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7000rpm10,000mi OCI3.7L$22,000

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And me being me, I'd have the convertible. I think I'd take one over the Camaro now since its a good bit lighter.


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Smurf Status.

But Yea The 2010 Mustang Looks Drop Dead Gorgeous.


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It's about friggin' time, too.

I'd still rather have the Camaro, as it is superior in the Chassis department (in my eyes, the Camaro is now a sports car, where the Mustang is still a pony car). But I definitely wouldn't mind having a Mustang to park next to it.

As for the 30mpg claim, I'll believe it when I see it. Ford also claims the Ecoboost gets 25mpg and that's a straight crock of crap.

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I love the direction they took the Mustang. It looks soo sharp, but I to would rather go with the Camaro.

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In a few years it is even going to have an independent rear suspension

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The live axle isn't even the Mustang's biggest problem. Ford NEEDS to tame the car's understeer. It's bad in the base model and actually WORSE in the hotter models. The bigger motors put more weight over the nose and aggravate the chassis' weakness. Even the more aggressive suspension setups of the GT and GT500 don't tame the car's desire to keep going straight all the time. More power is great, but now Ford needs to fix the car's handling, too.

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:The live axle isn't even the Mustang's biggest problem. Ford NEEDS to tame the car's understeer. It's bad in the base model and actually WORSE in the hotter models. The bigger motors put more weight over the nose and aggravate the chassis' weakness. Even the more aggressive suspension setups of the GT and GT500 don't tame the car's desire to keep going straight all the time. More power is great, but now Ford needs to fix the car's handling, too.
And it's not like they don't know how to make a car turn. As much as I like/want to like Ford they just don't make much of anything I'd want to drive.

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Veriest1 wrote:And it's not like they don't know how to make a car turn.
Did you know that the '05 Mustang was originally intended to use the same platform that underpins my LS as well as the Jag S-type and even the new XF? Ford decided that would be too expensive and instead decided to design a new platform (which actually does have a few minor structural items in common with the DEW LS/T-bird/Jag platform) specifically for the Mustang. Whoops. The LS has been referred to as "one of the best handling sedans ever built in America." Imagine if the Mustang could make that claim (well, minus the sedan part). Makes you wonder how much Ford really saved by switching to the new platform. The Camaro's return might have gone a lot differently, too, if it had a euro-blooded competitor to fight rather than the Mustang that actually exists.

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Speaking of DEW98, I want to test drive a retro Thunderbird. Seems like it would be an excellent road trip car.

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Yeah, I'd love to take one for a spin. Like the LS, you want to look for an '03 or later model for the upgraded (VVT, 30 more hp) engine and beefed-up automatic.

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:
Did you know that the '05 Mustang was originally intended to use the same platform that underpins my LS as well as the Jag S-type and even the new XF? Ford decided that would be too expensive and instead decided to design a new platform (which actually does have a few minor structural items in common with the DEW LS/T-bird/Jag platform) specifically for the Mustang. Whoops. The LS has been referred to as "one of the best handling sedans ever built in America." Imagine if the Mustang could make that claim (well, minus the sedan part). Makes you wonder how much Ford really saved by switching to the new platform. The Camaro's return might have gone a lot differently, too, if it had a euro-blooded competitor to fight rather than the Mustang that actually exists.
::sigh::

I remember all too clearly but I still find it hard to believe it was cheaper to design a whole new chassis instead of using an existing chassis. That just seems strange.

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yes! I'll take mine in black!


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Veriest1 wrote:::sigh::

I remember all too clearly but I still find it hard to believe it was cheaper to design a whole new chassis instead of using an existing chassis. That just seems strange.
It would have made more financial sense if Ford hadn't given up on plans for an extended lineup of D2C cars. Ford and Lincoln both showed D2C-based sedan concepts which never saw production.

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:I'd still rather have the Camaro
RCA wrote:I to would rather go with the Camaro.
wise words have been spoken.

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god I love how that car looks. The GT500 in that color with white stripes is one of the most beautiful 2010 cars that I've seen.

My car has 150hp and barely gives me 20mpg.....

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ill take a 405 hp corvette that gets 28 mpg for my moneys worth.

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Jesda wrote:Speaking of DEW98, I want to test drive a retro Thunderbird. Seems like it would be an excellent road trip car.
I drove one when they first came. It's very much a freeway cruiser, not particulaly sporty.

the new stang does look nice. but I'm not sure I'd want to own one.

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Don't forget: the Mustang and Camaro both make 400hp in V8 form, too. This 300hp Mustang is the V6 version.

I'd rather have the Corvette as well, but the 'Stang and Camaro come with 400+hp for ~$30k. The 'Vette is $20k more.

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Hasn't somebody done all the work for ford already?


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MellowS13 wrote:yes! I'll take mine in black!
That's what she said.

I am not a fan of these new Mustangs. I still think the ~2004 is the best looking post-fox body Mustang.

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breadbox wrote:Hasn't somebody done all the work for ford already?
Rousch offers a Stage 3 based on the new design, which I would consider. But it's double the price.

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Jesda wrote:10,000mi OCI
Dear god. I hope they only spec synthetic fluids. If not, these engines aren't going to last much over 100k miles

Or if they made the sump hold ~6 quarts with atleast a 1/2 quart filter.


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Camaro all the way! The only mustang I would like to have is 87-95 gt or saleen.

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Dear god. I hope they only spec synthetic fluids. If not, these engines aren't going to last much over 100k miles

Or if they made the sump hold ~6 quarts with atleast a 1/2 quart filter.
Yes, it's very likely synthetic but there's likely fine print. It'll probably say 10K/1 YR for for "regular" use, 5K/6months for "severe" use. As info, Toyota now has a 10K mile OCI for the 2010 Prius which uses a 0W-20 synthetic.

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These extended oil change intervals with small sumps are scaring me.

If ford plays the regular/severe game, typically everyone falls under severe, but they'll market the regular use OCI.


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I bet it doesnt make 305hp or get 30mpg...

...dont fall victim to the hype

plus its a Mustang. Mustangs are for females, especially powder blue convertibles

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PoorManQ45 wrote:These extended oil change intervals with small sumps are scaring me.

If ford plays the regular/severe game, typically everyone falls under severe, but they'll market the regular use OCI.
Exactly, it sounds wonderful. The fine print is always a downer. Since severe use includes anyone that regularly makes short trips when the temperature stays below freezing, that 10K OCI loses much of its value for a lot of buyers. Would not surprise me to hear about sludge complaints from people that buy these extended OCI models.

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Koshin wrote:I bet it doesnt make 305hp or get 30mpg...

...dont fall victim to the hype
i predict 260 whp and 26mpg tops.

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If cars had balls, this one would be well hung.[IMG][/IMG]

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Yuck Orange.





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