3/30/300 How much longer?

[Looneybomber]

So as the elusive title indicates, how much longer will we have to wait till we see 3+door cars with 30+mpg and 300+hp? And staying under $30k would be awesome, but doesn't go along with the "+" theme since that would be a "-".

The focus ST is getting close: seating for 4, $24k base/30k loaded, but only 250hp.
If the Dodge Dart SRT4 comes out, it'll be even closer (around 280hp), but still not quite there yet.

So do you think it'll be 2 more yrs? 4 more?

[RCA]

What if instead of 300hp, we use tq.

Electric cars will be able to beat that as long as you can replace the HP metric with something else.

[Looneybomber]

Nevermind. 2013 BMW 535i sedan. 30mpg, 300hp, 4doors. Base price, 53k.

[WDRacing]

Man, if my wifes Dart had 300hp...I'd make her drive the Bimmer

[Looneybomber]

Man, if my wifes Dart had 300hp...I'd make her drive the Bimmer

You guys have a new dart? How do you guys like it?
I'm looking at smaller/cheaper cars with the 3/30/300 accomplishment, but a dart SRT-4 would be pretty close. Think I could put a couple car seats in the back?

[WDRacing]

I have 2 car seats in the back of ours. One for my 5yr old and one for the 2yr old. I really like it personally. Ours is loaded and I don't have any complaints. My wife is deployed so I've been driving it for 5 weeks now instead of the BMW. Stereo is awesome, remote start, heated steering wheel, heated front seats and 8 inches of kickass display make for a good experience.

Drive one.

[float_6969]

I really like them asthetically. I think they're going to be a hit. I hope they are, Chrysler could use the money...

[MinisterofDOOM]

While I would never buy one, it would certainly be nice to see a sporty compact that's not cheap-as-Hell for once. Evos and SRT Neons make my build-quality and fit-and-finish senses cry out in terror like the citizens of Alderan upon its destruction by the Death Star. I don't have much experience with the new Dart, but I think the Focus has a DAMN good chance to pulling it off. Supposedly, the new RS will have a turbo 2.3 making 350hp (!!!!). It'll be FWD rather than stupid heavy halfa$$ AWD nonsense. It'll also probably at least offer the option of a clutch since the dual clutch trans that has replaced automatics in the rest of the Focus line is heavier than a lever-shifted box.

[WDRacing]

Alderon...LOL. That was excellent! Ford mytouch is awful. The good Focus is only available in manual, that's a deal breaker for my wife. The non turbo Focus is...well a non turbo focus with bad tech.

I like my Dart. Brand new loaded with a 100k bumper to bumper for $24,000.