2010 EX Changes

[audtatious]

2010 Infiniti EXThe 2010 Infiniti EX35 combines sports car style and performance, the 4-door convenience of a luxury sedan and the cargo area of an SUV – all wrapped up in a sleek, sculpted, elegant skin. Like every Infiniti model, the EX35 emphasizes exhilarating driving performance, combining an advanced 297-horsepower 3.5-liter V6 engine, standard 5-speed automatic transmission and available Intelligent All-Wheel Drive.

The 2010 Infiniti EX continues to offer an engaging interior environment with a long list of available features, including standard leather-appointed seating and RearView Monitor, and available driver’s seat headrest coat hanger, advanced audio systems and power-folding 2nd row seat.

EX offers a host of available technologies. The Around View Monitor Package utilizes four small cameras located front, side and rear to give the driver a “top-down view” of the outside of the vehicle and help reduce blind spots when parking. Other driving aids include Lane Departure Prevention system (LDP), Intelligent Cruise Control, Distance Control Assist (DCA) and Intelligent Brake Assist (IBA) with Forward Collision Warning.

The 2010 Infiniti EX35 goes on sale in fall 2009.

Changes for 2010 include:

* Revised option package selection and content, including the addition of Around View Monitor to the Bose® and Around View Monitor Package and availability of navigation as a stand-alone package (previously part of Bose® and Navigation Package) * Standard heated front seats on EX35 AWD * Standard heated outside mirrors on EX35 * Standard auto on/off headlights * Standard Bluetooth® Hands-free Phone System on EX Journey models * Addition of optional Advanced Climate Control System (ACCS) * Addition of USB Connection Port with Infiniti Interface System for iPod® (standard on all models) * Addition of 2GB Music Box hard drive to the Bose® Premium Audio system on vehicles without the Infiniti Hard Drive Navigation system * Addition of Bluetooth® Streaming Audio, XM NavWeather® and Zagat® Restaurant Guide features to the Infiniti Hard Drive Navigation system (XM® subscription required, sold separately)

[BROUDIE]

Where did this info come from? Interesting that they will be selling the 2010 EX less than 6 months after the 2009 EX.

Also interesting is that they are not bringing the Euro/JDM EX37 over.

[tippytom3501]

Will earlier models (ie 2008) be able to upgrade nav system to include the streaming music and zagat guides?

[jmess]

Where did this info come from? Interesting that they will be selling the 2010 EX less than 6 months after the 2009 EX.

Also interesting is that they are not bringing the Euro/JDM EX37 over.

Without direct injection to improve MPG, the 3.7 for power, and a 7 speed auto the 2010 really has nothing to offer over the 2008. Very few people would upgrade just for a little more leg room in the back seat; if that actually happens.

[audtatious]

Where did this info come from?

From Nissan

[EXceptional]

As I look over that list, I say to myself... not much has changed.

I think I have all or most of that Junk in some form or variation.

I'll hold out until the Eight or Nine Speed comes out !

As for more Leg Room in the Back... I heard all they were going to do, was scoop out the "Backs" of the Front Seats a little more, to give your Knees some space.

[Timmbo]

It will be nice when we get the 7-spd auto and the 3.7, then we can really have some fun with the EX35

[MinisterofDOOM]

Also interesting is that they are not bringing the Euro/JDM EX37 over.

My thoughts exactly. Why do we get the short stick again? Giving the euro market the bigger engine is backward.

[jmess]

Nissan is probably trying to make the FX35 appear to be a steup up from the EX35. More power and more gears; some consumers aren't very good at connecting the dots.

[scottt]

I feel the 35 motor we have in the EX is great. I did a little research and found the 37 motor to be much more complicated. You are required to use high priced ester motor oil etc. You get a little more horsepower but it required a much more complicated machine to do it. The 35 motor will be less expensive to maintain, I also like the fact that our 35 motor is a major revision. Nissan claims 80% of the parts were changed. I do agree with everyone on the transmission, a 6 or 7 speed automatic would have been nice.

Scott

[BROUDIE]

Exactly, 7 speed auto would be nice. Might even help with that hesitation when I floor the gas.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Nissan is probably trying to make the FX35 appear to be a steup up from the EX35. More power and more gears; some consumers aren't very good at connecting the dots.

Yeah, I imagine you're right and it's a marketing thing more than anything.I wish Nissan would stop worrying so much about stepping on it's own toes, though. The FX and EX are very different cars...more than just the motor is different. If I was shopping for an FX, I wouldn't want an EX...even if it had a bigger motor...or else I'd be shopping for an EX instead. But I guess people who really know what they want in a car aren't all that common. Most people need to be "sold."

[AWGD8]

I`ll trade in mine once the 12 speed EX35 is available with 6 gears reverse option...

[inteller]

Yeah, I imagine you're right and it's a marketing thing more than anything.I wish Nissan would stop worrying so much about stepping on it's own toes, though. The FX and EX are very different cars...more than just the motor is different. If I was shopping for an FX, I wouldn't want an EX...even if it had a bigger motor...or else I'd be shopping for an EX instead. But I guess people who really know what they want in a car aren't all that common. Most people need to be "sold."

you are right, one is a fat pig that needs more than a 3.5 to move it and the other doesn't.

it is pretty sad when an FX35 can barely overtake my little 4 banger at highways speeds....in my EX it would be an embarassment.

this is really nothing more than shuffling existing options around. looks like more things become standard which just means the base price will increase.

Although it does look like a minor revision of the navigation hardware/software is available. NavWeather would be nice. I can already do the bluetooth streaming through the iPod interface. I think it is sucky that they now include a USB port when that should have been standard from the get go.

hopefully the new system will support UNICODE too. not all of us listen to western european character set music.

Modified by inteller at 12:27 PM 8/7/2009
Modified by inteller at 12:29 PM 8/7/2009

[gbear]

Remember, when they came out with the G-37 coupe and still had the G-35 sedan, the G-35 woud beat the G-37 in both 0-60 and in the quarter mile. The 2007 G-35 is still the fastest G out there. All the auto magazines had the same results...the 35 is more powerful than the 37 even if they claim more horses for the 37.

[jaboz]

they probably just have a pile of 5 speed transmissions left over and need to use them up before they start with 7 speeds.

[scottt]

I do wonder about one thing on the 7 speed automatic. Infiniti uses the 7 speed automatic in the M35, they use the 5 speed in the M45. They use the 5 speed automatic in the Q56. They seem to use the 5 speed when a heavy duty automatic is needed, the 7 speed is used with lower horsepower models. The only exception seems to be the EX35. I am just wondering outloud.

Scott

[MinisterofDOOM]

I do wonder about one thing on the 7 speed automatic. Infiniti uses the 7 speed automatic in the M35, they use the 5 speed in the M45. They use the 5 speed automatic in the Q56. They seem to use the 5 speed when a heavy duty automatic is needed, the 7 speed is used with lower horsepower models. The only exception seems to be the EX35. I am just wondering outloud.

Scott

It has more to do with model age than anything. The 7 speed is actually stronger than the 5 speed. But it's also very new...newer than all the cars you mention except the EX. The Q45 died in 2006, before the 7 speed even went into use. And the M went into production in 2005, long before the 7 speed was in use, and is ready for replacement (in fact the new M is to be revealed today at Pebble Beach and live on the web).

The FX is a brand-new model, and the G I guess is important enough to get the upgrade. Not sure why the EX doesn't get that upgrade, though.

[yellowbear]

Be careful what you wish for. I would like to point out from experience that the 7-speed automatic I had in my Lexus was the worst transmission I have ever had. I traded it in on the EX 35 5 speed and am so much happier. The only positive thing about the 7 speed in the Lexus was the improved mileage. It was worse in acceleration, braking (because of the hunting downshift) and quite unreliable. That transmission was one of the reasons Lexus dropped in quality in CY 2008. I was member of the ES350 forum for 3 years and the biggest complaint was the transmission. Many were replaced. I am glad the EX35 doesn't have a new, complicated, 7 speed auto although I wish it did have a 6 speed overdrive to help on mileage. I think the addition of DI (it will be nosier) with a 6 speed OD would improve the mileage. Yellowbear

[audtatious]

Remember, when they came out with the G-37 coupe and still had the G-35 sedan, the G-35 woud beat the G-37 in both 0-60 and in the quarter mile. The 2007 G-35 is still the fastest G out there. All the auto magazines had the same results...the 35 is more powerful than the 37 even if they claim more horses for the 37.

I strongly disagree. I have both....

[scottt]

I feel the ex35's powertain is pretty darn good. The 3.5L HR motor is updated, strong and appears a lot simplier than the 3.7L motor. Not putting the 3.7L down, just feel the 3.5HR is a great powerplant that will hold up without some of the added complexities of the 3.7L motor. The fact that you need ester motor oil in the 3.7L say's it all. I checked with Mobil One, they told me that they did not recommend Mobil one in the 3.7L engine, it works just fine in the 3.5L. I ask myself, what is so complicated on the 3.7L to require ester oil? I also feel the 5 speed is more adiquite. The 7 speed might turn out to be the best transmisson ever, we just don't know. I think the powertrain used in the EX35 is exceptional, maybe not the ultimate, but pretty darn good. As a side note, I compared the Nissan Mirando to the EX35, the price difference for the Nissan vs the Infiniti with similar options was about 4 grand. For the 4 grand you get rear wheel drive vs front wheel drive, you get a 5 speed automatic vs the continiously variable transmission, you get the much improved 3.5L HR motor vs the 3.5L DE. That is just the drivetrain, The Infiniti offers so much more value in my view. The best drivetrain value for your money.

Scott

[bhjazz]

"Fall 2010", eh? Are there any real dates? Sightings?

I have read a few articles that say the rear leg room and cargo space will be updated. I can only imagine that means a body design change.While I'll probably wait for the '10, it seems like most of the bugs have been worked out for the '09 so it may be the better of the two. When a mfr makes body changes and all that, it always needs a few thousand cars on the road to get it working right.

Otherwise, it's been quite difficult to find any info on the '10 model other than the standard blurbs. You'd think if Infiniti was having trouble selling this model that they would give it a media blitz.
Modified by bhjazz at 10:37 AM 9/17/2009

[scottt]

I don't think Infiniti is really having a problem selling the 09's, there is less than 150 new ex35's nationwide on autotrader.com. The problem is, they are offering pretty good deals to make the sales happen. My guess, they will keep 09 production inline with demand, make changes to the 2010 and hope they can hold a higher price. The trend amoung most manufactures right now is to lower production, inline with demand and try to hold higher prices. It's all about profit. My advice, if you don't really need a big back seat, go for the 09. I think the used 08 prices are too close to what you can buy a 09 for. Just my opionion, for the little it is worth. I will pay 4 or 5 grand more, anyday for a brand new car with the options I want in a color I like.Scott

[bhjazz]

Well, more than one article I've read online (I'll have to find where it was) was very clear that the EX had only sold half of what Nissan/Infinit expected, and that is what propmted the increase in rear seat room and cargo space. And no, this wasn't a review by some geek who posted on twitter or something...haha..

Well, an interesting dillemma, anyway. Doesn't matter, the EX is definitely on my final consideration list and I think it's a great vehicle.

Still, any idea when the 2010 would be available? If I want to grab an '09, how quickly should I move? Thanks!

[scottt]

If you go with a 09, I don't think you need to hurry. The dealer cash incentive ends 09/30/09, I bet they come out with another incentive. They might let it go for 30 days or so, my guess is you would have incentives back for the Thanksgiving weekend sales. If you don't buy this month, I would wait for one of the holiday weekends, selection might be better then as well. My only concern moving forward is the value of the dollar, it keeps droping vs the yen, at some point it is going to make cars imported from Japan more expensive.

Scott

[JCL622]

If you go with a 09, I don't think you need to hurry. The dealer cash incentive ends 09/30/09, I bet they come out with another incentive. They might let it go for 30 days or so, my guess is you would have incentives back for the Thanksgiving weekend sales. If you don't buy this month, I would wait for one of the holiday weekends, selection might be better then as well. My only concern moving forward is the value of the dollar, it keeps droping vs the yen, at some point it is going to make cars imported from Japan more expensive.

Scott

depends on where you live and how badly you need that car.

If you live in a high volume area of j crew toting MILFs...(Long Island, OC, Short hills, Manhattan)/young men who were forced to grow up and ditch their sport sedans... then you can probably wait because dealers in those areas will probably order more, but if you live in ..a normal city, then maybe you want to jump on it or start talking with the dealerships

i'm glad they are "adding"(carving?) more room in the '10 models, but it's not going to solve the niche this car fills. -

[inteller]

If you live in a high volume area of j crew toting MILFs...(Long Island, OC, Short hills, Manhattan)

best post I've read in a while......new license plate MILFGTR that could be read two different ways MILF getter or MILF's GT-R

[scottt]

Several web sites claim the 2010 EX35 has been released. They show the prices stayed the same as 2009. They made a few changes to the options, they did not say anything about the rear seat changing, they did not change the body at all. The 2010 EX35 still offers the 3.5L V6 and 5 speed automatic.

Scott

[bhjazz]

It looks like the information on the '10 was released 9/23/09. Here are a few links (just to make this topic complete):http://blog.caranddriver.com/i...34665/ ... co....html