200SX CA18DET Upgrades?

[Terence.t3]

Hi All,

I'm sure there has been a question like this before but for the life of me I can't find it.

I recently bought a 200SX with the CA18DET Motor in it, here is a list of the upgrades it has:

T3/T4 Turbo (Chinese - the idiot before me was a cheapskate)
Free flow 3" exhaust.
Front Mount Intercooler
Cone filter (again a cheap crappy filter)
Dlcktator - Wasted Spark management system
3 Pod Button Clutch
ARP Studs and Crank bolts
400cc injectors
18" Rims with crap tyres

At the moment the car is running 147 KW on the rear wheels at 0.8 Bar boost (Can't run more as the injectors are maxed)

Now my question is..... what will I need to upgrade to be able to get up to roughly 350 KW (470odd HP) (BMW M3's are really popular in South Africa and I don't like it when they run away from me!! )

I still need to use the car as a daily runner, however when a M3 pulls up next to me i want to know that i will be infront of him all the way down the track

Next upgrades on the cards are:
Bigger Injectors (no idea what size to go for)
New Fuel Pump (again no idea what i will need)
New cone filter (looking at a K&N)
New Turbo (Had a look at the disco potato but that is only rated to 360HP and I'm worried the GTX3067R is going to have too much lag as my T3/T4 only spools 0.8bar at 4500RPM)

I have had a look at the Turbos in South Africa and they are ridiculous with their prices so if you know any online shops where I can get decent new parts for a decent price that would be greatly appreciated!

Please don't tell me to do an engine swap (for the price of a RB25DET fitted I'm sure I can get my car to 500HP if not more!!)

Thanks Guys!

[float_6969]

Is it chip tuned, or do you have a piggyback? If it's chip tuned, then you're going to have to plan on dealing with that.

As for hardware, you'll probably be in the 750cc range for injectors
Walbro 255lph HP should be fine, although Detchwerks sells a 300lph that's a very nice unit and about the same money
Stay away from the K&N (or any oiled filter for that matter) with the MAFS that you're running. I like AEM's Dryflow air filter (that's what I'm running in a 3")
Turbo is hard without knowing your budget. If money is no option, look at Borg Warner's EFR turbo's. They're top of the line IMHO.

[Sideways s12]

whats wrong with K&N? I thought they were good filters my wife has one on her dsm..

[Terence.t3]

Is it chip tuned, or do you have a piggyback? If it's chip tuned, then you're going to have to plan on dealing with that.

As for hardware, you'll probably be in the 750cc range for injectors
Walbro 255lph HP should be fine, although Detchwerks sells a 300lph that's a very nice unit and about the same money
Stay away from the K&N (or any oiled filter for that matter) with the MAFS that you're running. I like AEM's Dryflow <a class="vglnk" title="Link added by VigLink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Car-Truck-P ... ><span>air </span><span>filter</span></a> (that's what I'm running in a 3")
Turbo is hard without knowing your budget. If money is no option, look at Borg Warner's EFR turbo's. They're top of the line IMHO.

The dlcktator has been tuned before being tuned she was over fuelling like crazy (ran 127kw on the wheels). According to my tuner he can't get anything more out due to the injectors being maxed out.

With regards to the budget,I haven't got too much of a budget but I would like to do all the upgrades over time. At the moment I am trying to get all the info on what to do so that I can plan this build in a way that I will still have a running car at all times.

I'm not a mechanic so I don't know anything about cars and I'm asking here so that I don't get ripped off,cause my tuner knows that I don't know what's going on.

So any other feedback will be greatly appreciated!

Also some online shopping websites will be a great help.

[chalander]

Sideways12, I am making an assumption here, but I think the reason float mention that the k&n filters were a bad to run with specific mafs is because they are oiled. That's why he said, "(or any oiled filter for that matter)"


terence.t3,
First of all, welcome to Nico forums! - one thing you will need to include in your turbo budget are the lines for the turbo. I'm assuming they will b around 100$ + shipping!

[Izento]

Well, shipping to South Africa is what's going to kill you, but here are some American based websites. I also don't know how well your currency transfers over to ours, so you might have some luck trying to find an Australian dealer.
And also, Japan is closer to South Africa than California, United States is, so even getting parts from there will be less expensive.

California:
frsport.com
enjukuracing.com

Japan:
Nengun.com

[blownhemi]

Now my question is..... what will I need to upgrade to be able to get up to roughly 350 KW (470odd HP) (BMW M3's are really popular in South Africa and I don't like it when they run away from me!! )

I still need to use the car as a daily runner, however when a M3 pulls up next to me i want to know that i will be infront of him all the way down the track

You are aiming kinda high. That's a 3.2L, high-strung N/A engine, with flat-ish torque, 100+ HP/liter and a redline of 8000, STOCK. You will not be in front all the way, he will jump you at the start. You will be boosted, you have a weight advantage, you will get ahead, but you'll need to cover some distance first, and get into boost.

New Turbo (Had a look at the disco potato but that is only rated to 360HP and I'm worried the GTX3067R is going to have too much lag as my T3/T4 only spools 0.8bar at 4500RPM)

I doubt the GTX3076R will be laggy, and certainly not as laggy as a Chinese T3/T4. That said, my Chinese T3/T4 with a Chinese manifold was at 1 bar of boost around 4000-4200, with exhaust leaks at both head-manifold and manifold-turbo, so you might have issues there.

Well, shipping to South Africa is what's going to kill you, but here are some American based websites. I also don't know how well your currency transfers over to ours, so you might have some luck trying to find an Australian dealer.
And also, Japan is closer to South Africa than California, United States is, so even getting parts from there will be less expensive.

I've found, that any shipping from Australia is ridiciculously expensive. In any case, get yourself informed, look around, get the best deals. Do you know someone in the US, who can collect parts for you, and then send it as one package? It will definitely be cheaper than ordering things one by one, and paying the much inflated international shipping on each, separately.

[Sideways s12]

Sideways12, I am making an assumption here, but I think the reason float mention that the k&n filters were a bad to run with specific mafs is because they are oiled. That's why he said, "(or any oiled filter for that matter)"


terence.t3,
First of all, welcome to Nico forums! - one thing you will need to include in your turbo budget are the lines for the turbo. I'm assuming they will b around 100$ + shipping!

Thank you sir I never knew they would be an issue

[float_6969]

It's easy to over oil a K&N and then the oil can get onto the hot wire of the MAFS and cause it to malfunction.

[Sideways s12]

makes sense...