3.5 cvt traction control on or off which is faster??

[Beak]

ive been messing with the tcs. it pulls different when its on and off (or maybe its just in my head).... which do you guys think is faster/pulls harder.. on or off?? i have just tcs with no vdc

i dont think there is a thread just about this... at least i did not find one when i searched..

i would love to hear your opinions/experience

[mcheddadi]

tcs help in slippery conditions, other than that, for performance driving, I leave it off. on the cvt tcs is on top of another system that give the optimum revs depending on the power you want and the traction available so I wouldn't know since I got 6MT

[Beak]

lol yes WE KNOW you have MT hahah... thanks

[DAAN.]

is MT better ?

[BamaCoupe]

Yes your car should be faster with the traction control off. Don't know how ours is setup, but most traction control system's work by applying the brakes or reducing throttle opening when the car senses slippage or loss of traction. As for mcheddadi; unless I planned to boost in the future I wouldn't take your manual trans any day over a good auto trans, which I wouldn't classify the CVT a good auto trans. Not saying you're not a good driver mcheddadi; I would have no idea, but a manual trans is only faster then an automatic if the driver of the manual was dang near as good as a professional driver (someone how test drives or races for a living). Not to sound like a butt, but I would say probably less then 15% of the users here with a manual can actually drive a manual good enough to make a difference. Good example; I used to have a 90 300ZX with an automatic trans, my brother had a 90 300ZX with a manual and one of my friends step dad had a 91 300ZX with the manual trans and my car would smoke both of their cars. Was mine really faster; probably not, they both probably just are not good enough with a manual to make the difference. The only thing the manual has over an automatic is less power restraint. Yes there are for instances like the Z32TT (90-96 300ZX TT); were Nissan used a crappy automatic transmission, so the Manual models produced 300hp, but the automatics only come in at 280 hp. Nissan reduced the power on Automatic models by 20hp so the transmission would hold up, so yes the manual would smoke an automatic in this case. As for our cars; same hp, same torque and weight I don't know, but I don't think it's enough difference to compensate for a driver that really doesn't know how to drive a manual and can't hit every gear perfectly. Now after saying this; no I'm not claiming to be great or even good with a manual just making a point, so let the flaming begin!

[Hussain]

I HATE traction control! worst invention ever! you would THINK it helps with traction but all it really does is kill the power. stop at a red light or stop sign or something. then when you are about to take off, floor the gas off the line and "slip" will pop up on the display and your cars throttle gets killed. its like, if I wanted to let off the gas, I'd let off the gas but obviously I dont want to. I ALWAYS turn it off when doing any kind of racing and when it rains.

[BamaCoupe]

I HATE traction control! worst invention ever! you would THINK it helps with traction but all it really does is kill the power. stop at a red light or stop sign or something. then when you are about to take off, floor the gas off the line and "slip" will pop up on the display and your cars throttle gets killed. its like, if I wanted to let off the gas, I'd let off the gas but obviously I dont want to. I ALWAYS turn it off when doing any kind of racing and when it rains.

I completely agree excepts when it rains is when I do leave it on. You would think that with our cars being FWD that the weight of the motor sitting above the wheels that are turning would be traction control enough. I hate how every time I can remember I have to turn off the TC rather then when I turn it off, it's off the next time I get in, and if I turn it on it’s on the next time I get in. I guess what I'm saying is I wish it was on a memory.

[Desire1314]

I guess what I'm saying is I wish it was on a memory.

Kinda like how we all wish we had memory seats

[maxentropy]

Only time I turn VDC off is when I wanna blow out of a stop sign or light. that doesn't happen often.

best to leave VDC on, it may one day save your life.

[Hussain]

it almost took my life! some cars were coming and I was making a right turn. I had enough distance to make it safely if I turned the corner and floored the gas. so I turn the corner and floor the gas. TCS kicks in and my car stalls in the middle of the intersection and then I have cars slamming on there breaks and honking.... TCS is the worst invention ever made in my opinion. I'd take some wheel spin over stalling out in the middle of an intersection any day.... plus if its too much wheel spin, you could ease off the gas which is all the TCS would do anyways.

[Esteban Mayer]

Quote/"/Yes your car should be faster with the traction control off. Don't know how ours is setup, but most traction control system's work by applying the brakes or reducing throttle opening when the car senses slippage or loss of traction. As for mcheddadi; unless I planned to boost in the future I wouldn't take your manual trans any day over a good auto trans, which I wouldn't classify the CVT a good auto trans. Not saying you're not a good driver mcheddadi; I would have no idea, but a manual trans is only faster then an automatic if the driver of the manual was dang near as good as a professional driver (someone how test drives or races for a living). Not to sound like a butt, but I would say probably less then 15% of the users here with a manual can actually drive a manual good enough to make a difference. Good example; I used to have a 90 300ZX with an automatic trans, my brother had a 90 300ZX with a manual and one of my friends step dad had a 91 300ZX with the manual trans and my car would smoke both of their cars. Was mine really faster; probably not, they both probably just are not good enough with a manual to make the difference. The only thing the manual has over an automatic is less power restraint. Yes there are for instances like the Z32TT (90-96 300ZX TT); were Nissan used a crappy automatic transmission, so the Manual models produced 300hp, but the automatics only come in at 280 hp. Nissan reduced the power on Automatic models by 20hp so the transmission would hold up, so yes the manual would smoke an automatic in this case. As for our cars; same hp, same torque and weight I don't know, but I don't think it's enough difference to compensate for a driver that really doesn't know how to drive a manual and can't hit every gear perfectly. Now after saying this; no I'm not claiming to be great or even good with a manual just making a point, so let the flaming begin!//Quote

I disagree..i think equally powerful cars will always have better performance with a manual... and not to say.. way more fun... i have a 6spd SE-R and have beat 3.5 coupes with CVT... i think my MT gives me the edge over them...mainly in the launch.. also i raced on 1/4 mile and won barely to a 2003 350Z auto... and a 2006 Mustang GT auto... an on other ocassion lost against the same cars but with MT.

[BlackMamba08]

it almost took my life! some cars were coming and I was making a right turn. I had enough distance to make it safely if I turned the corner and floored the gas. so I turn the corner and floor the gas. TCS kicks in and my car stalls in the middle of the intersection and then I have cars slamming on there breaks and honking.... TCS is the worst invention ever made in my opinion. I'd take some wheel spin over stalling out in the middle of an intersection any day.... plus if its too much wheel spin, you could ease off the gas which is all the TCS would do anyways.

i wouldn't say TCS almost took your life...i'd say you gambled on your own life with that one. There is no reason for you to make a right turn and floor it with cars coming through...you could always just wait... I'm sure it's not as "fun" to blast off, but I'd rather not get into an accident...

[Hussain]

was trying to get to school on time and the traffic was really bad.... i go a longer way now that saves me lots of time because it doesnt have traffic. and it wasnt a gamble because if you gamble there is a chance you could make it or not but TCS stole my chance from me so it wasnt a gamble. TCS has no purpose. anyone who needs TCS to let off of the gas for them shouldnt be driving.

I'm thinking about trying to see if there is a way to disable TCS to were its never on without having the yellow light pop up.

[DAAN.]

05 SE-R 260 bhp / most likely a 0-60 in 6.x seconds like our 3.5s

[Beak]

it also pulsates abs in the right places... so it does more that just kill throttle

[Hussain]

VDC does that, TCS just kills the throttle.

[Beak]

ohh... hmmm... maybe you are on to something with the turning off traction for good.... i think they make that for g's and z's... i thinkkk

[mcheddadi]

btw for those who want to turn off vdc or tcs for good. there is a fuse called just that under the hood. remove it and you got no more of those for ever

[Beak]

lol did not even think of that...