350 chevy small block in a z32,is it possible and has it been done?

[FoutchZ32]

Alright you guys are my last resort. I have a 1990 z32 non turbo and i want to put a different engine in it cuz the current one is blown.Twin turbos are to common, sr20 is to stupid, rb25 or 26 involves to much cut n stretch work... so i figured i would throw somethin in there that most wouldnt be expecting and decided on a chevy 350sb. Now i need advice and opinions...can it be done and has anyone done it. Ive seen 240s with em and even a z31 with one. I wanna know is it possible...and please dont respond with the famous "well anything is possible with enough money and time" or "why would i do it" Im tired of round about answers and ive heard this is the most active nissan forum...please help!

[AZhitman]

Foutch, welcome aboard!

You won't get that crap here - We actually DO crazy stuff to our cars!

I know of at least THREE sb-Chevy Z32's off the top of my head. I will contact one of the owners and link him to this thread so he can give you some tips.

[AZhitman]

Check in right here - This is my friend Dan's car - He'll be on here tomorrow to help you out.

http://www.myspace.com/v8nside

[V8NSIDE]

Hey whats up?I would be happy to answer any questions anyone has regarding the swap.

By the way, Thanks Greg for the Nopi thing, it’s much appreciated!

[WidebodyZ]

LS1 2+2

[evildky]

I say stick to the VG30DETT, you'll spend as much doing the sbc conversion and make as much power, I see no real benefit to the sbc unless you just have them laying around and are skeered to work on a over head cam motor

[WidebodyZ]

I say stick to the VG30DETT, you'll spend as much doing the sbc conversion and make as much power, I see no real benefit to the sbc unless you just have them laying around and are skeered to work on a over head cam motor

you're kidding right? Those motors are a dime a dozen, as are the parts for them. The aftermarket support for them is amazing and they are light weight to boot and far easier to work on than a VG. They go for as little as 3K and sometimes even less. And this is for a far newer motor that is more reliable (yes, I know you can get a VG for half that, but that's not the point). I HATE the VG30DETT motor with a passion, which is why an RB26 is going in this time rather than another VG (I should have done that before my last motor). I'm not here to argue, just to put in my $0.02. So no harm meant.

[evildky]

I done wild swaps and it just somes down to how many issues you want to deal with

there is a set path to building a 550whp VG30DETT and a pretty simple one that requires not machining just bolt on the bigger turbo's I/C's FI/s and remapped ecu with the usual intake exhaust mods

to do a 550 whp cheby you'll have to take one a several approaches to build the motor then you have to fab the mounts and driveshaft cooling system, etc

nothing wrong with the swap if thats what you do but it's more work, I almost did a V* in my 240Z but I decided to do L28ET instead and glad I did, I made more power cheaper than the custome shaft and other odds and ends needed for a swap and the L6 is way easy to work on

and I agree the VG30DETT is a pain to work on but the beuaty is they require little service, the RB26DETT does have an appeal but the pricetag is too high for the little gain I'd get over the L28ET

[unclejoe]

Any experience dropping in a M45 V8?

[audtatious]

There are some. Here is a 4.5L TT version...

[unclejoe]

what are you using for a transmission?

[MinisterofDOOM]

That is actually not an M45 V8. It's an older Q45 V8. The M45 (both generations) uses the VK45DE. That Z has a VH45DE. That's certainly not a bad thing, though, as the VH is an excellent motor (some would argue that it's a better choice than the VK) and is easier to come by than the newer VK.

There is a thread in our V8 forum with information on a Z32 5speed to VH45DE adapter plate which is being made by one of our members. Unfortunately, you've just missed the cutoff date for the group buy.

[unclejoe]

I can't thank you enough! Go photos of my "project" in the Racing section at http://unclejoe.com

jb

[V8NSIDE]

My car does not put out a lot of power per say but it does not need to, you have to look at the big picture; weight, gear ratios, front to back ratios, torque, and so on. A 500hpr VG is mostly turbos, don’t get me wrong I love turbo’d cars I work on them all day long, but there is nothing like having all that power at once and not having to wait for it. For example, my cars numbers are; weight just under 3000p. gear ratio-4.08(non turb). Front to back ratio-52/48. torque-372w. horsepower-364w, and my car stays neck to neck with a Viper GTS ACR and I barely spent $16,000 (that swap including the car).I’m not trying to start a fight; hey if you have the patients to work on a VG30DETT or are able to do a swap by you’re self, my hat of to you. I’m just giving you my input on why it’s a good swap. Remember its you’re car, do what you want.

[idriveaTTz32]

I see nothing wrong with doing a LS1 with a six speed so do what you want, but why does th VG get such a bad rap?

its a very reliable motor and very strong and its not that hard to work on. The only reason you hear such horror stories is because for most people its 13-16yr old car thats been put through the paces. Most of its problems are related to rough previous owners and neglected maintenance...if you do the responsible thing and seek out a Z worth buying you should not have too many problems with it NA or TT...with these cars you are fighting age and hack jobs not a bad engine or car. the other reason they get such a bad rap is that the people that are buying them are probably people who cant really afford them so they just let them go to waste until they cant afford it anymore....its one of the best cars nissan has ever built period!

[WidebodyZ]

its a very reliable motor and very strong and its not that hard to work on.

Wow, you need to work on everyones VG then. Even guys that I know that MOSTLY work on VG's and have for years will tell you it's a pita. I agree with them and have personally done tons myself..maybe that's all you've worked on ever and have nothing to compare it to?? I can't think of why else, I mean SR's and RB's are far easier to work on. If you think it's easy, you need to be teaching some courses on the ease of repairing and maintaining the VG motor.

[V8NSIDE]

Like I stated earlier if you work on the VG my hat of to you. Come one a 20B rotary is easier. But if you want to work on a easy motor, there is noting better than a 2JZGTE, now that’s easy.

[evildky]

all V engines are a pita to work on IMHO, the L6 now thats easy, 23 minutes to drop the transmission from a running car (the result of lots of practice........I'm not proud )

[V8NSIDE]

I know where u coming from. I can swap injectors on the VG in less than 4 hours, im not proud of that one but I can pull the 2jz out of a running mk4 supra with the transmission attached in 1 hour 45 minutes. Now that’s something I’m proud of.

[unclejoe]

let's talk about that swap. [email protected]

[Zwicked]

That's awesome! I love projects that deviate from the norm and will watch the forum to see what others do.I love the Z as it is, and as much when people personalize it to suit their own tastes.Long live hot-rodding!

[lilskirk23]

widebodyz, id watch what you say about the vg30dett considering you are still on the 300zx z32 forum and that is the engine they come with... there are a lot of people here who are committed to the vg30's. then again you are entitled to your opinion. by the way i do have to give it to you that you do have a pretty nice car.