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illjill wrote:awesome. I went last year, and it was the TITS! I wanna be in it!! though I highly doubt my car will be finished. ;-;
You know there are still a few months to go. Would be sweet watching a conquest get put thru its paces.
Chaotic_Warlord wrote:I'll be there but I'm not drifting this time, can't afford to blow up another engine, i just got my car back on the street from last May. Gonna be a busy couple of weeks cause the Nopi Spo-Com spring nationals is the weekend before. As long as nothing goes wrong between now and then and work doesn't have me I'll try to be there again this year, but this time I'm not blowing up my car.
Glad to hear the chariot is back on the road and that you'll be able to come.



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Chaotic_Warlord wrote:I'll be there but I'm not drifting this time, can't afford to blow up another engine, i just got my car back on the street from last May.
HA! I remember that!!! As for me, I dunno what car i'm bringing yet...

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99QX4 wrote:
HA! I remember that!!! As for me, I dunno what car i'm bringing yet...
its set- bring the G and I'll bring the T/A. No G, no T/A. We'll trade

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if my car's ready ill be rolling in with my team

this track tire friendly?

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eDmSiL80 wrote:if my car's ready ill be rolling in with my team

this track tire friendly?
Um it's not really much of a track, more like an asphalt sidewalk around a football field.


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Umm is there any way that I could attend if I'm under 18 is there I could like sign 9000 waivers or something to attend, I'd have my dad with me but I only have a NJ driving permit? I'd understand if I couldn't

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Chaotic_Warlord wrote:
Um it's not really much of a track, more like an asphalt sidewalk around a football field.
. Well, it's definately not Daytona, but the surface is relatively smooth for asphalt. It is a bit narrow in spots but the turns are going to be pretty tight and plentiful. If you push it hard and often during autocross, expect to use a couple 32nds I didn't find the track to be a "tire killer" and I tested it several laps before every autocross session last year.

There is debris that collects in the grass infield and off line. And that debris can get sprinkled on the course by those that go off track. It's mostly dirt, asphalt pebbles, and bits of rubber. We remove what we see between sessions, and our volunteer corner workers remove what they see during sessions. We plan to be more assertive with the brooms this year than we were last year.


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thefro526 wrote:Umm is there any way that I could attend if I'm under 18 is there I could like sign 9000 waivers or something to attend, I'd have my dad with me but I only have a NJ driving permit? I'd understand if I couldn't
With just a learner's permit, I'm afraid we can't permit you drive on the track. However, if you wanted to go out as a passenger with your dad driving, and you both have helmets, that's something we can discuss.

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As promised, here are a couple shots of the track. This shot, taken last year, is taken from the ridge overlooking the far end of the course. That's the PA turnpike in the background. The start/finish is at the opposite end. As mentioned earlier, the cones are not set up which really make the course challenging,Autocross will be run clockwise. (Drifting is driver choice) If you look closely at the picture, it is slightly uphill and increasingly on-camber coming around that large turn, and then transitions to off-camber in the rectangular section following it. It's an interesting course.



This next shot looks toward the start/finish area and the paddock is beyond. There is a slight downward incline at the end of the back straight, making the hard right turn into the second lap downhill and off-camber. . The blue barrels lined up in the background are located in the paddock




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Ok....so there's an outside shot Steph and I might come down on the Sunday since she graduates on Saturday. So put us down

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Bubba1 wrote:
With just a learner's permit, I'm afraid we can't permit you drive on the track. However, if you wanted to go out as a passenger with your dad driving, and you both have helmets, that's something we can discuss.
Thanks for the reply I guess I'll just have to be a spectator... Oh well Road-trip!!

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. Well, it's definately not Daytona, but the surface is relatively smooth for asphalt. It is a bit narrow in spots but the turns are going to be pretty tight and plentiful. If you push it hard and often during autocross, expect to use a couple 32nds I didn't find the track to be a "tire killer" and I tested it several laps before every autocross session last year.

There is debris that collects in the grass infield and off line. And that debris can get sprinkled on the course by those that go off track. It's mostly dirt, asphalt pebbles, and bits of rubber. We remove what we see between sessions, and our volunteer corner workers remove what they see during sessions. We plan to be more assertive with the brooms this year than we were last year.
It's a good piece of pavement if you autocross it but unless you have a purpose built drift car (ie the drift truck we had there last year) it's definately not a drift friendly track. I never got out of 2nd gear which led to plenty of over revs. Not to be a party pooper but to play Devil's Advocate I can honestly say from experience that while the surface may be tire friendly the track itself is definately hard on a car's drivetrain. I'll be there an may take a lap or two for the the autocross but I'll pass on the drift portion.

As far as drift friendly tracks go VIR is a better track to drift since it's wider and longer and you don't punish your clutch by staying in 2nd gear the whole time. Then again my car isn't exactly track ready so don't take my word for it.

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NSR G50 already mentioned me, but me and the Z will be there for some auto-x.

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nsrZ32 wrote:Ok....so there's an outside shot Steph and I might come down on the Sunday since she graduates on Saturday. So put us down
You got it
NSRsheets wrote:NSR G50 already mentioned me, but me and the Z will be there for some auto-x.
Awesome.

Chaotic Warlord: You are correct that it's probably a better course for autocross than drift. There are a couple narrow stretches on left side (closest to PA turnpike) but I think you'll agree there was still plenty of space to drift. And when you take into account the cost to drift at Carlisle (free), it's a great deal.


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Bubba1 wrote:Chaotic Warlord: You are correct that it's probably a better course for autocross than drift. There are a couple narrow stretches on left side (closest to PA turnpike) but I think you'll agree there was still plenty of space to drift. And when you take into account the cost to drift at Carlisle (free), it's a great deal.
Bubba you're correct but I just want to insure that attendees don't go into the the drift portion blind and stupid like I did last year and need to be towed home with a blown engine. I was fortunate to live within the 100 mile distance that my AAA coverage gave me. Like I said in my previous post I don't want to be a party pooper just looking out for fellow members and their beloved rides.

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Chaotic_Warlord wrote:
Bubba you're correct but I just want to insure that attendees don't go into the the drift portion blind and stupid like I did last year and need to be towed home with a blown engine. I was fortunate to live within the 100 mile distance that my AAA coverage gave me. Like I said in my previous post I don't want to be a party pooper just looking out for fellow members and their beloved rides.
That's excellent advice. For anyone that participates in an event like this, or any other "track" day for that matter, if you're not trailering your car to/from the event, you should keep in mind how hard you want to push your car throughout the event. The goal is to have fun with your car and still be able to drive it home.


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Ok so count Ron and I in with my G....

When is the hotel info and all that gonna be up? Or is it up already and i completely missed it?

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99QX4 wrote:Ok so count Ron and I in with my G....

When is the hotel info and all that gonna be up? Or is it up already and i completely missed it?
Terrific, you're both in Good question about the hotel info. I don't have anything on it yet, but I'll be happy to make some inquiries .

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99QX4 wrote:When is the hotel info and all that gonna be up? Or is it up already and i completely missed it?
For those interested in any information on the Carlisle event keep watch on this thread...

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there's nothing posted in it yet but I'm sure Greg and company will post info in it as soon as they know anything.

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Yeah, i have been watching that...and will continue to

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99QX4 wrote:Yeah, i have been watching that...and will continue to
Okay, hotel accomodations have not yet been discussed. Once I find out where 'da guys are planning to stay, I'll be happy to advise.

I stayed at the Hotel Carlisle last time and it was pretty nice.

And I believe Torry will be putting some info in that thread soon.

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So I can't enter if I'm only 16? :[ I really wish I could but I'll be there to watch!

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ILoveMyRHS13 wrote:So I can't enter if I'm only 16? :[ I really wish I could but I'll be there to watch!
Correct, you gotta be 18 to drive the course. Im afraid that's a rule we can't bend. But I'm glad to hear you're coming down.

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Bubba1 wrote:
Wow, we're about the same distance. For me it's 2 hrs, 25 minutes. Total Est. Distance: 141.23 miles.

You're free to come and go as you please. The Carlisle Performance and Style Show has a LOT of great stuff going on throughout the 3 days, in addition to NICOfest. The drifting is going to be featured by Carlisle, so there will not likely be much else going on there during the drifting. They will provide me those "show"times, and I'll post them up with the rest of their features/activity schedules as soon as they become available.
Cool. Im taking it thats its single runs , no quali w/ tandems right? Im leaning towards no....but im still stoked about coming to this.

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Cool. Im taking it thats its single runs , no quali w/ tandems right? Im leaning towards no....but im still stoked about coming to this.
There's just enough room on the track for one car and coming out of the bottom corners thats sometimes pushing it.

Bubba looking forward to watching you guys drift the golf cart again this year. Do you know if Deiselman will be there again this year cause his truck is badass?

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I have some questions for the people that have been here before....

Red Dots - Is that about the size of a narrow one lane road?

Blue Dots - Is this say , a turn around area?

Yellow Dots - Entrance?



Am i corrected in thinking that the entire course looks like this by connecting these 2 pics?

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Slappy wrote:
Cool. Im taking it thats its single runs , no quali w/ tandems right? Im leaning towards no....but im still stoked about coming to this.
Last year, it was one driver on track at a time for the most part. But you can pretty much do anything you want during your runs and make each run as long as you'd like. There are no time limits.

There won't be any official drift qualifying or scoring. It's more of an exhibition and having fun. The drifting is also going to be prominently featured by Carlisle, including a special guest drifter, so expect plenty of spectators.

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Bubba1 wrote:
Last year, it was one driver on track at a time for the most part. But you can pretty much do anything you want during your runs and make each run as long as you'd like. There are no time limits.

There won't be any official drift qualifying or scoring. It's more of an exhibition and having fun. The drifting is also going to be prominently featured by Carlisle, including a special guest drifter, so expect plenty of spectators.
Ok cool , just so i get my fix. You see my above post?^
Bubba1 wrote:including a special guest drifter
If its Nick Hogan i will throw eggs at him.

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Slappy wrote:I have some questions for the people that have been here before....

Red Dots - Is that about the size of a narrow one lane road?

Blue Dots - Is this say , a turn around area?

Yellow Dots - Entrance?



Am i corrected in thinking that the entire course looks like this by connecting these 2 pics?

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The track is little longer than the two pictures. I didn't measure how long it is, Guessing a tad under 1/4 mile each way. To complete one lap with the cones is little over 30 seconds. We were doing two lap autocross runs. Last year there were maybe 15 turns per lap, 30 per run. That's a lot of turns.

Red dot area is a little wider than it looks, you can fit two cars beside each other.

Blue dots: for autocross we run cones throughout that area, which is off camber. We take full advantage of that extra asphalt.

yellow dots is actually a small access road/emergency exit. there's a gate farther up road. It's also a little run off area if you go too hot into that big sweeping turn.


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If its Nick Hogan i will throw eggs at him.
Keep your eggs in the fridge, it's not him.


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