2023 Versa S keyless entry

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vic831 wrote:
Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:25 pm
I wonder if the screw or dowel pin was getting loose and the key blade was coming out? So are you pegging it with the key out/open all the time ?
Yes.


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Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:31 pm
If this is the case, I would buy a cheap RKE kit off eBay and wire it to just the drivers master power lock switch APITA, I’ve done it on an 08 Honda. But since the car is 2000 miles away, my relative is out of luck, we’ll know in 12 hrs
That's probably wiser and undoubtedly cheaper, albeit less pretty.

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Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:13 pm
The unanswered question is, does the BCM on the '23 even have a radio receiver and radio firmware? The '22~'23 part numbers are different, and the key in-out procedure not working implies that the '23 doesn't have RF capability. If not, when the smith tries to program a fob, he's going to get Bill Murray (not listening to you la-la-la-la-la-la-la...). If that turns out to be the case, the only solution besides aftermarket RKE will be a '22 BCM.
“Bill Murray” thats funny, what movie is that from? If this is the case, I would buy a cheap RKE kit off eBay and wire it to just the drivers master power lock switch APITA, I’ve done it on an 08 Honda. But since the car is 2000 miles away, my relative is out of luck, we’ll know in 12 hrs

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VStar isn’t that quote Jim Carey from dumb and dumber?

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Mighta been. I thought it was Murray, but my movie expertise starts and ends at a good Cagney imitation. :cool:

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Ok, i can confirm that the 2022/2023 fob
28268-5EA1A switchblade (fob only) $142.05
H0561-5EF0C fob/SB keybladecombo $336.33
These are programmable to a Versa S manual transmission and presumably CVT to lock/unlock drivers door 1 push, all doors 2 pushes, and panic button. NOTE: the trunk release does NOT work.

I don’t believe the S trim has a power trunk release actuator. The SV and SR trims don’t have external key locks on the trunklids (or passenger door) but they def have trunk actuators.

So we bought eBay 2005 Altima aftermarket fobs just for the key blank, the locksmith switched out the internal circuit board from the above 28268 fob and programmed it thru the obd port. Sadly, the simple 2019 Frontier fob or the 2005 Altima fob electronics could not be accepted by the car.

In conclusion, you can get either the 28268 above fob and the eBay fobs and make yourself a H0561 fob/key or use the 28268 fob with your factory key.

Note, the dealers sell the parts online to the public cheaper than thru the walk up parts dept. Some dealers give up to 30% off online. Couple that with periodic Nissanusa online sales of 25% off and free shipping and you can get the price down.

VStar : thank you tremendously for your insight. Can you confirm there is no power trunk actuator on an S trim?
Also I don’t think the trunk unlock programming would be a separate locksmith function, I just know that function doesn’t work and the locksmith wouldn’t answer the question after the fact so he’s getting no referrals from us. FYI $117 to cut 2 keys and programming/trials/taking the fobs apart
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I'll need to get into ASIST to check on the trunk lock, but I won't be back at the shop till Tuesday. Bump this thread Tuesday morning to remind me.

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Reading the 23’ owners manual online the SV and the SR have a power unlatch switch on the underside of the trunk lid above the lic plate, which the S trim doesn’t have. So I think there is no power actuator on the 22/23 S trim Versa.

So that probably was another thing that p.o. the 2022 S trim buyers with their one lousy fob: the trunk unlock button didn’t function.

If there is any one out their that has a 22’ S Versa let us know if the trunk unlock button function works.

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There's a trunk output on the '23 BCM, it's probably just unwired. Pin 103, you might want to see if it strobes 12V when you press the trunk button on the fob. If so, you can replace the mechanical trunk lock with an electric and route one wire to the rear:

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Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:11 pm
Reading the 23’ owners manual online the SV and the SR have a power unlatch switch on the underside of the trunk lid above the lic plate, which the S trim doesn’t have. So I think there is no power actuator on the 22/23 S trim Versa.

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Ok, this is it. I drove to a dealer to look at a 2022 Versa S with 1 fob. The fob trunk popper works!!! It appears that there is no lock cylinder on the trunk or on the right front passenger door. So in 22’ you got a power trunk actuator! I also noted that 22’ had steel wheels but has a fold down rear seat. I looked at the monroney sticker on the car fax and it was not extra. So the 2022 was a better deal new compared to a 2023. The FDRS is part of a $1000 S+ package in 23’ along with 16” alum wheels.

So this explains why there is no fob for 2023 S trim, they have further decontented the S trim for 23’, but raised the price, and buyers would have been disappointed that the fob trunk release would not work, which would precipitate service calls.

I also noted that the key blank is fixed to the fob with a small dowel pin mounted in black rubber or jb weld like material and NOT a tiny screw!!

So, in conclusion, and your all welcome for all this info, if you just want a remote to use with your factory keys, get a 28260-5EA1A fob(s) $142 and have a locksmith program the BCM for door function and panic button but no trunk popper. OR, Buy the outdated electronics eBay fobs as above just for the switch blade key and change out the circuit guts, cut the key and get it programmed and put away your factory keys.
You still won’t have the trunk popper, but it will be all in one, like in 2022. Be sure to have ALL keys and fobs present for programming at one time by the LS.

Or get the H0561-5EF0C fob/key combo for an astounding $336 and have them cut and programmed along with your factory keys, you still won’t have trunk popper.

Try to order on line from Nissanusa parts site during one of their sales.
The pics below are the lockless 22’ trunk lid and a blurry key fob dowel pin. The salesman was wondering what I was doing and I had to hurry.

Thank you again VStar, you are a star!!

Peace out, Good luck everyone
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If the '22 trunk lock actuator is the one I think, 84630-3RA0A, then it's an Almera part and has been around overseas for awhile. I can check that tomorrow too, but they're only about $80 online. Since we now know the BCM has a radio, chances are very good it has a trunk lock driver as well. If so, you can just bolt up the power actuator and run one new wire from the BCM to it.

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Correction studying the monroney stickers on various 2022 Versa S car fax reports (provided free) it appears that only the CVT S trims got the 60/40 folding rear seat. The manual transmission cars had non folding rear seat.

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Follow up, locksmith confirmed that there is no separate programming for the trunk popper function, it’s all or none. If I had the car in my possession I would try adding the actuator. Question VStar: Adding the actuator would/would not effect using the key in the trunk lid external lock? , it’s connected by a rod to the latch. How is the actuator grounded? What is the bolt needed to secure it part number? Lastly where is the BCM located? Edit: looks like it’s up under the drivers side dash, is it hard to get to/ access ?

Thank you in advance

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I didn't forget about this, I just had a "hot potato" day at the shop. To answer part of the question, the trunk actuator is usually just a mechanical type with an actuator attached, so it will generally bolt up the same way in the same hole. It gets a power strobe from the BCM, but it doesn't matter where ground connects. Nissan uses steel torsion springs on their trunk lids, so the lids are generally a good ground.

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DarwinX wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:06 am
I found a video on YouTube that basically confirms the lack of a lock/unlock fob for the base Versa. Figure I’d share that here if anyone is interested to see it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IHhu7Pebkg8
Your 2021 was a deal and about $1000 cheaper than a 2023. Did you know this is the last year for the 5 speed manual and the last 5 sp manual available in the US ? No word if they go to a 6 speed MT or CVT only.
As you can read above, you can pair a fob to a 2023 S trim. Just no trunk popper.

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The 2023 Versa S is $4,000 more than my 2019 Versa S which would add about $68/month to my monthly payment. While the 2023 is a bargain in today's market, that's a pretty big price jump in 4 years. My local Nissan dealer is selling Versas just as fast as they get them so I have yet to see one in person.

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I absolutely love this discussion thread. Who knew such a niche request like RKE fobs on a base Versa would get so much attention.

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Well, they show two part numbers for the trunk locks on the '22, but Parts can't tell me which one is electric. The p/n's are 84630-3AW0B and -3RA0A. If somebody with a '21 or '22 equipped with a trunk popper wants to PM me their VIN (or just the last 8, that's all Parts needs), I can run that though DPC and we can find out for sure which is which.

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By continuing to build the Versa in all of its varieties, I remain grateful that Nissan has not abandoned budget car buyers like so many other brands have done in recent years.

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Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:34 am
By continuing to build the Versa in all of its varieties, I remain grateful that Nissan has not abandoned budget car buyers like so many other brands have done in recent years.
Amen, Honda least expensive vehicle is an LX 2wd HRV costs $25,000+ . Used Low mileage 20’ LX base Fits $6,500 over original MSRP !!

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Wed Apr 26, 2023 10:36 am
Well, they show two part numbers for the trunk locks on the '22, but Parts can't tell me which one is electric. The p/n's are 84630-3AW0B and -3RA0A. If somebody with a '21 or '22 equipped with a trunk popper wants to PM me their VIN (or just the last 8, that's all Parts needs), I can run that though DPC and we can find out for sure which is which.
PM sent

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PM sent
Got it, I'll check sometime tomorrow.

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I stand corrected, Honda is building the Civic LX again priced $24,545, cheapest Honda. As stated above, thank you Nissan for the Versa S manual, reportedly '23 the last year of it.

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Okay, I got the skinny. The 84630-3RA0A is the electric lock. Nissan list is $126.84, and it should bolt into the same hole as the mechanical version.

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VStar650CL wrote:
Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:55 am
Okay, I got the skinny. The 84630-3RA0A is the electric lock. Nissan list is $126.84, and it should bolt into the same hole as the mechanical version.
And as you posted earlier it’s $80.00 from various sources with an online search.
Thank you for looking this up. Is the BCM up under the drivers side dash, is it hard to get to? I’m asking for others as I’m good with the non power trunk.

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Pretty easy. I've only had one apart, but IIRC it's mounted vertically left of the steering column, all you need to do is loosen the left lower dash.

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Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:01 pm
Ok, this is it. I drove to a dealer to look at a 2022 Versa S with 1 fob. The fob trunk popper works!!! It appears that there is no lock cylinder on the trunk or on the right front passenger door. So in 22’ you got a power trunk actuator! I also noted that 22’ had steel wheels but has a fold down rear seat. I looked at the monroney sticker on the car fax and it was not extra. So the 2022 was a better deal new compared to a 2023. The FDRS is part of a $1000 S+ package in 23’ along with 16” alum wheels.

So this explains why there is no fob for 2023 S trim, they have further decontented the S trim for 23’, but raised the price, and buyers would have been disappointed that the fob trunk release would not work, which would precipitate service calls.

I also noted that the key blank is fixed to the fob with a small dowel pin mounted in black rubber or jb weld like material and NOT a tiny screw!!

So, in conclusion, and your all welcome for all this info, if you just want a remote to use with your factory keys, get a 28260-5EA1A fob(s) $142 and have a locksmith program the BCM for door function and panic button but no trunk popper. OR, Buy the outdated electronics eBay fobs as above just for the switch blade key and change out the circuit guts, cut the key and get it programmed and put away your factory keys.
You still won’t have the trunk popper, but it will be all in one, like in 2022. Be sure to have ALL keys and fobs present for programming at one time by the LS.

Or get the H0561-5EF0C fob/key combo for an astounding $336 and have them cut and programmed along with your factory keys, you still won’t have trunk popper.

Try to order on line from Nissanusa parts site during one of their sales.
The pics below are the lockless 22’ trunk lid and a blurry key fob dowel pin. The salesman was wondering what I was doing and I had to hurry.

Thank you again VStar, you are a star!!

Peace out, Good luck everyone
Correction Sorry
The fob w/o key is 28268-5EA1A
The fob with key is H0561-5eF0C

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vic831 wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 12:37 am
Correction Sorry
The fob w/o key is 28268-5EA1A
The fob with key is H0561-5eF0C
Thanks so much for this thread, I am new to Nissan and just took delivery of a 2023 Versa S manual.
My first reaction when taking the keys was, "where is the door lock/unlock remote?!", so I did an internet search and stumbled upon this.
Now I realize I am late to the game and prior years had much more content (including key fob) for less money *sigh*.
Anyways, after reading through this thread a few times now, I feel confident enough to order the fob w/o key and have a local locksmith program it.
In the back of my mind I am tempted to have someone install the trunk motor, but sounds more involved since I would have to run a wire to the BCM?

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jlert wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 10:17 am
In the back of my mind I am tempted to have someone install the trunk motor, but sounds more involved since I would have to run a wire to the BCM?
Yes, but we can certainly help you out with that. The actuator itself should be a straight bolt-up, and pinning the BCM connectors isn't as daunting as it looks. Just raid the JY for a similar BCM connector off any model so you'll have a pinned wire for a pigtail.


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