Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me with passing on to my dealership (who have had it now for 6 Months) on what to check for a problem with my pathfinder!
Its a 2007 Pathfinder sport and its been to a private auto electricians and 2 different dealerships and neither can find the fault, I had the compressor for the air con replaced and afterwards the car lost 4wd and the traction control light, ABS, ESP light came on, the garage claim it was already like this and offered to find the fault, They claimed it was nothing to do with them saying it would be a split loom, but I was convinced that they would just make it worse.
The computers they use at the dealership wont talk to the ABS until and they told me they'd have to find it manually, £800 later i was told it's the Abs control unit (£1800) and I'd need a new one and 110% it would fix the problem (guess what it didn't) and now they want to go back checking again!
Anyone got any ideas because the dealership has run out!
If anyone can help I would appreciate it because I now need to sell this car (which I don't want to do, but have no choice) to pay off what I owe so far!
Thanks.
2007 Pathfinder Abs light
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Mike Triggle
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Re: 2007 Pathfinder Abs light
Welcome to NICO!
Wow! That is quite the predicament to be in. Sorry to hear about this being your experience with your Pathy.
Have they tested the actual ECU yet, or just the ABS computer?
Are they charging you for all of the parts/labor, too?
Wow! That is quite the predicament to be in. Sorry to hear about this being your experience with your Pathy.
Have they tested the actual ECU yet, or just the ABS computer?
Are they charging you for all of the parts/labor, too?
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RicerX
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Re: 2007 Pathfinder Abs light
A faulty wheel speed sensor will also trip these lights. This can happen if the wheel bearings were replaced without removing the wheel speed sensor, for example.
There is also the possibility there is a voltage issue to one of the wheel speed sensors if they had a spark when removing something or if they botched wiring or something somewhere.
Lots of possibilities here. Was the problem present as soon as you drove away from the initial repair, or did it occur later down the road? Specifically, did it occur the first time you hit the brakes or did it happen at cruise?
There is a catalyst to your issue - we just have to find it.
There is also the possibility there is a voltage issue to one of the wheel speed sensors if they had a spark when removing something or if they botched wiring or something somewhere.
Lots of possibilities here. Was the problem present as soon as you drove away from the initial repair, or did it occur later down the road? Specifically, did it occur the first time you hit the brakes or did it happen at cruise?
There is a catalyst to your issue - we just have to find it.
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Re: 2007 Pathfinder Abs light
I would also reiterate that they should check all ground connections related to the ABS main actuator. If the ground connection is dirty or not secured, it can fire off all of these other faults. This could especially be the case if the initial repair of the air condition compressor required removal of these parts in order to facilitate the repair process.
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Re: 2007 Pathfinder Abs light
They didn't wire the compressor up properly, and started messing with the ac pressure switch, they asked me to turn start the engine and while doing it at one point it wouldn't start which was weird, then they managed to do something with the switch and it started again!
Yes they have charged £800 labour so far and they want me to pay for the new abs control unit £1800 (which doesn't look like it need replacing! ) but I'm going to have an argument over that as I don't see why I have to pay for something I didn't need!
Not sure if they have checked the ecu it's self (but i will ask him to thanks), but up to now they want nearly £3000 and still not fixed it, last engineer I spoke to wants to try replacing the clocks as he says they are linked to the CAN system, the main problem is this car was only in production for 2 years and second hand parts are hard to come by!.
I'm being told all sensors and earth's have been checked and their computer is not talking to the CAN at all. Everything came on while turning the engine over for the ac garage (esp, abs and traction lights) only noticed on the way home no 4x4.
Thanks for everyone's help I will pass on anything anyone thinks as we are getting desperate to get this sorted.
Yes they have charged £800 labour so far and they want me to pay for the new abs control unit £1800 (which doesn't look like it need replacing! ) but I'm going to have an argument over that as I don't see why I have to pay for something I didn't need!
Not sure if they have checked the ecu it's self (but i will ask him to thanks), but up to now they want nearly £3000 and still not fixed it, last engineer I spoke to wants to try replacing the clocks as he says they are linked to the CAN system, the main problem is this car was only in production for 2 years and second hand parts are hard to come by!.
I'm being told all sensors and earth's have been checked and their computer is not talking to the CAN at all. Everything came on while turning the engine over for the ac garage (esp, abs and traction lights) only noticed on the way home no 4x4.
Thanks for everyone's help I will pass on anything anyone thinks as we are getting desperate to get this sorted.
Re: 2007 Pathfinder Abs light
I found a copy of the service manual for your car here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/dbd8r ... nder07.zip. I unzipped it and there were no virus warnings.
You can find that link yourself if you like by looking it up at pdftown.com
If I understand you are now at the Nissan dealers, correct? According to the LAN portion of the manual they should be using what is called Consult II, and a Consult II Converter (page LAN-42). I'm sure they know that, but if their Nissan system won't talk to your Nissan vehicle, they should ask Nissan for help. Nissan has dealer support people for that purpose. Reason I say that is that there are specific test procedures in the LAN manual to find the problem if the CONSULT II cannot talk to one of the ( or several of the) CAN control modules. CAN control modules are listed on page LAN-41.
I would tell them no more work on the vehicle until they get their test equipment working. Hate to say it, something doesn't compute here.
You can find that link yourself if you like by looking it up at pdftown.com
If I understand you are now at the Nissan dealers, correct? According to the LAN portion of the manual they should be using what is called Consult II, and a Consult II Converter (page LAN-42). I'm sure they know that, but if their Nissan system won't talk to your Nissan vehicle, they should ask Nissan for help. Nissan has dealer support people for that purpose. Reason I say that is that there are specific test procedures in the LAN manual to find the problem if the CONSULT II cannot talk to one of the ( or several of the) CAN control modules. CAN control modules are listed on page LAN-41.
I would tell them no more work on the vehicle until they get their test equipment working. Hate to say it, something doesn't compute here.
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Re: 2007 Pathfinder Abs light
Nissan tech have already said change the abs control module, that's what the dealers have done off Nissan's advise, the tested their equipment and got their tech out to recalibrate their equipment but it still won't communicate with it!, they have sent the car to Nissan Cannock ( a bloke called Mike) who seemed really nice and he's the one who mentioned the clocks.
He was authorised a few hours on it and said their equipment won't talk to either, then told me I needed a new clutch as mine was slipping (it was fine when I gave to them).
He asked me to go back to the garage that done the ac to basically beg them to tell me what they'd done but the guy that worked on it was away for the week.
I will ask about the the tests thanks, my thinking exactly about something not right, that's why I've come to you guys!.
Thanks for your help guys.
He was authorised a few hours on it and said their equipment won't talk to either, then told me I needed a new clutch as mine was slipping (it was fine when I gave to them).
He asked me to go back to the garage that done the ac to basically beg them to tell me what they'd done but the guy that worked on it was away for the week.
I will ask about the the tests thanks, my thinking exactly about something not right, that's why I've come to you guys!.
Thanks for your help guys.
Re: 2007 Pathfinder Abs light
A lot more to the story then. All I can say is best of luck.
Sounds like Nissan tech are the only ones who will solve it.
Sounds like Nissan tech are the only ones who will solve it.
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Re: 2007 Pathfinder Abs light
Yeah, I would think faulty ABS/wheel speed sensor.
Might be time to burn the car and collect the insurance if they are wanting you to pay over 3000 pounds for a bunch of stuff that didn't fix the problem.
Might be time to burn the car and collect the insurance if they are wanting you to pay over 3000 pounds for a bunch of stuff that didn't fix the problem.
Re: 2007 Pathfinder Abs light
Hi there,
Did you ever resolve this...?
I have just had a similar problem with my 2006 2.5 manual 4x4 pathfinder.
I have changed the bottom ball joint on the front lower wish bone. On Saturday afternoon I thought I would have time to just whip old one off and drop new one in etc... Sunday lunch I finally got it finished..
(Use the correct tools for the job I may have got it done Saturday!!!!)
Wheel on 100 yard first test drive and boom ABS, ESP, Slip (Traction Control), and 4x4 Dash Warning lights On...
Right must of damaged the Wheel speed sensor check resistance seems ok....
Tried manual ECU reset...turn ignition on, 3sec, pump accelerator 5 times with in 5sec, wait 7 sec, hold accelerator 10sec. Engine light flashes turn off back on (Read this somewhere don't know if it works)...same... got code reader out..- No Faults-, -No Errors Stored-...
Finally checked connections in wheel speed sensor.. looked ok but a pin was slightly shorter than the other managed to push both pins in further in the plug, plugged in and omg it works.... May be a bit of a school boy error but I was pulling my hair out.
Hope this is helpful to anyone.
Did you ever resolve this...?
I have just had a similar problem with my 2006 2.5 manual 4x4 pathfinder.
I have changed the bottom ball joint on the front lower wish bone. On Saturday afternoon I thought I would have time to just whip old one off and drop new one in etc... Sunday lunch I finally got it finished..
(Use the correct tools for the job I may have got it done Saturday!!!!)
Wheel on 100 yard first test drive and boom ABS, ESP, Slip (Traction Control), and 4x4 Dash Warning lights On...
Right must of damaged the Wheel speed sensor check resistance seems ok....
Tried manual ECU reset...turn ignition on, 3sec, pump accelerator 5 times with in 5sec, wait 7 sec, hold accelerator 10sec. Engine light flashes turn off back on (Read this somewhere don't know if it works)...same... got code reader out..- No Faults-, -No Errors Stored-...
Finally checked connections in wheel speed sensor.. looked ok but a pin was slightly shorter than the other managed to push both pins in further in the plug, plugged in and omg it works.... May be a bit of a school boy error but I was pulling my hair out.
Hope this is helpful to anyone.