2007 sentra lowering question.

[Showcase]

Just a question about lowering my 2007 sentra 2.0s. I think its sitting a lill high, I wanna lower it about an inch. It will look better and perform better. I noticed that on the Stillen site that they offer Eibach Pro-Kit Lowering Kit. Says that it lowers it 1", which is what im looking for. Im wondering if its realy just that simple? Just swap the springs and your good to go? are there any downside (other that bottoming out) that could damage my car? Also says that some cars will require an aftermarket camber adjustment kit for proper alignment. Would the sentra need one? Thanks for your responses

[jbarbaresi]

the eibach pro-kit for the 2.0 actually lowers your car 1.3" in both the front and rear. you may need a realignment after installation but seeing as how your car is so new you will probably be alright. the only other problem with lowering springs would be if they compress your struts too much won't provide enough travel which will ruin the supsension, but with that pro-kit you shouldn't have to worry about that, according to eibach anyways. don't think you should have a problem bottoming out either unless you are planning on adding sway bars which will usually take away from your ground clearance.

[nissantech06]

Just a question about lowering my 2007 sentra 2.0s. I think its sitting a lill high, I wanna lower it about an inch. It will look better and perform better. I noticed that on the Stillen site that they offer Eibach Pro-Kit Lowering Kit. Says that it lowers it 1", which is what im looking for. Im wondering if its realy just that simple? Just swap the springs and your good to go? are there any downside (other that bottoming out) that could damage my car? Also says that some cars will require an aftermarket camber adjustment kit for proper alignment. Would the sentra need one? Thanks for your responses

Like jbarbaresi said, since you are lowering the car only 1.3", you won't need a camber kit. Most camber kits are made for cars lowering over 2".

[nametakennow]

B15s have issues with camber even on moderate drops. My 1.5in drop has cause a little bit of camber that an alignment shop can't completely correct for with the stock alignment arrangements. It's not bad and is barely noticeable in tire wear.

This may or may not extend to the B16s. I believe the suspensions are practically the same, so I figured I'd toss in that tidbit just as a warning that it could happen. Again, not really an issue as it's very minor and ends up being on the fringe of the "normal" range. I don't think the Pro-Kits caused this, but my Sportlines did.

As a side note about the Pro-Kit, previous Pro-Kits actually had a LOWER spring rate than the stock Spec V springs, so if this is purely cosmetic, have at it, but if you're looking for an increase in performance it will be a pretty minor improvement since the lower center of gravity will counteract the lower spring rate.

[jbarbaresi]

yeah for a great performance difference you need to do more than just the springs. however, the cosmetic difference is astounding. especially on the '07, which for some reason they gave a huge 4 X 4 spacing between the fender and tire. you will probably notice the ride change just a little.

[nissantech06]

yeah for a great performance difference you need to do more than just the springs. however, the cosmetic difference is astounding. especially on the '07, which for some reason they gave a huge 4 X 4 spacing between the fender and tire. you will probably notice the ride change just a little.

Don't you HATE that about Nissans? Even the Altimas are like that.

[jbarbaresi]

eibach just released the pro-kit and sportline lowering springs for the '07 spec v and i'm trying to decide which to go with. the pro-kit lowers 1.5 in front and 1.0 in rear and sportline lowers 2.0 in front and 1.5 in rear. i don't mind the difference in stiffness between the two lines, however i don't want the fender to lower down past the tire. i roughly measured the fender gap as stock and it's a little over 3" in the rear and 3.5" in the front. i'm leaning towards the sportline but just want to make sure i don't have any issues with the suspension travel or tire clearance when i plus size my wheels in a couple weeks. any insight as to how much difference i will see other than the obvious being .5" lower?

nametakenow, i know you said you have the sportline springs, how do you like them?

[nametakennow]

I like them and wouldn't go any other way because of the spring rate differences. The handling is astonishing for a front-driver, and if/when I get a rear sway bar it'll be even better. This suspension makes use of every ounce of grip my tires can offer. The Koni Yellows are probably also a big part of that. People who auto-x a lot in Sentras often use this exact setup, or add Ground Control sleeves to be able to tighten it up a little more.

The extra inch and a half really doesn't play into wheel/tire choice. As long as you don't go super-wide on the wheel/tire combo and make sure that the overall diameter is close to stock with a tire-size calculator, you can easily avoid rubbing.

I'm about to go with 225 tires (on new +38 wheels) and, according to my calculations, they will just barely fit with the inch and a half drop. Thing is, even if you run Pro-Kits, you'll still not be able to run much, if any, wider of a wheel/tire setup because when you hit a big bump and compress the springs all the way, you're going to hit the fender/wheel well anyway.

Driving around Atlanta can be a little rough with this suspension setup. However, the stock one was so bouncy that it'd be uncomfortable too. The tighter ride, IMO, is better than bouncing like a school bus. My only ride complaint has to do with my current tire setup, rather than the suspension.

[nissantech06]

I like them and wouldn't go any other way because of the spring rate differences. The handling is astonishing for a front-driver, and if/when I get a rear sway bar it'll be even better. This suspension makes use of every ounce of grip my tires can offer. The Koni Yellows are probably also a big part of that. People who auto-x a lot in Sentras often use this exact setup, or add Ground Control sleeves to be able to tighten it up a little more.

The extra inch and a half really doesn't play into wheel/tire choice. As long as you don't go super-wide on the wheel/tire combo and make sure that the overall diameter is close to stock with a tire-size calculator, you can easily avoid rubbing.

I'm about to go with 225 tires (on new +38 wheels) and, according to my calculations, they will just barely fit with the inch and a half drop. Thing is, even if you run Pro-Kits, you'll still not be able to run much, if any, wider of a wheel/tire setup because when you hit a big bump and compress the springs all the way, you're going to hit the fender/wheel well anyway.

Driving around Atlanta can be a little rough with this suspension setup. However, the stock one was so bouncy that it'd be uncomfortable too. The tighter ride, IMO, is better than bouncing like a school bus. My only ride complaint has to do with my current tire setup, rather than the suspension.

Let me ask you this: when you put your springs on, does it feel like you are riding on stock struts or not. I WANT to wait until the Nismo kit comes out; however, I am impatient.

[nametakennow]

I put the springs and the shocks on at the same time.

Over most surfaces it's the same. On bumpy surfaces the car bounces less. That transmits more of the harshness to you, but it's really not uncomfortable except when the relatively thin tires cause you to feel road imperfections.

I drive in downtown Atlanta daily, and only over a few roads do I ever wish I had a softer suspension, and that's only with other people in the car 'cause I feel like they're annoyed by the tighter ride.

[jbarbaresi]

i'm starting to lean towards the pro-kit now, i found out that the sportline springs aren't going to be out for a little while longer. here is a link with some pictures of stillen's sema spec v with eibach pro-kit. it looks like it does a pretty good job of closing up that fender space. what do you think?

http://www.egmcartech.com/2007...-se-r/

[nametakennow]

Again, if it's purely cosmetic, then sure, it'll clean up the looks just fine.

Personally, however, I think it's worth the wait to get better handling and slightly better looks.

[jbarbaresi]

i'm just worried about the wear and tear on my stock struts with the sportline, not looking to replace those any time soon. i also think there might be too much negative camber lowering it as much as the sportline does and theres no kit out for the car yet, not that i've seen anyways. anyways, the car is just a daily driver to and from work, i mean christ i've had the car since may 26 and i only have 1900 miles on it so far! i'm not doing too many more mods, exhaust and intake, springs, wheels/tires. maybe headers down the road but i'm not too sure about that because i haven't liked any of the sound clips i've heard of b15 with headers and exhaust, they all sound very raspy. i hear what you're saying about waiting for the sportline... i don't know.

[nametakennow]

Ah, if you're sticking with the stock struts then the Sportlines aren't even an option. Go with the Pro-Kit.

The negative camber could be corrected enough within the stock range to keep tire wear within normal spec, just an fyi, not that it'll matter with the Pro-Kit at all.

[jbarbaresi]

well i've noticed that my car already has a slight negative camber as it is with stock suspension and stock wheels. don't know if that's just my car or all '07's. it's negligible but i still notice, i'm picky like that.

i've called around to all the local shops here and everyone is charging me $175 to $200 for install of the springs and an alignment afterwards. this seems a little rediculous to me, its almost as much as the springs themselves. does that sound about right?

[nametakennow]

I did the install myself, so I don't know. It doesn't seem terribly outrageous just from thinking about the work involved. IMO it's much simpler to go rent (for free, just requires a deposit that's refunded if you don't break it) a spring compressor from Autozone and do it yourself.

A slight negative camber is probably something Nissan did intentionally. I doubt any car is completely straight up and down at the wheels.

[jbarbaresi]

alright well thanks for the advice and input. i ordered the pro-kit from stillen for $247 with free shipping, best deal i've seen. i'd assume not try to do the install myself cause i've never done springs and i know i would screw something up, if not hurt someone. i'll keep checking around for a better price.

[nissantech06]

Ah, if you're sticking with the stock struts then the Sportlines aren't even an option. Go with the Pro-Kit.

THAT's the answer I needed, thank you!

[nametakennow]

Sportlines + stock struts = Blown in a hurry.

Glad I could help.

Post pics when you get 'em on! Before/After preferable.

[mr20de_boy]

i actually wanted the sportlines because i think the ride height is too high for the 07'. yeah the pro-kit will last longer but i heard performance wise the sportlines are WAY better but is there any way i can get the sportlines without having my stock struts blowing out

[jbarbaresi]

read further up in the thread...

[mr20de_boy]

i read the thread but everyone just talks about the pro kit and that the sportlines blow your stock struts fast. its just is there a way to get the sportlines without blowing the stock struts because there arent any performance struts out yet

[jbarbaresi]

i don't know for you sure, but if you are planning on replacing the struts when something comes out you will probably be ok until then. i would call the eibach customer support number to find out for sure.

[mr20de_boy]

i don't know for you sure, but if you are planning on replacing the struts when something comes out you will probably be ok until then. i would call the eibach customer support number to find out for sure.

is there any company you know of that is trying to make struts for the b16

[jbarbaresi]

i think Ksport is making struts and coilovers for the se-r's, not sre about the 2.0's. have you seen the stillen project 2.0? they have eibach pro-kit springs on that car and it eliminates that fender space pretty nicely. you have such a new car it almost seems like a waste to replace your struts so soon. check out these pictures and see if you aren't happy with the look that the pro-kit gives. scroll down to the bottom where all the photos are. personally i think the pro-kit looks really good on your car, any lower might be too much.

http://www.stillen.com/project...r.asp

[mr20de_boy]

i actually have seen those pictures and do agree with you that it does do a good job of filling in the fender space but you also have to take into consideration that the car does have 18' rims on it and that the front lip makes the car seem lower than it really is. and im planning on getting 17' rims for my car do you think it will still have fat fender space if i only get 17's
Modified by mr20de_boy at 12:09 PM 11/22/2007

[EL MAMITO USMC]

remeber to post pics of your car before and after the change to see the diference. good luck

[jbarbaresi]

i actually have seen those pictures and do agree with you that it does do a good job of filling in the fender space but you also have to take into consideration that the car does have 18' rims on it and that the front lip makes the car seem lower than it really is. and im planning on getting 17' rims for my car do you think it will still have fat fender space if i only get 17's

Modified by mr20de_boy at 12:09 PM 11/22/2007

reguardless of what size wheels you put on, be it 17's or 18's, the space between the tire and the fender will remain the same because an 18" wheel will have thinner tires that a 17" wheel, so the overall diameter of the tire remains the same even though the wheel itself is bigger. if you want to hold off another week, i have a set of eibach pro-kit springs and new 17" wheels on the way. i will post pictures after i get them on and you can be the judge for yourself. i have a spec v, but the look of the fender will be the same.

[nissantech06]

i think Ksport is making struts and coilovers for the se-r's, not sre about the 2.0's. have you seen the stillen project 2.0? they have eibach pro-kit springs on that car and it eliminates that fender space pretty nicely. you have such a new car it almost seems like a waste to replace your struts so soon. check out these pictures and see if you aren't happy with the look that the pro-kit gives. scroll down to the bottom where all the photos are. personally i think the pro-kit looks really good on your car, any lower might be too much.

http://www.stillen.com/project...r.asp

Like the B15 Sentra, the B16 Sentra's suspension is interchangeable between models.

[mr20de_boy]

reguardless of what size wheels you put on, be it 17's or 18's, the space between the tire and the fender will remain the same because an 18" wheel will have thinner tires that a 17" wheel, so the overall diameter of the tire remains the same even though the wheel itself is bigger. if you want to hold off another week, i have a set of eibach pro-kit springs and new 17" wheels on the way. i will post pictures after i get them on and you can be the judge for yourself. i have a spec v, but the look of the fender will be the same.

will do! btw what rims are you getting