-30 offset wheels

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cubasan
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I recently purchased 15x8 -30 offset wheels. I tried putting the wheels on but the studs are to short, need to get some longer ones to bolt them on. they do stick out about an inch or more, so I was wondering if anyone has seen this setup on any other S13, if not, then would some fenfer flares do the trick? i've tried looking around but cannot seem to find any cars with this setup, any advice would be appreciated..


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KC240SR
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oh wow....those must look awful.....

cubasan
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what offset would look good for an S13. Im looking for a flush look.

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anwhere from +25 to +35 I believe are relativly often used. but then again...some of the sportmax wheels and most meshies are anywhere from 0 offset to like +15. But generally negative offset is a no no for a 240.

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cool, thanks for the advice.

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Offset is just the distance from the center of the wheel (0 offset) of the mounting holes.

You have to realize taht offset alone doesn't determine flushness. YOu also have to take into consideration the width of the wheel. 0 offset on a 7in wide wheel will be .5 inch more sunken than 0 offset on an 8in wide wheel...

so offset alone doesn't mean diddly.

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KC240SR wrote:anwhere from +25 to +35 I believe are relativly often used. but then again...some of the sportmax wheels and most meshies are anywhere from 0 offset to like +15. But generally negative offset is a no no for a 240.
You are trippin, negative offsets on wide wheels is goooood on a 240.

But for a 15x8 -30 I would just pull the fenders should be close.

FYI I run a 18x9.5 -22 under pulled front fenders. Tire size, camber, and a bat is all you need.

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would you recommend me pull the fenders or get some flares?

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Tsukiko
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a heat gun helps too, if used very carefully.

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it depends on your taste i suppose. personally i would go with a flare if you would have to pull the fenders and dont really know how to do it yourself.

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KC240SR wrote:anwhere from +25 to +35 I believe are relativly often used. but then again...some of the sportmax wheels and most meshies are anywhere from 0 offset to like +15. But generally negative offset is a no no for a 240.
Are you smoking? Negative offset in general for a 240 is not bad. Sure an 18X12 -30 is probably going to have issues on a stock bodied 240, but a 15X8 -30 is ok with adjusted camber, fender roll and pull/small flares.

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thanks, i think i'll try pulling the fenders see how that looks with the wheels. but I need to get a camber kit too.

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SlipnSliden 240 wrote:
You are trippin, negative offsets on wide wheels is goooood on a 240.

But for a 15x8 -30 I would just pull the fenders should be close.

FYI I run a 18x9.5 -22 under pulled front fenders. Tire size, camber, and a bat is all you need.
Negative offset is not bad, but not good. Not good for wheel bearings, not good for fitment on stock fenders, not good for the steering axis inclination, not good for wheel return.

The most ive seen pulled is like 30mm on the stock fenders, even then, that requires professional work to look right and is hard to achieve.

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can these be corrected with proper camber and other suspension components?

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from what i've been told, you need upper control arms for the rear and a spring and strut combo with camber plates in the front (such as a coilover setup) to adjust camber, period. there are no camber kits.

there is a way of adjusting camber in the rear without new parts, but i personally would never do it. also...excessive camber for the sake of wheel fitment on anything driven on the street is just stupid. it creates excessive and uneven tire wear, and decreases traction. i wouldnt go any more than -1 or maybe -1.5 degrees of camber on any car you want to actually handle worth a s***.
Modified by Tsukiko at 11:54 PM 3/28/2008

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thanks, i'll start looking for some of those parts.

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Tsukiko wrote:there is a way of adjusting camber in the rear without new parts, but i personally would never do it.


Doesn't the S13 have an eccentric cam bolt for adjusting rear camber?

The rest of your message made sense.


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Yes, and omg dude where did you go...you don't know me I joined around the time you disappeared but lurked for years before that...

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Tsukiko
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i just talked to an alignment shop, they said that there really isnt a camber kit or rear camber adjustment in stock trim for the s13, and that i would need a set of RUCAs.

Im not going to bother finding the thread, but someone took a die grinder to their upper control arms to slot them out.

why bother doing that if there's a cam bolt?

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pics!!

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Tsukiko
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Tsukiko wrote:

Im not going to bother finding the thread

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Clawhammer wrote:Yes, and omg dude where did you go...you don't know me I joined around the time you disappeared but lurked for years before that...
Bought house, had kid, sold car, some teenager immediately wrecked it.


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There is a cam bolt to adjust camber on the rear. There is a cam bolt for all three rear links. Traction, toe, and upper control arms. The issue is that there is not enough adjust posibilty with that cam bolt. If you lower your car too much, the cam bolt can not remove much of the gained camber.
devil_child wrote:Negative offset is not bad, but not good. Not good for wheel bearings, not good for fitment on stock fenders, not good for the steering axis inclination, not good for wheel return.

The most ive seen pulled is like 30mm on the stock fenders, even then, that requires professional work to look right and is hard to achieve.
Im not to woried about wheel bearings. Just because I have a low offset dosent mean they will fail tomorrow,Maybe 15K mi early I can deal with that. I run 12* caster on my front wheels, my wheels return just fine. Most negative aspects can be corrected with a proper alignment.

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15x8 -30 are gangster offsets haha

anyways, I'm moving this thread into the proper forum

kthnxbuhbye


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