240sx: KYB AGX shocks + Eibach Pro-Kit springs in a s13

Post by **Silent Drifter** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

haha Id do that an change your oild for a 6 pack an pizza!

Post by **stutt944** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

top notch write up. well done!

for everyone else: dont ever pay 300 dollars to have someone else do something you can do yourself while drunk and having fun and listening to music, because odds are, they're doing the very same things.

Post by **book-ends** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

Hello,

Just a quick point. If anyone is ever doing suspension/chassis upgrades or replacements it is pretty important to tighten everything up to spec. I replaced my front and rear stabilizer bars, front and rear lower control arms (with poly bushings pressed in) and replaced the T/C rods with adjustable units.

When I was done I just tightened it up as snug as possible and then got the car off of the jack stands. Two days later I heard some metal on metal rattling and sure enough the stabilzer bar bracket was starting to come loose and the washer was making all sorts of "tinkling" noise.

The simple solution? Buy some cheap ramps at Checker and tighten everything up with the car on the ramps. You have plenty of clearance to lay under there and more than enough room to use a torque wrench!

Everything is tightened up to spec and I haven't had a problem since. I hope this helps someone.

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

hey jeansguy, what stabilizer bars did u use and was it worth the money?

Post by **book-ends** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

TurboKA37,

I have the three way adjustable Whiteline units available through Don at PDM Racing. The difference is amazing, especially with new shocks or coilovers. Also, I don't know of any other adjustable stabilzer bars on the market.......does anyone else know?

http://www.pdm-racing.com

Post by **KB3** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

I have to agree with all the others that this is a great little how to. I pick up my 240 in the next couple of days and this is one mod that is on my list.

Post by **Camel** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

Could someone please fix the pics in this thread, I think it would be worth the effort.

Post by **420SEX** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

yes, please fix the pics. I am going to be doing this next weekend and would like a little more confidence by looking at pictures.

Post by **fiznat** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

yeah sorry guys I'll fix it... I donno what happened to entity so I think I'll just make new copies and host them someplace else. Gimmie a day or two and they'll be back up!

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

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Post by **420SEX** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

I'll host them on my site if you would likehttp://www.modifiedmemphis.com

Post by **fiznat** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

yeah cool, thanks guys. I gotta find the originals though - that's what's taking me so long. I re-formatted my computer and I backed them up someplace, I'm just having a hard time finding the disc

Post by **S13HatchLuvr** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

fiznat, Thanks a lot for posting this... I know it probably took some time. This is the exact setup that I'm looking at right now, yet I'm wondering if I will have clearance problems with my N1 single... Let me know what you think!

Post by **X1nom3D** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

very nice job... i would have had pictures for this too, but i didn't have my digicam back then, LOL. btw, instead, i have the AGX along with sprint's 1.8 inch drop all around, as you see in the picture. looks pretty decent also.

Post by **flyfishz** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

I have gotten so much help in these boards! I just happen to order these same shocks and a set of Eibach sportlines for my son's 89. We are going to do the install together next Saturday. We installed 4 Volk AG3 17" wheels with Yokahamas last week. I think the total combo will really look sharp. I will have the lap top out in the garage when we are doing this so we can follow your ( best I have ever seen) instructions. your timing could not be better!

Post by **X1nom3D** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

hey flyfishz, you should post pics of it after the installs, if you can

i'd like to see.

Post by **fiznat** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

cool guys! uhmm when you do your own install, if you notice anything that I didnt explain as well as I could or something that I missed, please go ahead and take a pic or explain it on here!

Post by **flyfishz** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

pics comming install

Post by **s13ofdoom** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

i agree with that fender gap!!!! good work man!!! ur write up is awesome thanks this willl come in handy

Post by **schyawn** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

Hey, just a note on the rear shock install. I just did the same swap on my car btw.

the bottom bushing on the schock has a small taper on one side of the sleeve which matches up to the taper on the mounting bolt to the car. In your pic you show the adjusting dial facing outwards (away from the car), but if the taper was matched up properly, the dial would face towards the center of the car. There is detail of this in the FSM.

I'm sure the shock's not gonna fall off. Just something to be aware of.

Post by **fiznat** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

the AGX papers all said the dial should be facing outward. I'm sure you could do it either way, but I just did what AGX said to do. I noticed that taper mis-match, but it hasnt been a problem in almost 2 months of hard driving so I think it's fine. I might switch them around at some point but right now I'm not too worried about it.

Good point though, thanks!

Post by **Hijacker** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

Great write up, Fiz! If you want a quicker and easier way than holding the rod with a vise grip while you loosen the hat nut, break it before you remove the strut. I just replaced my fronts today and that was how I got around the top nut problem.

One thing I wanted to know was this: what spring rate are your eibachs? I'm looking at a decent set of springs for the future, but I'm messing with what spring rate I need since I have the added weight of the convertable

Post by **schyawn** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

fiznat, Did you measure your drop?....Mine was only .75" rear, and maybe 0.5" front...still offensive :rolleyes

Post by **flyfishz** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

.50!

Thats not good... What did you other guys get? I am about to put these on my son's 89'... hoping for at least 1.5" in the front.

Are we dreaming?

Post by **fiznat** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

I didnt measure it, but I noticed this weekend that my car has settled even lower than it was before. I used to be able to *just* get the floor jack under the frame, but now it's too low to get in there!! I say let it settle in a little bit and it'll drop lower.

Pretty sure the drop was still more than .5" though... like I said I didnt measure it, but look at the before and after pics!

Post by **fiznat** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

tenkawa_akito wrote:Great write up, Fiz! If you want a quicker and easier way than holding the rod with a vise grip while you loosen the hat nut, break it before you remove the strut. I just replaced my fronts today and that was how I got around the top nut problem.

Yeah I was thinking about doing that but I figured I'd do it right if I was gonna make a DIY about it and possibly sell the used parts later. Either way would probably work though!

Quote »One thing I wanted to know was this: what spring rate are your eibachs? I'm looking at a decent set of springs for the future, but I'm messing with what spring rate I need since I have the added weight of the convertable [/quote]The rates for the prokits are:

Spring Rate - F : 1.84~1.92kg/mmSpring Rate - R : 2.3~2.4kg/mmRide Height - F : -1.8" (eibach site) -1" (jnm240 test)Ride Height - R : -1.6" (eibach site) -.75" (test)

Also you can find rates for lots of other brand springs in the suspension forum here: http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....11638hope this helps!

ALSO: so yeah for you guys with the question about the ride hight above, I guess around 1" is standard for these springs. I donno though I felt like my drop was just enough... I love the way my car looks/feels now. If you want a lower drop then just go for the sportlines I'd say... not like the install is any different (actually it'd probably be easier since you dont have to compress them as much!).

Post by **flyfishz** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

how are the sportlines compared to the prolines for handling and everyday driving?

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

sportlines are the more aggressive of the two which has a stiffer spring rate and a lower ride hieght. i bought some whiteline springs and like them real well. not too bad of a ride and when u get in the turns they really stiffen up and dont allow much body roll. they were a much better feel over stock.

Post by **schyawn** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

my prokits have been installed 3 weeks. Doubt any more settling will happen. I do like the ride quality, but i think the H&R's or Whitlines would have been a better choice. Given that they're a bit stiffer, and they drop as much as they say they're supposed to.

Anyone out there in an s13 experience the stated drop after installing prokit springs????????????????????? anyone see 1.8F/1.6R???????.....anyone.....

lol:rolleyes

Post by **WongFeiHung** » Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:33 pm

What are the torque specs for the bolts??

240sx: KYB AGX shocks + Eibach Pro-Kit springs in a s13

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