed swap or need a flywheel and a clutch its something to consider, nothing more nothing less.

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Kay, running a stock rb20 flywheel, xtd stage 2 350z clutch, and a koyo ka24 bearing. Holding 388hp, and 423flbs with no slippage.The reason I chose to go with this setup personally, is because most the clutches I could fins that held the horsepower I put down are pretty spendy. A cheaper 350z clutch and pressure plate will run you about $300, and hold 450-500hp. And I found a guy with a rb20 flywheel for $70, so I really couldnt pass up the deal :P.

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http://www.ka-t.org/forums/vie...wheel

should hold all the info you need

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another option is using the hardb0dy D21 f\ywheel and the Z32 clutch. the D21 flywheel is the same size as the RB

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BoostsFed wrote:another option is using the hardb0dy D21 f\ywheel and the Z32 clutch. the D21 flywheel is the same size as the RB
How sure are you about that? Certainly possible but with the two different vehicles using different clutches, I would think the flywheels would be different, maybe the same flywheels with different strength clutches that are the same size? What I found was...

z32 style clutch works in

Years Make Model Engine Type Liter Size 1989 - 1996 Nissan 300ZX V6 3.0000 1989 - 1996 Nissan 300ZX 2+2 V6 3.0000 1998 - 1999 Nissan Frontier L4 2.4000 1996 - 1997 Nissan Pickup L4 2.4000 1996 - 1997 Nissan Pickup SE L4 2.4000 1996 - 1997 Nissan Pickup Short Bed XE L4 2.4000 1996 - 1997 Nissan Pickup XE L4 2.4000 300ZX 1/31/89 - 96 non-turbo Frontier 98-99 2.4 Pickup 1/1/96 - 97 2.4

And the d21 style clutch works in

Years Make Model Engine Type Liter Size 1987 - 1988 Nissan 200SX V6 3.0000 1975 - 1978 Nissan 280Z 2+2 L6 2.8000 1978 Nissan 280ZX 2+2 L6 2.8000 1980 Nissan 280ZX 2+2 L6 2.8000 1982 - 1983 Nissan 280ZX 2+2 L6 2.8000 1981 Nissan 280ZX 2+2 GL L6 2.8000 1984 - 1989 Nissan 300ZX V6 3.0000 1984 - 1989 Nissan 300ZX 2+2 V6 3.0000 1983 - 1985 Nissan 720 Pickup L4 2.0000 1983 - 1985 Nissan 720 Pickup L4 2.4000 1986 Nissan 720 Pickup L4 2.4000 1986 Nissan D21 Pickup V6 3.0000 1986 - 1994 Nissan D21 Pickup L4 2.4000 1987 - 1989 Nissan Pathfinder L4 2.4000 1994 Nissan Pickup L4 2.4000 1996 Nissan Pickup SE L4 2.4000 1995 Nissan Pickup Short Bed E L4 2.4000 1994 - 1996 Nissan Pickup Short Bed XE L4 2.4000 1994 - 1996 Nissan Pickup XE L4 2.4000 200SX 87-88 3.0 280Z 75-78 2+2 only 280ZX 78-83 2+2 non-turbo 280ZX 1979 2+2 turbo 300ZX 84-1/31/89 non-turbo Pathfinder 86-89 2.4 Pickups 2.0 83-89, 2.4 83-12/31/96


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might wonna try Clutchnet guys as well, they've got pretty heavy duty staff also and sad they'll bit any price..

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350z with a greddy twin kit ive seen hold up 400whp on stock clutches. that means a standard ka-t'er will have no problem with the power rating they hold.

ka24de fidanza flywheel $330ka24de act xtreme clutch $400total about $730

rb20 billet flywheel $250350z nismo clutch set $490total about $740

theyre about the same price but the 350z nismo clutch will hold way more than the ka24de act xtreme clutch will. the act xtreme is only rated 330ft lbs of tq. whereas the 350z nismo clutch is rated over 500 ft lbs

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got my d21 cluch and flywheel installed. granted I ant boosted yet, but all seems well and less than half the price of the 350z settup (~$270, and can be had for cheaper) all seem well. will post back after turboing.PS: I didn't have to remove any pins on my s13, as guides suggest, but did beat in a little the dust cover to allow clearence for the flywheel to mate up correctly and cut a little off (~5mm on both accounts) A frined helping out took some pictures with rule to show before and after.

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vq flywheel wont work?

just a shot in the dark...itd be awesome to be able to get a tilton race clutch

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ppctx wrote:got my d21 cluch and flywheel installed.
i told you so!!!!!

i'm using z32 clutch on my boosted d21 (hardbody) and z32 clutch on rb25 as well, because the d21 clutch is weaker than the z32. however the d21 flywheel is a cheaper oem replacement alternative. few people know that.


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