240sxs in Washinton State

[Gregariousgreg]

Hey,

Any of you guys live in Washington state? If so, you know anywhere I can get a hold of a 240sx with a blown engine and a descent body for an engine swap. Also, if any of you 'round here have done one, could you direct me to inspection and emmition's shops that are <cough> able to be paid off <cough>. Or maybe someone has found some legal loopholes I haven't thought of. Thanks much. :help

[SpeedRacer1]

I doubt you'll be able to bribe anyone in our state. I got mine to pass through a waiver but that was luck. You should be able to pass if your SR is tuned remotely properly. There are no real loopholes other than registering your car to a po box out of the emissions areas.

[Gregariousgreg]

I've heard they do visual checks of the engine during emissions tests in some states, but they just test you with a tail-pipe sensor here don't they? The SR20 is a pretty clean running motor anyway isn't it?

[SpeedRacer1]

There is no visual check in this state. Just CO at idle and 25mph and HCL at idle and 25mph. Also a gas cap test. Its not the cleanest, but by no means is it a gross pollutant, I barely failed for many reasons. And when I say barely im talking hundreths of a percent. Luckily when I got my waiver they didnt check my engine even though they were supposed to.

[Gregariousgreg]

Thanks, guess I'll just tune it carefully. Did you use any fuel additives to help out your emissions rating?

[SpeedRacer1]

No mine was super messed up. Bad plugs, exhaust leaks, misfiring, broken TPS, no EGR, no cat(on the first run but I barely failed). There were some other problems that I cant remember. Nevertheless I honostly was off be and extremely small amount of CO at idle. I had 13% on my first run (with the state max being 12%). On my second and third even after I added the cat I only dropped to like 12.3% and 12.5%.

You could just go to the Northwest Nissan Meet in at golden gardens in seattle on sat. There should be at least 3 or 4 SR's there where you can talk about emissions etc...There arent too many SR owners from WA on this board though I can think of about 6 off the top of my head with SR's in WA.

[Gregariousgreg]

Cool, thanks.

Wish I could make it to the meet but I'm in Ellensburg, I go to Central Washington University and next week is finals so I gotta stick around. But I'm still looking for a body for the swap, so I got some time.

[Ace]

No emmissions in Skagit county. I would recommend registering it in a PO box in Skagit county or a county with no emmissions like Speedracer1 said.

PS can't wait to see your SR on Saturady SpeedRacer1. Later

[Holisticbeatz]

Just go to some back alley smog inspection station and flash $200 and you got yourself a smog ok car. Just have a friend with a non SR motor do the test in your cars place.

[DonDonati88]

Thanks guys for posting all this information. So that if the depart. of EPA decides to do reasearch on engine swaps and they're legality, in the future, they'll find all your beautiful posts on you're illegal activites then track you down.

[Ace]

So your going to blame me for this Don. Look throughout this whole site and you can find tons of illegal ways to get around emmissions. Don't start blaming me because I made one post. Swapping to a SR is illegal. Then maybe they will hunt us all down. Don't start acting like it my fault or SpeedRacer1s fault.:rolleyes

[DonDonati88]

Yeah you're right. Did you ever get your swap done? Can I see a pic of your car?

[Ace]

Yeah the swap is done. Look at this thread for pics.http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....13710

[Gregariousgreg]

Any of you guys know where I can get an 89-94 with a blown engine and a descent body for around $500. Needs to have a clear title and be in the Seattle area (I'll trailer it). Prefferably with five speed and LSD. Looking to buy at about June this year. Thank ya.

[Ace]

You would have a hard time finding one for that cheap with a 5sp and a LSD. You will need to pay more than that. Especially with how popular 240s are getting.

[amaizenblue]

I have been asking around about emissions in Washington recently, and this is what I found out other than what has been said here already: A friend of a friend took his 96 integra LS into emissions with a GSR swap. Being OBDII they tried to hook it up to the computer, and it didn't work. They basically just told him to get that looked at, as it will be beneficial for mechanics to work on his car, and they did a smog test the "old fashioned" way. Never opened the hood, and he passed. Don't know if you can count on that on a regular basis, though. Obviously, if you get a '95 or earlier, you won't have to worry about the computer test, anyway. Next, occasionally they can't pick up the RPMs properly with the sensor on top of the hood, so they have to open up the hood to do it. Obviously in that situation they'd see your engine, but even then you'd have to have somebody checking you who knows that it is the wrong engine for your car. I suggest just going with a PO Box or a relative/friend's address in a non-smogged county.

They don't even have emissions in Ellensburg, do they? You planning on going somewhere after school that does? I went to Central for 2 terms. Hated it there. ;-P

[SpeedRacer1]

They dont have any emissions in Ellensburg but his home is in Edmonds. Usually if the computer port for the OBDII doesnt work then they just plug a sensor into the cigarette lighter. It will be able to tell RPM's by the voltage, much like a shift lamp works. Then they just get on the rollers and run it to 25 MPH.

Heres an a piece I typed about 6 months ago on emissions in WA (if anyone ever tried to search): http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....ngton

Here are the juicy details."The Emission Check Program tests factory-installed emission control systems on motor vehicles. It is required by law in urban areas of Clark, King, Pierce, Snohomish and Spokane counties because they have experienced problems meeting air quality standards for motor vehicle-related air pollutants."

"How often does my vehicle need to be tested? Gasoline and diesel vehicles at least five years old and up to 25 years old need an Emission Check every other year. Your registration renewal notice will tell you if your vehicle needs a test. "

"Are there other times when my vehicle needs to be tested? Yes. It needs to be tested when you transfer the ownership to a new owner. However, if the transfer is between immediate family members or between co-owners, the test is unnecessary.

Another time you may need to test is when an out-of-state vehicle is brought into one of the emission test areas -- Clark, King, Pierce, Snohomish, or Spokane Counties. We test those vehicles according to the year, as shown in the chart above."

These are excerpts from the Dept of Ecology website about emissions testing, I have no idea how your family hasnt been getting tested. Nearly everyone in King County lives in a city with 10000 or more people, and that isnt a law in any books so your friend is wrong. Though I suppose if you dont live in one of these Zip codes you arent required to take it http://www.leg.wa.gov/wac/inde...2-050 .

The website to look for all your emissions info is http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/air/emis-1.html

[propain]

Anyone have more information on the meet on saturday? - i.e. what time, etc..?

[Ace]

Go to http://www.northwestnissans.com for the in depth info. But 11:00 AM at Golden Gardens park in Seattle. Rain or shine.

[Gregariousgreg]

Sweetness. I found a 90 240sx for 500 bucks in enumclaw. Time to start fixin her up. I might be able to register it to my uncle's adress in Skagit, then I might not have to take an emissions test. If not, I'll just tune the engine carefully, that'll be a while though. I'm gunna fix up the body and suspension before I get an engine. Which Sr20 do you guys reccomend, the redtop, blacktop or s15 black top? Which ones best bang fro the buck?

[robyc]

depending on what you plan on doing, if you plan on leaving the sr20 with the stock turbo and build from there, it is better to go with the newer ones, (s15 blacktop), but if you plan on swaping out the stock turbo and cooler and such for a bigger system it is more cost effective and better overall to go with the s13 redtop. oh, and since it is a '90 240sx i don't think you'll have a LSD, so that is something you will want to get for the swap, (also make sure to get the drive shaft) and these can be found on other 240sx's or 300zx, a good place to find one is in canada, since all those came with LSD.

I am also looking for a 240SX in the northwest area, as i also live in Washington, but am i'm looking specifically for a 91.

:jump

[Gregariousgreg]

Thanks for the tips. I think I'll go with the newer engine. I read somewhere that the s15 turbos can be turned up to a pretty good boost level, plus the block will be fresher. I'll probably spend money on getting stronger internals and a good intercooler. Then I'll just run the stock turbo fairly high boost. When it dies i'll upgrade. Anybody got suggestions on a good bang for your buck turbo kit?

[Ace]

Why get a S15 if your going to get stronger internals. Plus S15 motors cost a lot. Trust me you'll be happier with a S13. I was thinking the way you were at one time. Trust me don't get a S15 motor.

[Gregariousgreg]

Good point. I noticed you have a black top, any reason why you chose that over a red top. Just probable milage?

[Ace]

I wanted to get as nice of a S13 engine as possible so I said I'll pay an extra couple hundred for a Blacktop. A bit newer is the main reason.

[Gregariousgreg]

Ok, cool, that's what I was guessing. Where did you get yours? So far I've been looking mainly at afterdarktuning.com and srswap.com.

[SpeedRacer1]

There are tons of engine providers here in the US. A couple more are: http://www.sr20store.com/ http://www.mckinneymotorsports.com/sale ... x.htmThere is also Nelshin (sp?) that I never added to my favorites.

[Gregariousgreg]

Which engine provider do you guys think is the best? Considering engine mileage, included parts, cost, warranty etc.

[Ace]

I went through Heavy Throttle and I recieved nothing but the best quality parts. I would highly recommend them. But SpeedRacers list is a good one as well.