240 lowered w/mad neg. camber issues...HELP!
240 lowered w/mad neg. camber issues...HELP!
Come from a family of DIY "maintenance only" of auto's so all mod's are a 1st 4 me. Can't find specific answers on site about question. Send me in the right direction?I installed some megans racing springs and AGX's on my zenki. Mad camber all around. I know an alignment won't bring it back 2 specs on factory suspension components. How do I correct this? A camber kit? What does that include? Can a shop like NTB do an alignment w/aftermarket ajustable suspension? I'm guessing I need control arms 4 the rear? Is this right? What about the front? I want as close 2 factory specs as possible!!!!Looking for more than just a quick fix and 2 word answers. I know there are nissan geeks on here that have the patience 2 read this & give a legit response so...Am I missing the threads on this? Flame me if you must...it will only give me direction!
Front: Upper camber plates/mounts.Rear: Rear Upper Control Arms. ( http://www.splparts.com/Parts/...k.asp )
Re: 05' 240 lowered w/mad neg. camber issues...HELP! (geebee03)
thanks for the help ppl.bumpity bump bump bump
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You need RUCA's (Rear Upper Control Arms) for the rear that will adjust your negative camber problems... Also, you should get adjustable toe control rods at the same time.
When you manipulate the geometry of your camber, due to the contruction of the rear suspension, you will need to adjust the toe as well. When the car is so low, the factory adjustments are not enoughh to bring the toe back to correct.
In response to the front suspension issues, you have multiple issues to address... Extreme negative camber can be solved with adustable upper mounts on the top of your front suspension. You can control the specifc degree of adjustment like this... Toe is controlled with adjustable tie rods and the stress placed on the stock tie rods from being too low can be controlled with outer tie rod ends that extend up to relieve the stress on the steering rack.
There are multiple multiple comanies out there that do all of this stuff...
If you don't want to pay big money for coilovers, you can actualy get adjustable upper plates for the front suspension without buying the entire shock from companies like Tein.
As far as the hardcore control arms and adjustable parts, they can get pricey. Don't go with the cheap crap. It will make a lot of noise and possible break due to cheap welds. Do your research... There are many companies out there that offer different pricing... Look for sealed or coated solutions to parts that interact or move with another part...
Ask lots of questions, call around... It all depends what is in your price range. Kazama, Cusco, Tein are a few of the Japanese names that can provide solutions to your problems. Kazama and Cusco are expensive but I feel manufacture the highest quality product. American companies like SPL who use high quality parts are a good cheaper solution, but don't have the background or experience that some of the other tuners might have.
When I ask myself who I should buy parts from, I always look at who originated the part for the car and who developed the technology and who has THE MOST TO LOSE by selling inferior products...
Take your time, ask lots of questions, and ask yourself what your goal is with all of these products... What are you going to do with all this stuff once it is installed??? Does the benefit outweigh the cost?
Best prices so far have been from the lineup of people on the advertised MARKETPLACE links... http://www.frsport.com has excellent pricing and they really know what they are talking about... They build cars first hand, know the products, know the tolerances, and won't B.S. you, BUT, they don't sell cheap stuff... Their prices are better than anyone on the items they carry, but they won't deal in cheaper parts because of the reasons I lister above...
Hope I was of help..
Cheers
When you manipulate the geometry of your camber, due to the contruction of the rear suspension, you will need to adjust the toe as well. When the car is so low, the factory adjustments are not enoughh to bring the toe back to correct.
In response to the front suspension issues, you have multiple issues to address... Extreme negative camber can be solved with adustable upper mounts on the top of your front suspension. You can control the specifc degree of adjustment like this... Toe is controlled with adjustable tie rods and the stress placed on the stock tie rods from being too low can be controlled with outer tie rod ends that extend up to relieve the stress on the steering rack.
There are multiple multiple comanies out there that do all of this stuff...
If you don't want to pay big money for coilovers, you can actualy get adjustable upper plates for the front suspension without buying the entire shock from companies like Tein.
As far as the hardcore control arms and adjustable parts, they can get pricey. Don't go with the cheap crap. It will make a lot of noise and possible break due to cheap welds. Do your research... There are many companies out there that offer different pricing... Look for sealed or coated solutions to parts that interact or move with another part...
Ask lots of questions, call around... It all depends what is in your price range. Kazama, Cusco, Tein are a few of the Japanese names that can provide solutions to your problems. Kazama and Cusco are expensive but I feel manufacture the highest quality product. American companies like SPL who use high quality parts are a good cheaper solution, but don't have the background or experience that some of the other tuners might have.
When I ask myself who I should buy parts from, I always look at who originated the part for the car and who developed the technology and who has THE MOST TO LOSE by selling inferior products...
Take your time, ask lots of questions, and ask yourself what your goal is with all of these products... What are you going to do with all this stuff once it is installed??? Does the benefit outweigh the cost?
Best prices so far have been from the lineup of people on the advertised MARKETPLACE links... http://www.frsport.com has excellent pricing and they really know what they are talking about... They build cars first hand, know the products, know the tolerances, and won't B.S. you, BUT, they don't sell cheap stuff... Their prices are better than anyone on the items they carry, but they won't deal in cheaper parts because of the reasons I lister above...
Hope I was of help..
Cheers
To help you with the decision :Get Camber plates for the front. I can't recall the brand I have installed on my car but they are the only camber plates with a bushing --- AVOID IT -- unless they have redesigned them they won't fit without a bit of fabrication - and the bearings they use in there already gave up on my driver side...
So get the tien camber plates.
As far as those adjustable suspension arms this is my personal experience with 3 brands. All have been used for two years - driven daily snow or shine:Tanabe (Tension rods): rusted - including the spherical bearing - need to replaced.JiC (Toe Rods): like new.CUSCO (RUCA // Rear Upper Control Arm): like new.
So get the tien camber plates.
As far as those adjustable suspension arms this is my personal experience with 3 brands. All have been used for two years - driven daily snow or shine:Tanabe (Tension rods): rusted - including the spherical bearing - need to replaced.JiC (Toe Rods): like new.CUSCO (RUCA // Rear Upper Control Arm): like new.
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My buddy broke the JIC stuff in half... I wouldn't buy that scrap metal... I went with Kazama.. More expensive, but never hear of them breaking.