2jz-gte swap

Post by **Turbosilvia** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

anyone heard of swaping a supra motor into a 240? if so could you give me some info on this

Post by **themadscientist** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

It's been done, I would say talk to a shop that works on a lot of Supas as wiring up the engine will likely be the biggest problem.

Post by **mike_do** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

wanna be creative??? put 2 sr20det's in a 240 like that hyundai on SCC except it had a diff engine... =]

Post by **ellinikomangas** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

It could be done, only problem is that most cars chassis cant handle the engine at least thats what I keep getting told.

Post by **GTR-33** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

It has been done. Why whould you do it though? I can only see one reason, you get to keep the stock twins as the turbos are on the pass. side, but I'm guessing you would have to run a stand-alone to run the 2JZ... Wireing nightmare. Its a PITA just to put the 2JZGTE in the Altezza (IS300) or the Soarer (SC300) and both cars have a 2JZ in them already. You would be alot better off IMHO with an RB...

TWO SRs? someone must have forgotten about how these motors are mounted... Unless you actually want to spend the money to custom mount a couple transverse SR20DETs (or VETs). Then you might as well do it on a Sentra....

Post by **revhard05** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

mhhhhhhhh sounds crazy

Post by **rogue** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

I have a Thai magazine at home that has 3 or 4 pages of somone who put a Twin Turbo Supra engine in his s13 hatch. It looks insane. If you want crazy custom parts or cheap prices, go to Thailand.

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

i was quoted by rollhard perfomance a while ago and the 2JZ swap is cheaper than getting a rb25 installed. And its a legal engine in the states...

Post by **Nils** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

http://members.blackplanet.com/osofast/

this guy used to have a 2jz in his 240.. .I think he has an rb in it now though...

n

Post by **rogue** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

J-Spec Tuner wrote:i was quoted by rollhard perfomance a while ago and the 2JZ swap is cheaper than getting a rb25 installed. And its a legal engine in the states...

Is legal in the states, true, but is it legal in that chassis?

Post by **GTR-33** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

No, it's not legal in that chassis. To be legal, it must be 1) of the manuf. as the car. ex. a Nissan plant, in a Nissan chassis. 2) it must be from the same year or newer.

There is no way that a 2JZGTE will be cheaper than a RB25DET. The 2JZ itself cost hella more than the RB25. not to mention customs parts to make it work. 2JZ is at least a 8K-10K swap..

Post by **Onizuka** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

i was quoted about 7K for the swap

3500 for a used 2JZ and 3000 for labor and installation. im not sure about the rb25 installation but its still a good price for a engine that is as good as the rb26.

Post by **S15_silvia** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

speaking of legal? is it true that the SR20DET isnt legal in the states? i mean i can get around it regaurdless i could do the supra swap and get it legal hehe i have connections but anyways i was just curious

Post by **SpeedRacer1** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

The engine is not on the EPA's list of approved engines/cars to import into this country. So it is illegal, though so far California seems to be the only state where they might care.

Post by **curbsurfer** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

i have a single turboed 2jz sitting in my garage. i was going to put it in my 240 and take a pic. thought it would be an interesting conversation piece. i wasnt going to actually "swap" the motor though.

Post by **Nils** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

curbsurfer wrote:i have a single turboed 2jz sitting in my garage. i was going to put it in my 240 and take a pic. thought it would be an interesting conversation piece. i wasnt going to actually "swap" the motor though.

what are you putting it in? mkiv?

n

Post by **BuudWeizErr** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

If that is who I'm thinking it is (Cullen?), he has put it in a MKIII. I was talking to him about it, because he yelled at me as I was reaching to touch his turbo

Post by **curbsurfer** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

dont spin the turbo! haha

yeah its me, cullen. it was in my mkiii, then i pulled it out of the car for a color change(paint job)

Post by **curbsurfer** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

hey nils, i want to be the first mkiii in to4r.com greddyt88 kit, aem engine management, hks 272's, etc.will dyno it when i get it out of paint jail

Post by **Nils** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

curbsurfer wrote:hey nils, i want to be the first mkiii in to4r.com greddyt88 kit, aem engine management, hks 272's, etc.will dyno it when i get it out of paint jail

Cullen,Sounds great... Email me pics when you are done.

Did you ever see Mike Urbano's MK3?

n

Post by **curbsurfer** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

yeah, i saw mike's mk3 when he had the 2jz. i bought some tein's and an hks exhaust manifold from him a year ago. cool guy.

Post by **jmillheiser** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

i would think that the RB25 would be cheaper.

and ive herd that the RBs are much stronger than the 2JZ.

from what ive herd about the 2JZs you need to upgrade the internals to make much more than 400hp. supposedly all you need to do to an RB25 is drop the compression ratio and it will be able to handle 500+hp and an RB26 can make 600hp on stock internals

Post by **Nils** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

jmillheiser wrote:i would think that the RB25 would be cheaper.

and ive herd that the RBs are much stronger than the 2JZ.

from what ive herd about the 2JZs you need to upgrade the internals to make much more than 400hp. supposedly all you need to do to an RB25 is drop the compression ratio and it will be able to handle 500+hp and an RB26 can make 600hp on stock internals

lol.... you heard wrong.

Figure out the facts before posting misleading messages. I had a 790bhp 2JZ-GTE with no internals at all, stock bottom end. Boosting 1.7 - 2 bar daily and put over 30k miles on the engine. I know of atleast 30 friends who make well over 700bhp on a 2JZ-GTE with no internals. It is a well know fact in the car industry that the 2JZ-GTE can produce mind bogging HP numbers before you even need to open up the bottom end.

S.W. in Austin TX put down 804 rwhp (Dynojet), circa 945 hp @ flywheel / 9.81 @ 153.58 mph on engine still unopened / factory internals.

next time... before posting... do some research.

n

Post by **curbsurfer** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

thats the funniest thing ive heard in while.

please check nils' site for some knowledge.http://www.to4r.com

Post by **GTR-33** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

Isn't great when people post something and have no idea what they are talking about. 2JZ only holds 400 on stock bottom end... :alcoholic

Nils is right, the 2JZ in well known for its strength. You don't even need to open it up in most cases until you start hitting 800 RWHP. Then IMO you might start hitting some reliability issues... I don't know how long stock rods can take 2.0+ bar of boost without bending..

Post by **Dori Dori** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

RB's and 2JZ's are both known for their ability to produce massive amounts of power with little or no internal work. With aftermarket internals, Supra's and Skylines can both produce over 1000hp. The highest output 2JZ I've ever heard of was in the 1100's and the highest output RB26 I've ever heard of was in the 1300's. What does that tell you? Probably nothing since the Skyline is more popular world wide than the Supra so tuners are more willing to spend more time and money with the RB26 b/c of that. Saying one is better than the other will cause every supra owner on the net to reply here and cause every skyline fanboy on the net to do the same. They are both awesome I6 powerhouses! Lets just leave it at that!

Post by **GTR-33** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

The most powerfull 2JZs I have seen are the Bullish ones... They make over 1400HP The most powerfull RB I have seen was in the 1400+HP range as well. It was an R33 with HKS twins... It made some 1350 AWHP!

On a side note... Nils great site. I'll give you 2k for the 'T'! I saw that you have your MKIV for sale on there... I that what the RIP means or was it wrecked before you could sell it? Awesome car BTW.

Post by **Dori Dori** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

Ok, so my #'s were low.:-\

Where can I see some of these 1400hp monsters!?!

Post by **Dori Dori** » Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:17 pm

OK, I checked out the bullish racing website. That car is nuts!

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