2012 Rogue SV AWD Lock Speed

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Hello,

I am sure its been asked many times, but on a 2012 Rogue what speed does the AWD Lock disengage? I tried searching the forums, and some people say 6mph, some say 25, some say 35mph. Does anyone know what it is, or does it vary on scenarios? Just trying to figure out when I turn it on, and I am in deep snow etc, at what point once I start moving is it not 50/50 anymore. Thanks in advance


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mvjunkie wrote:Hello,

I am sure its been asked many times, but on a 2012 Rogue what speed does the AWD Lock disengage? I tried searching the forums, and some people say 6mph, some say 25, some say 35mph. Does anyone know what it is, or does it vary on scenarios? Just trying to figure out when I turn it on, and I am in deep snow etc, at what point once I start moving is it not 50/50 anymore. Thanks in advance
Well as far as I know it hasn't changed for the 2012 model. It's 6mph which is about 25km/h (kilometers per hour). I've never heard anyone suggesting it's at 35mph.

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Actually, I think that by default, the AWD will revert to FWD past 6 mph, unless you select AWD Lock, in which case all four wheels will remain engaged up to 25 mph.

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Hugo L. wrote:Actually, I think that by default, the AWD will revert to FWD past 6 mph, unless you select AWD Lock, in which case all four wheels will remain engaged up to 25 mph.
Thanks for the responses.

Anyway to confirm this?

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mvjunkie wrote:
Hugo L. wrote:Actually, I think that by default, the AWD will revert to FWD past 6 mph, unless you select AWD Lock, in which case all four wheels will remain engaged up to 25 mph.
Thanks for the responses.

Anyway to confirm this?
http://www.manualslib.com/manual/111845 ... ml?page=14
AWD LOCK SWITCH (if so equipped)
Each time you push the lower part of the AWD LOCK switch, the AWD mode will switch as follows: AUTO → LOCK → AUTO.
Select AUTO or LOCK mode, depending on the driving conditions.
LOCK MODE: For driving on rough roads.
Push the lower part of the AWD LOCK switch when the vehicle is stopped or driving less than 6 MPH (10 km/h). The AWD LOCK indicator light in the instrument panel will illuminate.
LOCK mode will change to AUTO mode automatically when the vehicle speed is over
approximately 6 MPH (10 km/h).
LOCK mode will automatically be cancelled when the ignition switch is placed in the
OFF position.
AUTO MODE:bFor driving on paved or slippery roads.
Push the lower part of the switch. The AWD LOCK indicator light will go off.

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http://www.manualslib.com/manual/111845 ... ml?page=14
AWD LOCK SWITCH (if so equipped)
Each time you push the lower part of the AWD LOCK switch, the AWD mode will switch as follows: AUTO → LOCK → AUTO.
Select AUTO or LOCK mode, depending on the driving conditions.
LOCK MODE: For driving on rough roads.
Push the lower part of the AWD LOCK switch when the vehicle is stopped or driving less than 6 MPH (10 km/h). The AWD LOCK indicator light in the instrument panel will illuminate.
LOCK mode will change to AUTO mode automatically when the vehicle speed is over
approximately 6 MPH (10 km/h).
LOCK mode will automatically be cancelled when the ignition switch is placed in the
OFF position.
AUTO MODE:bFor driving on paved or slippery roads.
Push the lower part of the switch. The AWD LOCK indicator light will go off.
I'm confused about this as well, per the writing on the manual, the description on "LOCK MODE" to be exact. I thought thats how it works even without turning on the lock mode so what's really the point of locked mode if it goes back to FWD when it reaches 10km /h.

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ImStricken wrote:1. everytime you start driving from 0mph and reach 6mph its in AWD. once you drive past 6mph it turns off and goes to FWD.

2. if your car senses wheel slip - it will quickly engage AWD at what it wants as a power ratio.

3. if your stuck and standstill, and want to get out - engage AWD LOCK to get a 50/50 power split ratio and try slowly to get out.(thats all that feature is for)

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It kinda sucks that it really is a FWD vehicle then, unless wheelspin is detected. I prefer to be in AWD before it actually spins, especially at 30mph +.

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Hugo L. wrote:It kinda sucks that it really is a FWD vehicle then, unless wheelspin is detected. I prefer to be in AWD before it actually spins, especially at 30mph +.
Might I suggest this site: http://www.allpar.com/eek/k/SUVs.html
There's a "secret" about "4WD" vehicles and, unless you've spent some time around the animals, it's easy to miss. Most new owners don't know it.

Almost all of those 4WDs running around out there are not four wheel drive at all!

Oh yes, they say that they are four wheel drive, the owners buy them because they think they are four wheel drive, and they have the hardware to become four wheel drive. However, most are part time four wheel drive, which means that when you are driving around town, you must be in two wheel drive. You can only use four wheel drive when in loose terrain or you will damage the drivetrain.

There are some exceptions. Land Rover / Range Rover, along with the Toyota Land Cruisers, have good lockable full time systems. Most of the other so-called full time systems are really automatic part time. However, the majority of the so-called 4WDs sold out there are part time, and the buyers have no comprehension that if they don't go off-road, they have a two wheel drive vehicle with inferior handling and braking, lousy gas mileage, and poor safety standards.
Full Time, On and Off Road

The following have a real full time off-road system, and a locking mechanism between front and rear, so they really are developed to operate in four wheel drive on the road and give excellent off-road capabilities too. This is the ideal set-up, and there are several ways to accomplish it, some good, some better. Unfortunately, it is the most expensive, too.

Land Rover Discovery
Land Rover Defender
Range Rover
Toyota / Lexus Land Cruiser
Mitsubishi Montero
Jeep Grand Cherokee (optional)
Mercedes ML-320 (electronic locking, but body design not for heavy off-roading)

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I knew about that. And I know about differences between various 4x4 systems, but my Subaru is also an "AWD" car, and it's ot the same thing at all,

Oh well. No big deal. I really like it, and my gf who will be driving it most of the time will be safe in it.

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According to the Nissan website http://www.nissanusa.com/rogue.html#/ke ... rformance/ (slide 3 - 5) , the Rogue also goes into awd mode when cornering (at any speed), to shift the power from the front, to the rear for added stability. I can tell you that the awd handles much better than the 2wd version, since i test drove both before making a purchase. so i disagree with the statement by allpar (except gas mileage is slightly lower, but NOT lousy)-
However, the majority of the so-called 4WDs sold out there are part time, and the buyers have no comprehension that if they don't go off-road, they have a two wheel drive vehicle with inferior handling and braking, lousy gas mileage, and poor safety standards.

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we dont have a locking differential as one might think. what we have is a clutch that sits between the differential and the propeller shaft, that will engage when wheel slip is detected, corning, or the lock switch is engaged.

a locking differential is what trucks have. when one wheel in the rear begins to slip, at a certain RPM of the rear wheel, it will engage a centrifugal mechanism, and lock-up the other-side that's not spinning (since energy always go to the path of least resistance - and that happens to be the wheel that's slipping).


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