240sx Complete system

[PoorManQ45]

II helped out a member over AIM the other night.

He wanted to put together a complete system, minus the HU because he had one.

I won't recommend an HU here because different people want so many different features. So you can choose one yourself, or ask for help about a specific one when the time comes.

These are just some recommendations that I feel/know would make a VERY nice system that will get moderately loud, but not annoy the people around you.

Note: I am assuming that you have down the 6.5" cutout for the front as there arn't any good 4x6 speakers out there.

So without further ado:

1: Subwoofer: $149.85http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&D ... er=260-580

This is an all in one setup. Only thing needed is an amp. It is a sealed enclosure with a 10" driver(12" and 15" available for a few $ more).

2: Sub Amp: $175.00Hifonics TXi 5006. 300w RMS @ 4 ohms.I've always liked hifonics for there bang for the buck status. WIth this model there is plenty of room to upgrade the sub if you see the need.

3: 6.5" components: $209.99Nakamichi SP-S6500 6.5". I just love the quality of these things. It may be a little hard to find them, but if you can jump on them. I promise you won't be disappointed.

4: Speaker amplifier: $139 (x2)(2)Nakamichi PA-1002. I personally would go with two of these. One for each of the front speakers.

5: Back speakers: Anything you want.

I personally would just put some Nakamichi 4x6s or 6.5" coaxials back here and power them with the HU. These are just rear fill.

This brings you up to either $464 if you go with one front amp, or $603 with two amps.

The two amps for the fronts speakers arn't completely necessary, but they will give you a tremendous amount of headroom.

[Simmsled]

I approve but you need to put into your budget quality wires and some sound dampening for the doors (at least). Nak is great stuff.

[Simmsled]

I'll take a stab at it.

HU: Your flavor

Processor: Audiocontrol Matrix Line Driver 180.00 shipped [ebay] (superior piece, xtremely low noise floor and high voltage output. Allows you to run your amps at minimum gain for the best signal to noise ratio.)

Amps

Highs/mids amp:Pioneer Premier GM-6150F 180.00 shipped [http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio ... ctID=14866] Front or Front/Rear configuration 60watts x4 at 4 ohms (all speakers) or BRIDGE the 4 channels to 2 and get 120+watts x2 at 4 ohms for the front speakers.

Sub amp:Pioneer Premier GM-7150M 150.00 shipped [http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio ... ctID=14539]

Front SpeakersMbQuart DUA 213 5.25inch component set 100.00 shipped [http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio ... ctID=16928] use 5.25 or 6.5. I have found 5.25 to fit easier with less modification and less sound dampening (I still recommend lots of sound dampening everywhere).

Rears SpeakersSame as fronts, 5.25 is not hard to modify or adapt for the 4x6 area plus they match the tone and response of the fronts. AND THEY'RE ONLY 100 bucks for MbQuart!

Subwoofer:MbQuart DWE-254 10 inch sub 70.00 shipped [http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio ... ctID=13548] Again, MbQuart at a KILLER price pointEnclosure for sub:10 inch sub sealed enclosure 50.00 shipped [http://www.cardomain.com/item/RTE31210]

Wires:Streetwires Complete install kit 50.00 shipped[http://cgi.ebay.com/STREETWIRES-4-GA-4- ... dZViewItem]

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[PoorManQ45]

VEry nice SImm.

What amp for the sub though?

I was considering including dampening, but believe it not, most people don't use it at all

If you want to use it just count on at least $100 to make any difference.

*edit* WOuld it be inappropriate if I linked to this in the 240 section?

[Simmsled]

The amp for sub is up there, just look a little closer.

Post this in 240 section by all means bro! We are here for da people!

[PoorManQ45]

YOu know what I think SImm.

I think if we combine or two recommendations you'd have a very good system.

I'd go with the amps I recommended, and everything else(except maybe sub, I've worked with that one before and it's nice) from your recommendations.

WE both know the reason i'd go with the Nakamichi amps, but just for other people I'll say it, Nakamichi makes some of the finest amplifiers at a not so rediculous price. For about $50 more then the one pioneer amp you will get MUCh cleaner(not saying pioneer isn't clean) sound.

I'd go with the hifonics just do to there watt per dollar status, but also because they have pretty quality too.

If the Nak components weren't discontinued i'd choose them, but the MB quarts you listed are amazing at a steal. Note they're currently $99!

[Simmsled]

Pioneer Premier amps are very good amps. Truthfully, I know the Nak amps are better though. I just couldnt come up with anything as good as Nak for that price, haha. A Nak/MbQuart system for under $1000.00? Damn! I didnt think it was possible. If you used three amps in that system with the Audiocontrol Matrix, holy crap man. That would be sick! BTW, anyone that doubts they ever need a linedriver should not. The difference is STAGGERING. It's what we have come to know as "proper" in the car audio world. Just as we know not to put stupid graphics, stickers, spinner hubcaps, or 'park-bench' wings/spoilers on our automobiles , we know not to build weak car systems. If you have amps, you need Audiocontol.

NOTE: The aforementioned message was NOT a paid advertisement for Audiocontrol. I do not profit from the sale of Audiocontrol, but you can thank me with monitary gifts after you put your system together with Audiocontrol and all your friends/family think your system is the best they've ever heard.

P.S. A stereo is just a 'stereo' if it has the basic parts, speakers, amps, subs, cd player, etc... It becomes a 'system' when you design and build it with quality processing, connectivity, and dampening. Amen.

[ADiamond75]

Pioneer Premier amps are very good amps. Truthfully, I know the Nak amps are better though. I

I would agree with this .. Although Nak amps are often times better in sound quality than pioneer amps they have had a tendency to not be very reliable ... this started to be a factor with their electronics after they re-emerged from bankruptcy.

Front: I run the Nakamichi 6005 components (which have become almost impossible to find, they are the predecessor to the 6500, and were made before the company went bankrupt)

Rear: infinity kappa perfects in

Sub: a Kappa perfect 10” sub on the rear dash …

Amp: all powered by an A/D/S P840 8 channel amp.

Fabrication: It took me over three weeks to engineer the rear dash to hold the sub as well as the 6.5's and alot longer than that to eliminate all vibrations and insulate appropriate areas for optimal sound ....

All and all I spent around $900 on the entire system ... ebay was my friend

[PoorManQ45]

How did you seperate the 6.5s from the sub?

[ADiamond75]

How did you seperate the 6.5s from the sub?

I busted out an angle grinder and went to work on the rear Dash.





This was not the finished product ... it looks alot cleaner now

If you mean how did I separate the power ... 6 channels down to three by bridging and then two left over for the rear speakers ... making the amp a 5 channel amp (120 watts X 3 at 2 ohms, 40 watts by 2 at 4 ohms) using passive crossovers that came with the components. If I wanted to clean the sound up alittle more and add another amp I could run the components on separate channels ... but it works just fine the way it is set up now

On a side note .. the A/D/S amps lie BIGTIME about there power output ... the front speakers are rated at like 300 watts RMS and the sub is rated at 800 watts RMS ... and I could easily max out all these speakers with this amp ... my gains are only about half way up on the fronts and alittle over half on the sub.
Modified by ADiamond75 at 11:18 PM 6/10/2006

[Simmsled]

Yah. A/D/S is beautiful and powerful. (Never something you want in a woman, unless you are that kahrazy type that likes being beat up by a chick.) A/D/S is great stuff. They were one of the big boys during the car audio sound quality renissance. Everyone underrated their amps so to get more power into lower power rating competition categories. Unlike now where companies just say they have elevendy-jillion watts and really only have a few.

[nipo]

Its been a while since i've purchased speakers subs or amps. Is JL Audio still one of the best in subs and amps?

[Looneybomber]

Its been a while since i've purchased speakers subs or amps. Is JL Audio still one of the best in subs and amps?

Actually, they never were to begin with. They're alright though. Call me crazy, but I still have a small spot in my heart for the old school mmats amps and Orion HCCA's...You can call me crazy if you want.

[ADiamond75]

Yah. A/D/S is beautiful and powerful. A/D/S is great stuff. They were one of the big boys during the car audio sound quality renissance. Everyone underrated their amps so to get more power into lower power rating competition categories. Unlike now where companies just say they have elevendy-jillion watts and really only have a few.

exactly ... and the amazing thing is the amp is actually older than the car and still preforms perfectly !!! I believe it was made in 92' and is still putting out great sound ... there are not to many companies that can claim that kind of reliability and quality

[Simmsled]

looney, I have heard the difference first hand. the old school rulez. We replaced JL amps with PPI Art Series and the sound went from good to phenomenal.

The 90s were the car audio "sound quality" renaissance. Today the world is about bling and cost cutting. It is a shame.