28oHP G35 vs 245HP Altima

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i was just wondering how a 245hp altima is rated at 14.7 1/4 times (with 5spd) and the G35 coupe which is rated at 28ohp and has RWD advantage as well as a 6spd is hitting 1/4 of 14.3 or so. Is it just me, or does that seem like an awfully small gap for the HP diference and tranny as well as drivewheel difference?, the reason i ask this, is i raced a g35 auto coupe this weekend, from 6omph-1oo, and he easily had me, but it wasnt half as bad as i thought. The leather 6spd MT model weighs 3,435 lbs, and the max'd out altima weighs 3361lbs, so how is it that close?


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ok, do people just have a strong hated against the altima section of NICO or is it just me, on one has an input on this?

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You were right when you said that no1 ever comes here. Damn this is pitiful. Just thought Id pay you a visit.

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The answer to your question would have to be power to weight ratio... even if it is only 100 pounds... that still makes a diference... and it could be gearing also but i dont think so cause it's a 5sp agianst a 6sp... it must be power to weight ratio

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I am sure the closer gear rations play into effect as well. I think that the power to weight ratio is what makes the biggest difference since there is virtually little parasitic drive train loss in both cars.

The G35 that beat you (which is a different issue all together) in a race at 60mph did so because it makes a heck of a lot more torque and horsepower than you. He had more torque to move his car at speed than you did. He can also keep his car in its powerband better since he is rolling with a manual tranmission.

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The car he raced was an auto, Bud. But the same reasoning goes for the auto as well.

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well yea ,i wasnt questioning my loss, but the difference is minimal when the 35hp and RWD vs FWD 5spd vs 6spd with a 1/4 diference of only .4 seconds, shouldnt it be more? thats all i was asking, and thanks guys for actually coming to visit me (in my cell :rolleyes )

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My first paragraph is in answer to Rob's question about a 3.5 Altima (5spd) vs. a G35 Coupe (6spd).

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it was an explanation, but it still doesnt seem like enough, the G should kill the altima with that 35 additional HP and RWD, or so it seems, i dunno, atleast i got someone other than me to post here, so im happy, you guys dont have to come back to this thread, but roam around here! pleeeease

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Ill try to pay you a visit every once and a while.

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THATS the spirit guys, actually, when i first joined around feb or so, this section was booming, as i wanted to learn so much so quickly, and Bud and Dane mostly were here to answer my questions. Not to mention, Rev, and all the other guys here, it was basically 5 or 6 guys that ran this part of hte forum, but Bud has his WRX to tend to, and Dane's usually in the spec V section, however, Fred checks in every now and then, we just need more altima guys

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To answer your question Rob, look up how much power each car makes to the wheels. Then you need to evaluate the power to weight ratio between the two. How well a car fairs in the 1/4 mi is not an easy formual. I would think that the gear ratios and the torque ratings would also play into effect.

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well of course tehy do, but the G has better power to weight ratio, and better gearing, so it just doesnt make sense to me that it can't beat the FWD altima by a lil more than that, what im asking is, do u think the G really puts out 28ohp , or maybe the altima puts out more than 245?

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I have every confidence that the G puts out 280hp and the Altima puts out 245 at the crank. Drive line losses are what you are questioning. Maybe we need to do some research?

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G35http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars...mance

Altimahttp://autos.yahoo.com/newcars...mance

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fastest times of 14.2 compared to 14.4, doesnt seem like a 35 hp diference to me, imagine an altima with a 35 shot of nitrous, thats good for atleast .4 off an ET right?

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nlzmo400r wrote:i was just wondering how a 245hp altima is rated at 14.7 1/4 times (with 5spd) and the G35 coupe which is rated at 28ohp and has RWD advantage as well as a 6spd is hitting 1/4 of 14.3 or so. Is it just me, or does that seem like an awfully small gap for the HP diference and tranny as well as drivewheel difference?, the reason i ask this, is i raced a g35 auto coupe this weekend, from 6omph-1oo, and he easily had me, but it wasnt half as bad as i thought. The leather 6spd MT model weighs 3,435 lbs, and the max'd out altima weighs 3361lbs, so how is it that close?
And the 240 hp Altima is evern faster yet

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2105.shtml

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i've raced a g35 04 auto , against my 06 altima 3.5 auto , i won by a 3/4-1 length 0-120 mph .

whats up willy ^^

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Its the transmission. The G35 is luxury, the shift points are probably different and programmed to shift much smoother than the Altima. If you were both using manual mode, then it was a drivers race.

I've wooped my friend's G35 sedan because he chickened out. ....then my other friend took away my glory of beating a more expensive car with a V6 by kicking my *** with a honda (civic SI).

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5 year old bump FTL

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Blah, I give up on this place.

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spike228 wrote:Blah, I give up on this place.
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