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building my 240sx s13 into a drifter. i have everything engine wise. but now i realize its not just the engine to upgrade its everything else as well. so im in need of a list of everything none engine wise that i would need to upgrade for drifting. this car is gonna b a track/dd car but mainly track. any help please. idc about price im willing to take the time for saving up before i buy. :dblthumb:


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Make sure you determine what you want the purpose to be. You can take your set up a lot of different ways depending on whether you want to track or daily drive. Basically most of your suspension will need to be upgraded. Coilovers, RUCAS, sway bars, etc. If you're serious you'll need to upgrade your diff - welded and vlsd are the most common upgrades from stock (open). You have a lot of research to do. Just read through the build threads on here (there's a list under the Ultimate Sticky) and look at what aftermaket options are offered online. What you want is adjustability. Just out of curiosity, what do you have engine wise?

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alright thanks. and i have an sr20det. stage two upgrades. i might upgrade my turbo but idk what to get. still looking at that part.

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i was looking on amazon for an ebrake drift button and came upon a lot of suspension stuff like control arms, sway bars, coil overs, and some recaro seats too. plenty of stuff all by godspeed which ive heard godspeed is pretty good for its quality but ive never heard opinion from someone with godspeed materials. price came out to 1582.62 for everything. but idk if i should be trusting amazon for all of that stuff. but i also wanna make sure i get really reliable upgrades that wont break on me so easily. theres a drift track in monroe, wa called speedway. i go there every chance i have for the drift and car show events. which is usually every weekend to two weeks. i love that place. and cant wait to get my car out there. im working on saving up for a simple rool cage as well. but first i figured i might aas well upgrade everything before i cage the car. plus im starting from stock with the whole car. so money wise ill be good on i work in the navy and im always finding new ways to save up more money then the last paycheck and right now in a month im looking at 1200 of saving. so i figure if i give at least 5 months to 7 months of saving i can afford to get the car to straight track only. adn buy myself a new project car.

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Amazon probably isn't your best bet. There are a fair amount of reviews on Godspeed stuff. It has a bad rap because it's cheap stuff but if I remember right, some people were getting good use out of it. Idk man. Check out the sponsors on the side of the page and search for reviews on parts.

Relentless_guy.com
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Yeah that's y I've been asking around..I found a website called enjukuracing...has lots of parts for specific engines and many other parts..I believe it's a website made to get u started on drifting ...hence the word racing...but I may jus keep looking around it's gonna b a real long time before I am ready to spend the money any ways

TheRoadShark
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EnjukuRacing is legit :dblthumb: They're a speed shop in Orlando FL, and I believe they're a NICO sponsor as well. Ken @ Enjuku is a great guy and is all about customer service. Like 90% of the parts on my 240 came from there.
Relentless_guy.com wrote:alright thanks. and i have an sr20det. stage two upgrades. i might upgrade my turbo but idk what to get. still looking at that part.
What exactly is included in "stage 2 upgrades"? Vague need-for-speed term is vague...

As far as GodSpeed goes, eh, they're probably ok for simple things like radiators or intercoolers or basic suspension stuff, but I don't know that I'd trust their coilovers or turbos or anything complex. I've noticed that their stuff mainly shows up on ebay, and hardly ever (never) show up at places like enjukuracing or rawbrokerage or frsport - reputable speed shops and parts suppliers :gotme

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Posts like these just piss me off. 45 seconds ill never get back. Stage 2 upgrade? Are we being serious right now? What is this a forza forum? Yeah just saved up 500 credits to upgrade my zonda to stage two. Yeah yeah I'll definantly beat the hess express at laguna seca tomorrow after my mom cooks me breakfast oh I can't wait to eat from my spiderman bowl.

Dude I don't even think google can help you right now

Stage two... Lmfao

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Oi...enjuku isn't meant to get people started in drifting. They were in business a long time before drifting became a fad.

You want to go destroy a car, hit google and start researching techniques and the quality of different manufacturers for parts.

I'll leave the thread open for now, but if it looks like the flaming gets out of hand, I'll shut it down before you upgrade to "stage 3" or whatever.

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waxdnuggz wrote:Posts like these just piss me off. 45 seconds ill never get back. Stage 2 upgrade? Are we being serious right now? What is this a forza forum? Yeah just saved up 500 credits to upgrade my zonda to stage two. Yeah yeah I'll definantly beat the hess express at laguna seca tomorrow after my mom cooks me breakfast oh I can't wait to eat from my spiderman bowl.

Dude I don't even think google can help you right now

Stage two... Lmfao
Oh come on, cut the guy some slack - we're all noobs at some point. Besides, that's a pretty ironic comment from someone who seems to be building their car in their parent's barn :rolleyes:

For all we know, he actually does have all the engine parts that correspond to a "stage 2" upgrade from (insert game here) - and performance clutches *do* use the stage X naming convention :gotme and maybe he just doesn't know any better and thinks thats how upgrades are actually referred to.

How about educating him rather than flaming him. Y so angry?
Hijacker wrote:I'll leave the thread open for now, but if it looks like the flaming gets out of hand, I'll shut it down before you upgrade to "stage 3" or whatever.
:rotfl

@ OP - Seriously, forget all the hype and games and movies and do some research, find out what the sport of drifting is really like. It was a bad sign from jump that you went from "money is no issue" to "so how's godspeed?" Don't take it too hard, but really, educate thyself on le drift :dblthumb:

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your right i hate when people flame hard I shouldnt be that guy. But c'mon now. most speed shops that support out style of cars have about the same products. the price may change by pennies. find a shop closest to you (lower shipping time and cost) and go with them.

i personally dont drift and probably will never enter my car into an event, i love watching them but i work too hard on my car to destroy it, and money IS a factor.

You need torque and suspension to have a good drift setup. never go with a part that is mostly sold on ebay. your just asking for it. Is this going to be a mostly track car? if so your first step is stripping the interior and relocating the battery. its damn near free (aside from the parts to move the battery) next decide on an engine setup (if your staying sr then look into supporting parts to withstand long high revs (rocker stoppers, oil system, and cooling. (alum rad, electric fans with a switch so you can have them running while sideways and no air it naturally flowing thru the rad.

your next area is your suspension. you want a good set of coils usually an 8/10k rate or around there. do some research on a drift suspension setup and learn why things are what they are. also your gonna want a lsd or welded diff but s*** if money isnt an option then get a 2way lsd cusco or equiv. next is brakes, most likely a hydro ebrake

dont forget the cage a good quality seat and a in date harness.

sorry for the flaming ill turn it down a notch but pllleeeaaassseee do everyone a favor and start reading before you post. you should only post if you cant find a answer after HOURS AND HOURS of research.

again my appologies. im here if you need me.

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TheRoadShark wrote:
waxdnuggz wrote:Posts like these just piss me off. 45 seconds ill never get back. Stage 2 upgrade? Are we being serious right now? What is this a forza forum? Yeah just saved up 500 credits to upgrade my zonda to stage two. Yeah yeah I'll definantly beat the hess express at laguna seca tomorrow after my mom cooks me breakfast oh I can't wait to eat from my spiderman bowl.

Dude I don't even think google can help you right now

Stage two... Lmfao
Oh come on, cut the guy some slack - we're all noobs at some point. Besides, that's a pretty ironic comment from someone who seems to be building their car in their parent's barn :rolleyes:



not quite sure whos building a car in there parents barn here??

TheRoadShark
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@OP - It is entirely possible to drift in a nearly stock 240. If you seriously want to learn to drift, get a decent LSD or weld your diff, refresh your suspension, and use the extra money on tires, fuel, and track time. Start simple, build some skills, gain some experience. Do some ride-alongs with experienced drifters if possible. THEN start hosing money at mods. As you get better you'll start to notice where the car's weaknesses are. Then you'll know what needs upgrading. As a reckless amateur, that's the best suggestion I can make. When starting out, the weak link is usualy the driver, not the car. All the parts in the world can't make a rookie into a drift king - but enough skill and experience can let a good enough driver make almost any decent car fly around corners.

Since you already have the SR20, go ahead and build that and drop it in if you want - you can still drive your car in the meantime while you build the SR. I'd still like to know what "stage 2" parts you have...?

As for other parts - like hijacker said, read up on parts manufacturers, and see who gets good reviews and who doesn't. There's no shortage of suppliers - enjukuracing, rawbrokerage, phase2motortrend, drifttough, frsport, etc - and they all carry a variety of parts and brands. Also read up on which parts will have what effect on the car.

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Alright no hard feelings I understand y ppl get mad..and yes I am freshly new to all this but I definitely have found the sport amazing and fun as he'll...now for stage two I'm not exactly 100% sure what is in the engine I'm just going based off what an buddy is telling me since his uncle got me everything from Japan he works on a boat that goes back and forth to Japan..I know that I have upgraded clutch, pistons, camshafts,gears, and that's all I can remember ...I already know my mistake was havin him help me when I'm realizing he doesn't even know why he's taking about either..so I'm starting off from base one which is gettin to know everything about building a drift car..might as well right..and thanks for all the help I try and do research but being in the military and then working nights is getting really hard for holding any kind of life..I literally don't he time to myself or my family until the weekends which really six..but I think for now I'm going to study everything about building a drift car..and much more decide if I want this car to b track only or street show off type whatever..

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Well I did a quick research for a good set up suspension wise.was very clear suspension is where it's at for drifting..and the if u want good response the to get a good if not best set of coil overs..and then not to lower the car too much as it messes wht the suspension geometry..and stiffer the stock bushings in front and rear make for a good drift feel..stiff in rear makes eat to get into drift and control and stiff in front makes for sharper angles..so I'm going to start off there..get me a really good set of coilovers..may look at the apexi n1 coilovers..I've heard those r pretty good..then I'm going to look Ito the bushings..after that I'm going to do some research whenever I find the time on what's more recommended brand wise for control arms..away bars..and all that good stuff..then look into the diff and all that..I now realize I have a lot more to learn and do before I can just take my car out there and try to drift in rain..

TheRoadShark
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No worries - like I said, we're all noobs at some point - way I figure, we're all allowed a few goofy don't-know-better questions when we start out. That's how we learn, right? The difference is whether we listen to the feedback given to us, or stay in "tokyo drift" mode and end up sliding into curbs and ruining cars. Sure, we may clown people a little when they say something silly, but there's no reason to just shred them out of hand for not-knowing. It's when they don't listen and keep that fast-furious-need-for-speed mentality that there's a problem. Keep learning and you should be alright :bigthumb:

Again, especially in the rain, it's definitely possible to slide a stock 240. If you're gonna do it on the street tho, try to find an empty lot to do it in or something. Thrashing your own car is bad enough, but crunching into someone else is way worse.

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Already shark. You've poked the bear enough. Waxd, you don't have anything to prove. You're far better than to feed the troll anymore. Take it to PMs and let's leave this thread back on topic.

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People will say a 240sx will drift stock which is true. But if you upgrade it before hand then you will learn a lot quicker. Getting power to the wheels will allow the cars a** to break free easier resulting in the ability to enter a less steep curve and go slower. A good suspension setup will allow the forward movement while sliding that drifting requires. Its not just about sliding the a** of the car its about having control and you still need the car to push forward while sliding sideways. At very least before you try to slide get a set of lowering springs to lower your center of gravity and a good set of rear brake pads. Thats a good starting point and search cl for a few sets of drift spares. Look with every word combo (ie. 4x114, 4x114.3, four lug, 4 lug, 4x4.5, ect) look for the deals there out there and start stocking up wheels


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