240 w/sr20det vs 1997 vette

[pushnlacs]

hey whats up? ok i want your honest opinion on something. when spring/summer comes around i am going to spend around 16g's on a car. i want a bad *** car that i can soup up and have a bad mo fo for when each summer rolls around.

thing is i pretty much had my mind set on a 95 240 and swapin a sr into it but iv just realized for 16g's i can get a 97 vette and iv always wanted a vette since i was like 10. i really dig imports and if it was any other domestic i would pick a import any day but a vettes a vette and the c5 is sexy and mean all at once.

i know you are 240 lovers and i dont blame you but in your honest opinion if you had 16k up front would you buy a 95 240 and do a sr20 swap or go for the 97 vette???

thanks

[scruffy63]

I would go with the 240. for 16 grand it can be made waaay faster thana vette. but are we talking about 16 grand to spend on either car or installments? oh and I wouldn't swap the sr. I like the feeling of lots of torque. its what makes drivig fun so I would build the ka. or swap a rb25 or a v8.

[pushnlacs]

just 16k all together on whatever. but building the ka is out of the question i wouldnt do it the only way id get a 240 is if i do a sr swap. but iv never had a turbo car and im hearing alot about how high hp turbo cars suck at low speed and all but if i have a powerful car i want power all the time from a dead stop. i dig imports but that one thing worries me.

but like i said its 16k all together and if i go 240 it will only be with a sr swap so say 5g for the car(95 s14) another 3500 for the s14 sr and thats 8500 so then id get a intake ,exhaust, boost controller, bov/hot pipe,gages,flywheel and clutch upgrade, nismo mounts, fmi and all that installed will be about 16g's and it wouldnt be faster than a stock c5 it mabey be about the same.

so for the 16k id get about the same either way but the vette would be stock with alot of room to grow, though a 350whp 240 would be bad *** in the end to. its a hard choice. like i said i just dont like all this lag talk and how powerful turbo cars are good at high speed but suck down low(this coming from turbo car owners) but if i have 500hp i wanna hit the gas and go. damn its hard

[kamikazestorm420]

but like i said its 16k all together and if i go 240 it will only be with a sr swap so say 5g for the car(95 s14) another 3500 for the s14 sr and thats 8500 so then id get a intake ,exhaust, boost controller, bov/hot pipe,gages,flywheel and clutch upgrade, nismo mounts, fmi and all that installed will be about 16g's and it wouldnt be faster than a stock c5 it mabey be about the same.

car 5000sr swap 3500intake 150exhaust 600EBC 400bov w/ hotpipe 400clutch 300?flywheel 400fmic 1000nismo mounts <300all gauges <1000what do you mean by all that totals up to be 16000 ...i dont think thats near 16000 .. and with installation?? why not do it yourself?

[pushnlacs]

yea it would be about 15-16k iv added it all up. i missed naming a few things there like upgrade fuel pump,plugs, radiator,fan, ect..but everything would add up to 15-16k and i would have to get it all installed caused honestly i dont know how to do it. i know about cars but not about working on them and all that.

[HashiriyaS14]

My question is where the hell are you getting a C5 vette for $16k?? I've never seen one for less than $25k around here (DC Metro), let alone less than 20.

I love the C5, my favorite Corvette, even more so than the C6. If I could have one, I'd probably buy one, but only if I had the cash leftover to do things to it.

<---wants a WEST tuned Corvette.

[Zydeco]

dont forget 1200+ for coilovers and 1500+ for rims and tires.

[Charlie240sxt]

Look around for a 95 that has a bad motor or something then you could get one for around 3k i see them around kinda often

[curbsurfer253]

My budget was $12,000 and I now have a 96 240 SE w/ an rb25det; greddy intake manifold, greddy fmic, sard fpr, walbro 255, nismo 550's, 3" exhaust, hks evc boost controller, defi boost and egt gauges, greddy bov, greddy tb adapter, mckinney harness, Trust me...$16K = more than a 240 w/ an sr.

[mynismo]

My question is where the hell are you getting a C5 vette for $16k?? I've never seen one for less than $25k around here (DC Metro), let alone less than 20.

thats what my thoughts were. if you can get a c5 for 16k i wouldn't even think twice about that. get it.

it will cost at least 14k for an s14 swapped and slightly modded. i have an s13 and im up to 12k and still dont have rims/coilovers. look at a good 16k for a nice s14 setup with rims/coilovers and thats probably without an upgraded turbo setup.

get the c5 if you can. thats a deal, and it will actually be worth more than 12k when you want to sell it.

[Doomed2Walk]

Depending on where you buy, what you buy, used or new. For 16 thousand you can get a S14 and upgrade the internals on the KA and get a turbo kit, and enough money some susp work, gauges, other misc parts and possibly a little more or less; or you can do the SR swap with bolt ons, bigger injectors, maf upgrade, ecu, some susp work and possibly more or less. If you're not going to or can't do the work yourself, add another 1200-1500 for labor. Also, if you want off the line power, go w/ KA-T. MCEP??? (Brandon) showed me a site where they bore out the KA to a 2.6L, you'll never have to worry about torque.

I finally got a SR swap and I love it, but I've wanted to do it for a couple years now, but now I want to see what a KA-T can do . It's basically personal preference.

[scruffy63]

seems like you want an sr but need a ka. with the KA you save money on a swap. I think Its shown that with both fully built like you are planning to do the KA comes out a little cheaper. plus its got all the torque you'll need. but i'm a KA fan so i'm biased against the sr.

[pushnlacs]

thing is i really dont want a ka in my 240 if i get one id want to swap the sr in for authentic reasons, if i could afford a import with a i-6 aka supra or skyline then hell yea low end power wouldnt be a problem. but i wouldnt swap any engine but the sr into a 240 cause the sr is the original jdm engine and its just not my style to roll around in a complete hybrd.

i was talking with the guys at phase2 and the said a s14 sr modded up and with a upgraded gt2530 turbo i would put down 360hp to the wheels and hit full boost befor 3500rpm, thats not really any lag is it? so that would be my plan for a 240 if i went that route, 240 with gt2530 sr. its that or the 97 c5 cause you can get one for 16. 97's with like 50k on them are being asked 18g's for but if you show up with 16k in cash i dont think youll have a problem. sr20/240 would be the s**t but a vettes a vette, the one true american badass. i need to find a sr swaped 240 and drive one to see how it feels or at least some type of 2.0l turbo car.

[LiU]

someone's been reading too many JDM catalogs... how bout some time behind the wheel? All those things you listed would still make a slow 240, you just about ignored all the important stuff, tires and brakes for one, oh yea, and possible the most important of all, driver upgrade! I'm getting the stage 2 driver upgrade as soon as i get enough money.

[Charlie240sxt]

Yea goin fast is fun and all but you also have to turn and stop.How you plan to get this power to the ground?? Dont think the 205s will stay hooked up. Youll spin those things like crazy if you shift hard. Love you bring that bad boy to a stop with all that power too.

[twofourzeroSX]

Heres my opinion-you HAVE to love the c5 no matter if ur jap or not.BUT- think about this, insurence will be freakin outragess compaired to a 240, and the best bet is to buy that c5 for 16k sell it for 20 sumthin and get a badass rb powered 240 that will kill nethin...and u can still have some money left over to do whatever with- go buy a beater or sumthin

[pushnlacs]

i dont know what your talking about with the reading to many jdm mags. thats just stupid and driver upgrade? i can almost garentee i can out drive you so im not worried about my driving skills and the things i listed will make for a 13 sec 240 and yea thats not that fast but thats just stuff id get done with the swap considering most of it is recommended and better to have. and then the one kid saying all that power would be hard to stop/controll what are you talking about?? i would do the thing i listed and the do suspension,rims/tires and then go back to the engine. i dont even know were all this bs came from i was just asking your opinion on what youd do with 16g sr20 240 or c5?? and yea i would like some time behind the wheel of a sr20 powered 240 whitch i already said if youd read but its kinda hard when there not just laying around for me to hope into and drive.

[pushnlacs]

oh and yea the c5 is badass no matter who you are so your right on that but as for swaping a rb into a 240 i wouldnt do it cause its not my style i dont want a complete hybrid

[MainEvent212]

, just get the C5 vette, you seem to want it much more, so i'm sure you will be mroe happy with it in the end...

and jsut for reference, i raced a C5 vette before...i kept even until like 120 and he pulled off, mostly cuz my car just dosent go as fast as a corvette

[pushnlacs]

i actually will probly go with the 240 w/sr swap thats what i really want but always hearing people saying how their cars suck down low is what was putting me off but i trust phase2's word so 360whp with full boost befor 3500rpm sounds fine with me. thats stock turbo like response. plus the insurance thing is a good point c5 will kill ya on insurance.

only thing is people are saying i can get a 240 w/sr with rims/tires,suspension and brakes for under 16 but check this out for the swap you should do these upgrades.

intake,downpipe,catback,boost contoller,boost gauge,turbo timer,clutch,fuel filter,fuel pump,fmic,hotpip/bov,plugs,thermostat,oil filter,fan,radiator. all that with car and engine around 12 grand w/o install. how am i supposed to get brakes,rims,tires,coilovers all for under 4g's???

[S13ChucKAT]

My honest opinion to you.. stick with the KA, you will be a LEGAL road warrior.. turboed, the KA can make more hp, and has low end torque to spare... the SR is high revving.. but that really all it has..

in my opinion

2.4 > 2.0Iron > steelLow end > less low end more high endUSDM legal > JDM illegal

[Red coupe]

The reson he said you been reading to many JDM magizines is because you seem to be obssed with the SR for no reason other then its japaness. and you are man you said no way to the turbo KA because you want to be authentic? then be authentic YOUR CAN WILL HAVE A KA BECAUSE ITS A 240 AND NOT A SYLVIA. you are worried about low end grunt but still refuse to have the option with more low end because its not jdm. you also seem very worried about preformance but still want to base your discisions on image. A total hybrid? no one said go drop a 1jz in there, moving from one vehicles engin to an more powerfull engin from the same manufacture doent sound like a total hybrid to me...Sorry if I sound mean but man we all have heard I NEED AN SR to many times consider other engins to man and look at what will make the fastest laptime, because in the end thats all that matters.

[GEO]

How old are you? 15-16? Why do you listen to what other people say? Look it up and find out. Just by reading your posts, seems you know about engines or how they work, ect... Please don't say you will out drive anyone... Driving around in your dads Honda Accord on your permit doesn't make you a good driver. PLEASE STFU and do some research before you start saying your doing mods. Do you even know what 360 WHP feels like on the trottle. Do you know you realize the skill it takes to keep something like that on the road. LOTS. Why not go small and build up, instead of jumping right on it.

[pushnlacs]

alright for one im 22 so u can just stfu and second i dont drive my dadys honda like you i drive a sts and befor that a 5.0 and i will say i can out drive you just for the fact that you sound like a bia. you just need to quite trying to be a internet tough guy and realize you aint s**t, i know online is the only place you feel tough and the only place you feel big but its just sad. to me putting a engine that was never in that chassi is a total hybrid and its not something i would do so thats why the sr is the only option not because its "jdm" and thats the thing to do but because its the japanese domestic market engine and was built for high performance unlike the ka. i wouldnt want to turbo the ka cause i want a engine that already turbo and built for perforamce. so thats the reason i want a sr., but like unlike the dude that crying like a lil girl im not stupid enough to go invest thousands of dollars into something befor i have an idea of how it will performe. but you know you just automaticlly knew how a sr20 powered car would feel befor ever asking about it or anything. yea sure buddy. im not so set on tall low end tourqe i just dont want to have to floor a car all the time to take off and dont want to hit the gas and have it feel like a lil stock 150hp 4 banger until 5 secounds later when it decides to go. most of you guys on here are cool but some people are bi****S but i guess every forum has the people that have no outside life and only feel cool online by acting like they are special and talking sh**t

[93sleeper]

The SR is only one of many options you can have for $16k. I wouldn't let JDMness be a factor....if that's all you want, then definitely don't get the C5...you couldn't get any less JDM.

I guess it comes down to whether you want your car to be a project or not. I went with an S13 because I really like working on my car and making it my own. I really don't care about stockness. The 240 is a great platform for a project that can be taken just about anywhere. The C5 isn't like that, at least with a $16k budget. If like you said you don't really work on cars, then I'd suggest getting something like the C5.

[GEO]

Hahahaha. Thats all I have to say.

[pushnlacs]

man no one listens im not hooked on the jdm craze were everthing is jdm, jdm.i never said i want a sr for its jdmness and no sh**t a c5 isnt anything close to jdm but i wouldnt car like i said im not crazed on jdm. its seems more like you guys are set on this jdm thing. i want a sr because its the original engine put in the s chassi and was built for high performance so thats why i would put a sr into a 240 if it sucked i wouldnt do it just cause its jdm and if the ka was a turboed high performance engine i wouldnt take it out of the car just to go jdm but the fact is that the jdm sr is a turboed high performance engine so thats why if i get a s14 thats what id drop in it. also just because im not skiiled on working on cars why would i go c5 for that reason i would mod that to you know tuner and performance shops exist because not everyone that wants a custom bad *** car is a machanic , also over time i will learn to do things on my car.

[scruffy63]

No need to be hostile. see the people that talking about can offer lots of good knowledge you just have to go about asking it the right way.

You say you want torque but you say no to the KA

Building the ka is cheaper but you still want the sr

You say you want to be authentic, but the sr has been done a million times already

It doesn’t matter who you can out drive, you can always get better no matter who you are.

You say you don’t want a complete hybrid, but I’ve never seen any 240sx come with an sr.

As already stated the KA is very legal whereas the sr is illegal

It doesn’t matter which engine was built for performance. If you are going to spend 16 grand on a car and looking for 350 hp, you would most likely build your engine for whatever hp you are looking for. All engines can be built for performance.

other than it came in the car what are your reasons for wanting a SR????

[MainEvent212]

dude to be completely blunt and honest, you need to calm down and think rationally. Just because u have 16 grand dosent mean u have to throw it all into a car. Why not get a 240 (do you have one?) and maybe do some suspension mods, get an exhaust and drive it for a while, do the brakes and all that jazz FIRST...then put ur SR in and drive it like that for a while...dont do it all at once...are you sure you're ready for a car that has 360hp?

[jdmfreak]

Please explain.

1) If its a 240 and originally had a KA, then how is it not a hybrid when you put an SR in it?2) If KA has what you want, then why go the opposite way?3) Why are you retaliating when every1 is posting things that make perfect sense?4) You do know that the SR is ILLEGAL right? Many do it anyway but just making sure.5) Are all those turbo owners driving cars that were turboed from the factory?6) You DO know that there are different turbos for different ranges in power(low/mid/high end) right?