200k Q, should I?

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I went and looked at a red 1990 Q45 with 213k. The guy is asking $1500 but I think he would let it go for $600. The leather is worn, the power seat switches dont work (it still moves back and forth when you insert/remove the key).

No noise from the fuel pump.

The car shakes like crazy, which makes me think the motor mounts are worn. The shaking goes away when revved over 2500rpm. Could be injectors? The exhaust is leaking, the paint has peel spots on the top and on the bumper. Brake pads are worn.

Oil changes were done every 3000 miles, using Pennzoil. Not a synthetic or synth blend. The guy bought it at 150k three years ago, didnt do anything but oil changes and brakes. transmission fluid is okay but a flush probably wouldnt hurt.

For $600, add a couple grand for the basics. What do you guys think? Im taking the VIN to Plaza Infiniti (where it originally was purchased in 1990) to pull up records.

I didnt take it for a drive yet.

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Going from the frying pan into the fire strikes me, as does the word masochist. Doesn't sound like a vehicle for a student on a budget without unlimited funds to restore.

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It definitely wouldnt work for primary transportation. I doubt he'd ever sell it for his asking price. Perhaps it wouldnt make a terrible parts car, or something to take apart to build my knowledge.

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I dont know....Injectors can run quite high..

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Jesda,

You seem like a really good, smart guy and are an awesome member of this board. I really hope you don't take offense with what I'm about to say, but you are being ridiculous IMO for looking at a different Q than what you have. Here's why: You're not looking at a low-mileage Q. You're looking at a high-mileage, similar to what you have, for under $3,000. Why? I guess I'm just confused but I don't understand it. You've put plenty of work into your car and you KNOW what's been done and what hasn't. ALL it needs is chain guides and a couple minor things that you and Wes can tackle. I know spending $1,000 on guides doesn't appeal to you but, seriously, it's better than the alternative. If you get a different Q, or even that J, you're going to ultimately spend more money in the long run that you would spend on your current car. Take it from a guy who ran his to 255k. Keep your car. Do the guides. Love every minute of it.

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I somewhat disagree Nick.

However, you dont know the circumstances..... No biggie!

I talked with Jesda over the phone a few days ago about this J30, and the service records are all intact and golden. All dealer serviced, and oil chages were done at 3750 intervals, and the car used as a daily driver (I assume it was close to 90 days). he mentioned a little bit of varnish on the heads, which isnt a big deal at all...

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God, I'm getting a headache from the indecision.

I talked to Nick on AIM, and his points are very valid. But, I talked to Wes too, and... good god. You both make strong points.

One thing I forgot to mention to Nick, is that the minivan will most likely be traded this fall (Septemberish) and used to buy my brother a used car (the parents will probably get him a 5 year old Honda). He's starting college out of town soon. Its possible he wont want/need anything to drive at all. He'll be living on campus and doesn't care too much if he drives or not.

Giving up the free minivan (handed down to me after the parents stopped driving it) is my mandatory contribution, if you will, for the free food, shelter, tuition, and living expenses. Mom also paid for my $500 registration and licensing this year and $500 of the AC work last year on the Q.

Next spring I could pick up a lower-mileage 94 or 95. Im not as much concerned about what I already put in, as much as what I'll end up with in the end.

So I have to seriously think about whether to keep this Q. I'm going for another drive now to contemplate.

-Jesda

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Honest to God Jesda Id love to see you keep your Q, but with 2000 (1100 if you bring the car to me for some stuff).. For that price you get a perfect J30... ITS a really rough decision... it would be easier if you were considering a honda or something like that, no brainer right? But the J30 is a hell of a car.. Plus if you sell the Q for 3000, you buy the J30 for 2500 (after timing belt service) your good to go, and that 500 is pocketed cash (and I know you could use some cash)...

Keep the J for a year and then get into a nice 94-95 Q... Who knows, I may be ready to sell by then...

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You could not get a golden J30 for $2,000. It just won't happen. The truth of the matter is that, unless it's been religiously maintained by the dealer throughout the ENTIRE course of its life, you're going to need to work on some things.

Here's a quote from Jesda's earlier thread:"-The owner doesnt know if that included the timing belt -- records are not specifically indicative.Rear windows not functioning properly.Sunroof motor intermittent.-Lots of strange squeaks under the hood and an exhaust leak. I got the VIN number, which I'll be running through Plaza Infiniti tomorrow afternoon."

1. Timing belt and water pump would be about $750 from a non-dealer.2. Needs 2 new window regulators ($400)3. Needs new sunroof motor ($200)4. Needs exhaust repair and needs squeaks looked at. (Cost unknown)5. Needs new shocks unless they were replaced at 120k. (Cost $300)6. Will need a coolant flush, transmission flush, possible replacement of coolant-related products, needs radiator cored or replaced, etc. (Cost unknown)

AND...

After all of that is over, you've spent $3,650 on a J30 with 183,000 miles (this does not account for the Cost unknowns either). AND you still don't know if that is the end of it. At 183k, some things are going to need to be replaced, it's a fact. My Q at 81k needs some very minor work and it WAS dealer maintained from day 1 until I bought it.

My point being: you could sell your Q for $3,000, spend an extra $1,000 and still not know what you have and what will need to be done. OR You can save $1,500-$2,000 and have a Q45 that is well-maintained and you know what's been done to it.

Just one humble man's opinion

Nick :)

P.S. How many J30's on our board have made it to 250k?

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I am with Nick. Varnish on heads may well be indicative of a problem and while the varnish may be "golden", that is not good.__________________Brian1995 Q45 & Q45t & 2000 Q45

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However, wouldnt you say that this car would be good for about 20k, because Jesda only plans on keeping it for about 2 years.

Lets say he only puts on 20k, and only has a few problems. Even if he sells it for next to nothing, but has more money to get a 94-95 Q, wouldnt it be worth it??

I dont know, its his decision, but I think this J30 is a decent choice... We could do all those things real cheap, as junkyard Js should be easy to find.

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Graduate school usually demands a little more time each day than high school, unless one attends a high school with a very challenging curriculum.__________________Brian1995 Q45 & Q45t & 2000 Q45

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maxnix wrote:Graduate school usually demands a little more time each day than high school, unless one attends a high school with a very challenging curriculum.


Wtf?

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maxnix wrote:Graduate school usually demands a little more time each day than high school, unless one attends a high school with a very challenging curriculum.


Hmmm....Brian....

....maybe you should post here instead: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread/t-59538.html

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90Q45blue wrote:Wtf?
Wait until you get into graduate school, Nick, then you will understand. :cool:

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I dont get how it ties in to the thread...So I will say this: I prefer plastic over paper.

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maxnix wrote:Graduate school usually demands a little more time each day than high school, unless one attends a high school with a very challenging curriculum.


Is that where you learned how to make your sig with spiffy colors?

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I think Nick is currently in graduate school.

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In this photo... http://q.spilky.com/200k/100_0494.JPG

Why is the plenum brown?

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Jesda - I noticed that as well, my only guess is whatever oil based clean/shine product he uses/has used finally discolored it.

We used to have a product called "Zap", that they used in our stores to clean stuff, until finally it started to make things darken with that yellow-ish/brown color.

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Because the color spectrum has a shift [look at the yellow dip stick tops and the yellow label and the battery.

How many of you set the GAMMA and color pallete on your computer system with an optical spectrum analyser.

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Q45tech wrote:How many of you set the GAMMA and color pallete on your computer system with an optical spectrum analyser.


I do, I do!!! (For a change, I think I have a tool that not many people bother to worry about! :D )

I have a Colorvision SpyderPro (see http://www.colorvision.com/pro...d=241 for the details) that I use to adjust the screen on my CRT. Then, color adjustments (gamma, etc.) to make photo printouts and jpegs come out right are easy!

Sorry for the diversion ... now back to the regular programming ...

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Q45tech wrote:Because the color spectrum has a shift [look at the yellow dip stick tops and the yellow label and the battery.

How many of you set the GAMMA and color pallete on your computer system with an optical spectrum analyser.

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Let me add... it was brown when I saw it with my own eyes as well. My Kodak takes very good pictures. The pictures taken of my own plenum remain silver when displayed on screen.

This really is a brown plenum, folks. All the other yellow items in that picture really -are- yellow. What my eyes saw are identical to what the camera captured.

-Jesda

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It IS an asian car.....

COULDNT RESIST! :D

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BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

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Q45tech wrote:Because the color spectrum has a shift [look at the yellow dip stick tops and the yellow label and the battery.

How many of you set the GAMMA and color pallete on your computer system with an optical spectrum analyser.

http://www.immigration-usa.com/html_col ... index.html


Not only that, but I work in the dark. :)

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No, NO you guys are all wrong - it's Jaundice.

Actually see my other post about oily cleaners, after further review look how slippery the whole engine bay looks.

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Yep, the guy definitely put a layer of something on it, but it still didnt hide years of abuse and neglect. He should be ashamed...

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I looked at a local Q last year that was for sale and the plenum an throttle body was that same color.:) the cruise control cable bracket is also the same color.


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