300zx versus 240sx???

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m_240sx
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Hi Guys, I wanted to get your opinions on these two cars.

240sx, s14 (SE) versus a 96 NA 300zx. Pros, cons? Where pricing isn't an issue.

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all awncers are here. CLICK ME

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I think the letters "NA" hands down gives it to the 240.

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The first Nissan I fell in love with was the 300ZX.

Then I learned how cramped the engine bay was with two turbos and a V6.Then I found out the 240sx was RWD, just like the Z.And I learned the 240 shared its suspension design with the Z.And then I found NICO and learned you can swap a Silvia or Skyline motor in it, or just turbocharge the 240's KA.And finally I got an insurance quote for a Z32 TT.

I still love the shape of the Z, but an S14 is for me!!

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that or be like me and get both :)

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the first time something breaks on the z, you will wish you had bought a 240. a timing belt change can cost near $1000 at the dealer. trust me, these are high matinence cars...

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k6kicker wrote:that or be like me and get both :)
Now that is the best of both worlds!!

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He still needs a pig noise 240 hb and 13 vert and a 13 coupe.

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whiterps13 wrote:the first time something breaks on the z, you will wish you had bought a 240. a timing belt change can cost near $1000 at the dealer. trust me, these are high matinence cars...


At the dealer...

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yeah... couldnt you do a timing belt change urself?

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mrflip69 wrote:At the dealer...
Don't know if you've ever got a quote on a timing chain job on a 240SX...it certainly isn't cheap. New oil pump on a 240SX at the local dealership is about $1600...that was worth a laugh.

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yeah but you only have to change the timing chain ONCE.

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Preferance, preferance, preferance. You can make any car fast as long as you want to. I guarentee you if i wanted to and i had the money i could take a Honda Civic and spank everyone's car, thing is i dont want to. I love both cars. The 300ZX is solid, as long as you change the timing belt around 70k miles. Stock vs stock id take the 300Z, but you have to take into consideration how much it costs, how much you want to put into it, and what you are going to do with it. If pricing isnt an issue than id pick neither. If you have money for both id take the 300Z, but a 96 is gonna be alot more than an S14. If i were you id get a 93 or lower 300ZXTT.

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they are both really nice cars, but I have to vote for the Z. i'd kill for a nice Z32, albeit only turbo. we all want turbos..........still though, they are a lot sexier than the S chassis and have the namesake of a Z. it's still as tough choice though. I agree w/ 240SXedUp - personal preferance is what it will boil down to.

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great, he specifically says "Where pricing isn't an issue." and look what happened!

anyways, i am also curious to compare the front suspension between our macpherson strut and whatever the 300zx has?

im sure you could help us out on that one k6kicker, how does the handling differ from the 240 to z due to the different front suspensions, among other factors

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well guys, yes it is personal preference, I just thought I'd throw it out there, because the 300zx that I saw was a pretty good deal, w/ ABS, LSD, bla bla bla. But it's funny, maybe because I was driving an NA, but the car just felt sluggish compared to the 240s that i've test drove.

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I believe the 240 will out handle the Z all day long - Z's are pigs and pigs USUALLY don't handle. But then again, unless something is wrong with the Z, regardless of how sluggish you think it might feel, it will almost certainly leave the 240 w/ ease.

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If you are gonna get a 300z, get the twin turbo. If not, get a 240.My buddy just got a '93 NA 300z, and i was not impressed with it at all. We took both of our cars out on some back roads to give em a good rundown, at once point he put his hand out the window and gave me the 'peace' sign like he was going to leave me in the dust. I dropped my car into 3rd, gunned it, and my friend never got away from me. I don't even think he pulled away at all. So get a TT cus NA's arnt worht the hastle (maintenence), money or anything over a 240. Thats just my 2 bits worth though. :)

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xns wrote:yeah... couldnt you do a timing belt change urself?
buwhahahahahaha i dare you to even try to change the plugs on a z32...as stated before, high maintaince

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Timing chains are CHEAP at the dealer! Only cost me an '88 Sentra in ok condition to fix mine!

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Hi guys, hehe, I never knew asking such a simple question would stir up such drama. Any who, I havn't bought either car yet. The guy selling the 300zx will get desperate as he is moving, and it appears that there's no real market for it. I told him that I would only buy the car if it was good deal (since it wasn't my first choice) choice #1 goes to the S14.

So, if I find an s14 for a reasonable price, it's bye bye 300zx. (you guys suaded, the s14, price for pound/performance/maintanence is going to be my goal in the long run. If I get the 300zx, I may just hold on to it long enough until I find the S14), I mean I offered the guy below trade in for the 300zx.

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With minimal mods the z32 will outhandle the s-car by a good bit, trust me i would know....The Z does have a heavier feel (although i cant comment on how a factory tt would be liek since mine is a n/a from nissan TT from me :)) but its far mroe planted and nuetral...to oversteer a z you need to do something stupid and theres not much understeer with good rubber and suspension

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Taking acquisition price out of the equation:

ZX advantages:much fastermore comfortablehandles a little betterhas cup holders.

240sx advantages:cheaper to repair/maintainbetter gas mileagecheaper to insure (not considered a sports car)

The ZX is a more upscale car with a bigger engine. It's going to cost more to operate/maintain than a 240. It really comes down to what you want from your car. Both are good. I've had a 240sx and currently have a Z. I consider the 240sx a better commuter. but if you want better performance, and have the money to maintain a V-6 sports car, then the Z may be a better choice.

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Z32's are not that bad to work on.....the engine bay is cramped though, so most things take a little while longer to do. Timing belt changes should occur every 60K miles and they cost around $500 for OEM parts and labor at Z1 Motorsports. If you are lucky enough to live in GA, I would recommend you visit them. Changing plugs is no big deal either, it takes about 30 minutes for all six. I highly recommend the Z32 in either NA form or TT form. The engines are bulletproof with NA's lasting upwards of 250K miles and TT's will last upwards of 200K miles before they need rebuilding. I purchased my TT last year and it has 140K miles on it and it runs very strong still. I have less than $10K total in the car including purchasing it and the upgrades and it runs low's 12's/high 11's consistently on stock turbos. The only reason I got a 240sx is for the handling factor and the fun to drive factor. You could easily make a Z32 outhandle a S14, but why? The Z32 is straightline acceleration and the S14 is a curvehugger. You decide.

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k6kicker wrote:that or be like me and get both :)


Yes get both like us :D

m_240sx
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well let me tell you guys this:The 300zx127K milesPearl WhiteAT$6000

Would that be a good deal?

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Bubba1 wrote:Taking acquisition price out of the equation:

ZX advantages:much fastermore comfortablehandles a little betterhas cup holders.


i dont know about other years but my z has no cupholder :)

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Bubba1 wrote:Taking acquisition price out of the equation:

ZX advantages:much fastermore comfortablehandles a little betterhas cup holders.

240sx advantages:cheaper to repair/maintainbetter gas mileagecheaper to insure (not considered a sports car)

The ZX is a more upscale car with a bigger engine. It's going to cost more to operate/maintain than a 240. It really comes down to what you want from your car. Both are good. I've had a 240sx and currently have a Z. I consider the 240sx a better commuter. but if you want better performance, and have the money to maintain a V-6 sports car, then the Z may be a better choice.


Insurance is not that much cheaper. I pay only $5 more for a my 92ttz than my 93 240sx. I imagine a N/A 300zx would be much cheaper. 300zx don't have cup holders, however you can buy a dual cup holder kit which makes it look factory for $15 or so.

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how fast is the 300zx stock and the s14 stock in the quarter mile? what about tt?

m_240sx
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the z has no cup holders, but the no one has told me if the price i'm paying for it would be considered a good deal.


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