240sx=300zx?

[pigducker]

i've had my s13 for awhile now and have been following this forum for just as long. i keep reading everyone saying do this, do that and you get the performance of a 300zx for a fraction of the cost. well can anyone tell me how the 240 sizes up to the 300 with say turbo-ka, an SR, or anything else i can't think of. or is this comparison just from a cost of maintinace point of view.

[S14Zilvia]

240= light 300=heavy240=drifting 300=boosting

A turbo ka or sr20 would put up a good match for a 300. I had a twin turbo before my s14. They're just completely different cars.

But 300's are still better

[pigducker]

thats what i'm looking for. in about 2yrs. money won't be much of a problem so a 300 would be easy to get.

[MAXIMUS Nismo]

In my search for a 240, i came accross a 90' 300Z with 92300 miles, NA motor, major tune up just done, going for $6995 /oob. I can't tell you how temping that was. me thinks if it was a Turbo, I would have taken a bite of the bait.

[pigducker]

my buddy's brother-in-law has i belive a 93tt he bought it wrecked fixed it had about $6000 in then fried both turbos. just replaced them don't know the size but do know he had to grind down some stuff that was in the way to get them in, that and some engine work he has about $10000 in it and the dyno came out to be 500hp at the wheels.

[y3llows14]

I have a friend or whose friend's brother in law's friend that had a cousin that had TT 300zx that runs 9s. Hahaha. Just f*cking with you pigducker.

[wingzero]

I've driven my friends 300zxtt on several occasions, but I've never driven an Sr20-powered 240sx before, so can't help out much with the power comparison, but my 240sx feels a lot tighter and agile in handling, 300zx felt a little bulky and clumsy. And if it helps, the sheer aftermarket support for the 240sx should round out the 240sx's relative shortcomings power-wise.

[1BadAzz240]

its obviously true that the 300 has a lot more weight, but it also has a bigger engine to make up for it. i say go for it, theres a lot of upgrades that can be added onto the car...

[Kristen_S14]

its obviously true that the 300 has a lot more weight, but it also has a bigger engine to make up for it. i say go for it, theres a lot of upgrades that can be added onto the car...

True, but it'd still take a lot of suspension work to make it handle similar to a 240sx. Just like it'd take a lot of engine work (swap) to make a 240sx as fast as a tt. Guess it just depends on what you want now and what you're willing to wait for.

[S14Zilvia]

True, but it'd still take a lot of suspension work to make it handle similar to a 240sx. Just like it'd take a lot of engine work (swap) to make a 240sx as fast as a tt. Guess it just depends on what you want now and what you're willing to wait for.

i don't know that it would take that much work. stock for stock the z would own the 240 in the 1/4, and probably take it on a road course just due to the power diff.

sure, a fully built suspension on a 240 would make it better for autocrossing than a z with fully built suspension... but how many of us actually redo the whole car?

[jemil118]

One of the reason's I'm selling my Z is because of the performance factor...Why spend 12,000 dollars on a decent Z w/ low mileage when you can buy a 240 for 3-4 grand and spend 8 grand on perfromance parts. Sure a stock Z NA will beat almost any 240 out there...unless he's put the sr in it. People are even putting the sr in the NA Z. I talked with Kyle at CTC motorsports and thats what they're doing right now. One of the main reason is the sr stock will give the same amount of hp as the NA Z, except the SR block weighs about 300 lbs less than the VG.

[pigducker]

from what i have heard the engine compartment is pretty tight in the z. this alone would keep me from getting one because i do not trust "pro's" with most of the work on my cars(to many bad memories!!) to the people who have had a z tt how hard is it to work under the hood? so far the 240 is one of the easiest cars i have ever worked on.

[SRJesse]

I Have an s13 and always have loved the 300zx. The 300zx is a very tempting car to buy. I Have never driven a 300zx TT but I am going to guess its dream to remember. I love the way the car looks, handles, and the all-around feel in the cockpit. By all means, I would have chosen a 300zx over my 240 if I had the money or if you could even find one in your area low mileage and in good condition. But I must say, after my SR20DET swap, there is no way in hell I am selling my 240!

Just my 2cents :rolleyes

[S14Zilvia]

from what i have heard the engine compartment is pretty tight in the z. this alone would keep me from getting one because i do not trust "pro's" with most of the work on my cars(to many bad memories!!) to the people who have had a z tt how hard is it to work under the hood? so far the 240 is one of the easiest cars i have ever worked on.

The ZTT, as I have said, is a *****. But that's only because you have to remove items A and B to get to item C.

It requires you to learn what is going on under there, let's put it that way.

Also, I'm 16, and had no experience working on cars before the Z... if I can do it, most anyone can. Takes patience and a bit of reading and screwing up.

[Xaev]

I own both. For me you can't really say one is better than the other, really. The 240 is quick and agile, the Z is fast (like really fast hehe) and definitely handles a little doggier. The 240 feels more like a sports car, the Z more like a sports/touring car. The 240 sucks for long trips comfort-wise, the Z I could drive for days on end and still want more. The KA is cake to work on, you learn a lot working on the VG engine (your toolset will just have to expand a little bit to work on it easier... life is hard . But you're like splitting hairs... 240 is still pretty speedy, even stock. And you can toss the Z around corners like no tomorrow even though its not quite as tight. They're both great cars

-Xaev

[wingzero]

damn straight.

[SRdS14]

honestly...with my sr20 STOCK at 7psi before i did anything, i beat the hell out of 300zx tt. i still love 300s though...but not over my 240.

[Jarret]

Drug dealers can't afford the upkeep on the 300zx... and neither could I.The z32 300zx is a sexy looking creature, and does have lots of power, but without the active TT suspension and lots of other mods, is subject to a ton of understeer. It is almost impossible to push it through an autocross course without nosing into something, let alone the drive up to nana's cottage though the hills.And that is why I bought the 240. It had VIPEResque handling, but just lacked the power to elevate it to magnificence. Taking hairpin turns and wooded chiccanes at the posted speed limt of 55 is what is exhilirating, not throttling it out to 150mph.

All you need to do is have a nearsighted elderly woman with glaucoma pull out in front of you with her '91 crown victoria...when you're trying to blaze a trail at 125mph to learn you this lesson.

BTW a 1993 300zx tt WITHOUT any mods will still run an easy 10 g's.... and a 1993 240 with EVERYTHING won't run that much money.( obiously not a SR swap or APEXI N1 coilovers are not considered here...)

-Jarret

[S14Zilvia]

Drug dealers can't afford the upkeep on the 300zx... and neither could I.

i'm gonna hafta go ahead and disagree with you there... did you own one? i did.

[Mayhem_J30]

depending on what fails is what decides how much the upkeep is gonna cost. it's been said time and time again the VG motor is bullet proof. with boost things do wear out quicker, but still a very reliable motor. the part that costs about upkeep is the labor..assuming you don't do the work yourself. the VG is a PITA to work on and with tt's and it's a PITEA e=everybody. upgrades are expensive to. but you're also talking about 2 turbos vs one so everything would be doubled.the new z33 unfortunately like the z32 has been stricken with an eating problem. both heavy cars and apparently feel heavy through the turns after reading all the new z reviews. but out of the box stock for stock they're packin!

[S14Zilvia]

well, i guess i'm just used to it.

if you're willing to do your own work and maybe learn some stuff in the process, taking your time and doing things right, the z will reward you.

don't take care of it, don't understand it, take it to a mechanic and don't have patience with it or understanding of it and you'll hate it.

but i am done. the bottom line is the z is more work, not necessarily impossible to work on though. but the fact that jobs take longer to do because of the close quarters means that if you do it yourself you'll be alright, just take a bit longer, but if you take it somewhere labor charges will eat you alive.

[pigducker]

thanks for the replies. maybe i'll keep my 240 make it faster untill i can get the 300. sounds like haveing both is the way to go (if one can afford it )