240sx or saab 9000 turbo?

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I am deciding if i want a saab 9000 turbo 225 hp or my 90 240sx? Im leaning towards the leather turbocharged 4 door 5 speed. Handles pretty well for a 4 door fwd. Im just sick of fixing my car on avarage once a month. And there is no way i can make it as fast as the saab for under 4,000 the cost of the saab. what you guys think.


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why is the saab only 4000? is that the down payment?

still a fwd, my s13 is much slower than my integra but I think I can do better on turns with s13

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from my experience, saabs are also pretty high maintenence. My dad has owned a few saabs, an 89 and a 95, both he eventually sold cause it was nearly impossible to get parts and they broke all the time. Seemed like one thing after another near the end. The only way he could even get parts was from a local saab fanatic who had a bunch of junked ones in his yard. he sold his 95 one day when the power steering pump went out and he just pulled into a car dealership, they quoted him some huge amount, and he just drove out with another car. anyway, that is my $.02.

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Go with the 240, then again, maybe you SHOULD get the saab, that way you can just give me the 240 as payment for my advice. lol

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Go with the 240. A NEW Saab would be a nice car to drive. A 9000 is one of the older models from what I understand. Someone else pointed out that it was hard to get parts. That is very true. Saabs are nearly as expensive as BMWs to fix, simply because they are relatively uncommon.

You'll have a better ownership experience with a 240. You are right though, it won't go nearly as fast as the Saab. However, it will in all likelyhood, keep going longer than the Saab and be more tolerant of a heavy foot.

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The only way to keep repairs low on old European cars... is to not drive them.

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SOHC90adel, no one can answer this question but you. You must search from within your soul and ask yourself: Do I want a quirky, front-drive, turbocharged, torque steering, front end plowing, expensive to maintain, Swedish brick of a sedan: albeit a comfortable one with room for five and luxurious amenities. Or, do I want to keep my rear-drive, light, nimble,mildly underpowered, yet has massive potential, an endless aftermarket, inexpesive to maintain at the stock level, lowend Japanese sportscar?

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Why is it that i sense a little favoritism in your post dauer. lol. seems like you would go with a 240 anytime, which is kool by me.

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Guilty as charged. Although as far as favoritism, that was a completely inbiased post. :)

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240 for sure.

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i knew you guys would choose 240, i love my 240 but cmon honestly, its not that hard to find parts for the saab there is a site just like this one for saabs, and 4 grand for the car i am planning on getting is a steal. One owner, leather seats, turbo, 4 doors, way more gas efficient, sunroof that actually opens all the way. and many more things that i cant remember. Friend is selling it to me since he is moving. We will see what happens. im just to big for the 240 5'11" 250 lbs. I just see myself getting a c4 corvette if i really want rear wheel drive performance and handling. My dad has one and it is 1,000,000,000 times better in every which way than the 240. Im sorry guys i think im already convinced. Maybe its because i have done so much to my 240sx and it constantly lets me down. Or maybe because i know the saab has been treated so well that for 4 grand i cant pass this up? who knows? what you guys think?

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Hey adel I'll take your 240 off your hands...seriously, just park it at my grandmas house ;)

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lol. i was gonna go for the saab 9000 also, but got my 240. Why? Because I liked it better. Yeah, I know, this reply doesn't help at all. HHAHA

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Well, if you're looking for comfortable cruising for the family, good straight line grunt, and the price is right then the Saab seems like the obvious choice. Although can you really expect to get any other answer than you recieved when you posted such a question on a 240 forum. I mean really. Also, why a C4 vette when the C5 is about 1,000,000,000 times better than it's predesessor. Shyt, never mind the C5, go farking crazy and get the upcoming C6, now I know that's a stretch, but I was on a roll. Also in regards to the C4 being superior to the 240 you may have to be a little more specific when making such a claim. No doubt in stock guise a vette would be the victor given it's equipped w/ the L-88, LT-1, or the LT-4, oh yeah and lets not forget the DOHC 32-valve LT-5. On the other hand I'm afraid to say the 240 might show it's tail lights to a 1984 vette with an emissions strangled 205bhp, Well okay that may be a little optimistic, but what I'm getting at is the 240 is a great car even in stock form and half the fun is building it yourself, than handing a stern spanking to those highend sportscars for a fraction of the cost. Look at that I'm rambling again, good luck with the Saab man.

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This will be your whip?

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/357785/2

I would look for another 240 before looking to SAAB. You might be getting a great deal, but look past that. I can vouch for the repairs. The cars were not built well.

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i knew everyone was gonna shoot me down, i just wanted to see the reasons everybody would give me. The saab 9000 is a 93 which is 3 years younger than my 240. Im sick of working on my 240. Its never ending and i would have to spend 6 grand to get it even close to the performance of the saab. Sorry but thats the truth! I love my ride, might even keep it if i sell my bike first. We shall see.

SILVER97LE:

The saab im looking at looks a little better than that 91, and its also a turbo cse. Im sorry guys nissan has been good to me but sometimes you have to move on.

As for the c4 corvette, i said c4 cause its actually affordable, and it would be a 92-96 corvette with the lt1, fast as hell! outhandles the 240 and is more comfortable even, 6 speeds huge tires! You would need a very highly modified 240 to even compete. Corvettes aint no joke. But what if you modded the corvette, hmmmmm...

You can see my dads corvette, my 240 and bike on my page below in the sig.

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There is no disputing that the C4 is a great car and superior to a stock 240, I can say this because I've driven both the C4 and C5. Although, what may be construed as a joke is the fact that a Dodge Neon (SRT-4) will take a now aging C4 vette to the proverbial bank, right out of the box. Shyt, it will even show a C5 it's tail lights just watch the MPG in the multi-media forum, now I'm sure that SRT is not stock, but nonetheless it's impressive, and funny! As for your Saab I was under the impression the the only Saab model from the early 90's that had 225 hp was the 9000 Aero. This was the highest end Saab of it's day posting a 0-60 time in the High 6sec. range. If you need $6000 invested in a 240 to "even come close" to that, you may want to consider finding a new parts supplier because you're getting hosed. Anyone in this forum will concur that $6000 into even a bone stock 240 will go a long way to improve the performance, much past that of a Saab 9000 Aero. As a matter of fact now your talking C4 vette territory. I'm not trying to talk you out of the Saab, I'm just playing devil's advocate. Like I said before good luck w/ the Saab

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Dauer,

Hey devils advocate or not, this is why i posted(to get other opinions)even if they are biased or not. Dont matter because i have to sell either my bike or the 240 to get the saab which they are selling to me for 3,500. This is a steal considering the non headache of installing a sr20det or turbo to my ka. Dont need that in my life right now. Also i think that you are right about the aero saab. But the cse turbo saab is still in the 200 hp range. Im sure minor adjustments or parts will fix that. I just dont want to do major work on a car. As for srt4 taking on a 92-96 vette, i would have to see that. And dauer we are talking about comfort here also, saab is just in another league. If it werent for the comfort factor i would keep the 240.

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also remember i am in PR, not as much variety as you guys up there. Your sr20 is gonna be way less than the ticket price here.

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I can't dispute the comfort and luxury of a Saab. I truly hope it turns out to be a great and reliable car. Regarding the srt4 running with a vette just go to the multi-media forum, there is a video there of such a match, against a C5 nonetheless.

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I have a 91 se coupe and love it dearly. I got my wife the Saab 9-5 SE wagon for the kids and dogs (v-6 turbo). The Saab is an exceptional car and plan on taking it as my daily in another year or so. I then plan on really putting in some work on the ol'e s13. I know Saab had some bad years in the early 90's with reliablity but they are fun to drive and great highway cars, not to metion safe! You will be pleased with either car you choose. For what it's worth, who else can say their car was created by fighter jet engineers.

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I worked for a Saab dealer many years ago, when they were selling the 900 Turbo;s. Well built, well engineered cars, though a little quirky and a bit looks challenged. The Saab will cost you more to fix when something breaks. It;s also not especially sporty, despite a turbocharger (boost is set low). But if you're looking for a roomy versatile FWD daily driver, it's a pretty good choice. It really boils down to what you want in a car.If you have kids, or get a lotta snow, the Saab might be better.If you want to autocross, well, the 240 would be a better choice.

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i like the 240 dearly, but i dont auto cross i just simply drive on the highway 80 miles a day, that why i want a turbo saab its quite simple really

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Hmm. The Saab may be more comfortable than a 240 on a long commute, though you do sit more upright. The 240 will be cheaper to maintain and give you better gas mileage, but the saab has a softer ride. I wouldn't say one is hugely superior to the other, it really depends on what attributes you feel is more important for a long distance commuting car. if you're more interested in fuel economy and low operating costs over comfort, then 240 may be a better choice of the two. If you want a bigger more comfortable car that can hold more people/cargo, is easier on your butt, then the Saab might be the better choice of the two. There's really no right answer here.Good luck


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