2010 Rogue Aftermarket Stereo & SW Controls

[nightslide]

Hi there, I've got two things I'm hoping someone might be able to help me with. I'll write them in separate posts for ease of answering, and thank you in advance. (I didn't see anything like this elsewhere on the forum, and I know my Rogue is old, but still terrific)

I have a 2010 Rogue, SL package, and recently had the stereo swapped out for an aftermarket one, with a backup camera installed (what a game changer!). It's this stereo, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005 ... 1802R3aBgl, the 8GB, 128GB version in 10") and I'm mostly pretty happy with it, it is Android Auto (CarPlay as well, though I don't have iPhone). There is a built in app for steering wheel controls, and the place I had it installed was able to map the controls, except the Phone and Hangup buttons. He told me that it was because those were Bluetooth.

For the same reason, he installed an external microphone, as he said there was no way to connect to the built in microphone.

I'm hoping you can help me with 3 things.

1. How can I set up the phone/hangup buttons to my Steering Wheel controls. Is there an adaptor or something I can use? I'm more than willing to spend money on a good steering wheel adaptor to get a better setup.

2. With the above, I know with my company truck, I can get a different input with different button presses (press/vs long press). With a different steering wheel adaptor, is this possible with my Rogue? That would be terrific.

3. Is there any (feasible) way to use the existing mic? The external one he installed is on the A pillar, is in the way of the visor, and sounds just awful. I'd really like to
a) use the existing one.
b) if that's not possible, at least get a really good one, and put it in the spot where the factory one is, so that it's out of the way, makes for a clean install, and sounds as good as the factory one. If this is the only option, can anyone recommend a really good mic?

Thanks very much!

[VStar650CL]

They're correct that the telephone functions went through a separate "Telephone Adaptor", but the phone buttons on the wheel did not go to a different place. The switch signals simply went to both the adaptor and the radio (AV Unit), with each unit only acting on signals that applied to it. You can see the resistor ladder setup on AV-136 here, the phone and hangup buttons just produce an extra set of voltages on the ladder.
https://www.nicoclub.com/service-manual ... 0%2FAV.pdf

The bottom line is, if your new radio has configurable switch voltages then the installers didn't configure it right for using the telephone buttons, if the voltages are hard coded and not configurable then you're probably SOL.

The mic is a different story, you can probably use it but you'll need to locate and tap the wires at the Phone Adaptor. The mic didn't go to the AV connections like the wheel switches, only to the Adaptor. See AV-135.

[nightslide]

Apologies for the delay, I will look at both of those and see if I can figure this out. I really appreciate your help, this is terrific!
Apologies for the silly question, how do I tell if the radio has configurable switch voltages?

I'll look more into this, but I may have silly questions, thank you so much for the help!

[VStar650CL]

Apologies for the silly question, how do I tell if the radio has configurable switch voltages?

You need to consult the technical manual for the radio, which hopefully is a) available, and b) not written in Chinglish. If it is configurable, then you need to hope it either a) has the right native configuration for the Rogue phone buttons, or b) can be given a set of custom voltages which vector to custom functions. In many cases aftermarket radios let you "teach" them the functionality of inputs, but it can get complicated.

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I am looking at updating my 2013 Nissan Rogue stereo head unit too. I have replaced the factory speakers and I am doing the rest in stages.

To ensure that your steering wheel controls work with an aftermarket radio, you need an adapter.

This is one that I have used successfully in another car and plan to use it in my Rogue also.

It is called Metra Axxess ASWC-1 Steering Wheel Control Interface

https://a.co/d/02az9sxD

[nightslide]

Thank you for this, I'm going to check that out. I've never used something like that, is it easy, and will that 'just work' for the different voltages that are mentioned above?

Thank you both for all your help!

[[email protected]]

The Axxess steering wheel interface is the easiest to install of all the ones available in the market place. It is preprogrammed to specific cars. Other less expensive ones require you to manually program them.

Below is the product page. You can enter your car and get a feel for the installation process.

If you have any technical questions, you should call their tech support. They are very knowledgeable and helpful.

https://axxessinterfaces.com/product/ASWC-1

[nightslide]

The Axxess steering wheel interface is the easiest to install of all the ones available in the market place. It is preprogrammed to specific cars. Other less expensive ones require you to manually program them.

Below is the product page. You can enter your car and get a feel for the installation process.

If you have any technical questions, you should call their tech support. They are very knowledgeable and helpful.

https://axxessinterfaces.com/product/ASWC-1

Thank you very much, I'll reach out to them!

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I discovered something about the telephone switches on the steering wheel while working on upgrading my 2013 Nissan Rogue car radio. Those buttons are triggered by a Bluetooth module sitting in the trunk that must be bypassed when upgrading the OEM car headunit. The bluetooth way of answering phones is old technology in the 1st gen rogues.

[VStar650CL]

They're correct that the telephone functions went through a separate "Telephone Adaptor", but the phone buttons on the wheel did not go to a different place. The switch signals simply went to both the adaptor and the radio (AV Unit), with each unit only acting on signals that applied to it. You can see the resistor ladder setup on AV-136 here, the phone and hangup buttons just produce an extra set of voltages on the ladder.
https://www.nicoclub.com/service-manual ... 0%2FAV.pdf

I discovered something about the telephone switches on the steering wheel while working on upgrading my 2013 Nissan Rogue car radio. Those buttons are triggered by a Bluetooth module sitting in the trunk that must be bypassed when upgrading the OEM car headunit. The bluetooth way of answering phones is old technology in the 1st gen rogues.

As I mentioned earlier, the phone buttons on the gen1 Rogues go to both the AV Unit and the BT Adaptor. That isn't true on all models, but for the Rogues nothing needs to be bypassed. The BT Adaptor just needs to be disconnected and the new head unit configured (or adapted externally with something like the Axxess) to recognize the button signals.

[[email protected]]

They're correct that the telephone functions went through a separate "Telephone Adaptor", but the phone buttons on the wheel did not go to a different place. The switch signals simply went to both the adaptor and the radio (AV Unit), with each unit only acting on signals that applied to it. You can see the resistor ladder setup on AV-136 here, the phone and hangup buttons just produce an extra set of voltages on the ladder.
https://www.nicoclub.com/service-manual ... 0%2FAV.pdf

I discovered something about the telephone switches on the steering wheel while working on upgrading my 2013 Nissan Rogue car radio. Those buttons are triggered by a Bluetooth module sitting in the trunk that must be bypassed when upgrading the OEM car headunit. The bluetooth way of answering phones is old technology in the 1st gen rogues.

As I mentioned earlier, the phone buttons on the gen1 Rogues go to both the AV Unit and the BT Adaptor. That isn't true on all models, but for the Rogues nothing needs to be bypassed. The BT Adaptor just needs to be disconnected and the new head unit configured (or adapted externally with something like the Axxess) to recognize the button signals.

https://support.metraonline.com/axswc/a ... ctions-873

The metra site says that,"WANT TO KEEP YOUR PHONE BUTTONS?
In select Nissan vehicles, the On-Hook, Off-Hook, and Push-to-Talk buttons are routed through the factory Bluetooth, which is lost when the OE radio is removed.

If you wish to utilize the Bluetooth buttons on the steering wheel with an aftermarket radio, you must bypass the factory Bluetooth module using the instructions below. "

So I am a bit confused.

[VStar650CL]

No, on second look I think they're right. That WD is a little funky, but you probably do need to loop back the wires at the BT Adaptor and not just pull the fuse. I know for certain the circuit is a pass-through inside the BT, but there may be stuff connected internally that kills the signal if you don't wire around it.