2006 Q ??'s

[alexander]

There is '06 Q sport here with only 13k miles on it for sale for less than $29k.Is this car so rare that certain parts might not be available in 10 years, making it a not so 'not such a good deal'. Extended warranty would not last the life of the car obviuosly. But with few electronic parts out there, you could be sitting with another 'Phaeton".

Also available is a 2006 S600 for $39k. Anyone familar with this cars problems beside fuel?

[maxnix]

The MB is thirsty, and only an SOHC 3 valve twin plug design.

The F50 is at a very good price if its history checks out.

[alexander]

History checks out as it was serviced at Infiniti all the time.also car was not first titled until 9/06 so long warranty

[slybydesignq45t]

My experience with MB has been a great one. I am part of the MB forum, and an 06 s600 is a great car. You have to keep in mind one thing with any 600 model no matter the year, you pay to play period. The firm luxury of the 600 is uncompromising. If I had an extra penny to toss, I would most likely go with F50 and enjoy the same luxury experience for less the cost. You wont lose prestige by pushing the F50 instead of the W220. Actually dollar for dollar your gonna be better off with the F50. Now on the other hand if you start your fireplace with money sacks then the w220 600 will serve you well. Either way you have some nice options on the table.

[Q451990]

I suspect the '06 Q shares most of it's parts with the '02 - '05 Q45s. It might be worth checking to see how long the F50 run continued in Japan... if they're in production there, you can bet parts will be available for a while. Of course, in today's climate, can you be sure of anything? All of these cars could be '89 Sterlings in terms of parts availibility if the parent companies fail...

Heath

[qship96]

I would test drive the 06Q...then test drive a 06M45 and decide which you prefer-both are about the same price

[Infinitiguy19]

Nearly identical except that the Q45 has a wider wheel base and oblivious reasons such as one being a Q45 and one being an M45.

But if you go with he Q45 you us nice folks to talk to.

[Mark Linkous]

Nearly identical except that the Q45 has a wider wheel base and oblivious reasons such as one being a Q45 and one being an M45.

But if you go with he Q45 you us nice folks to talk to.

Hello,That statement is correct if comparing the 2003-2004 (Y34) M45 and the 2002-2006 (F50) Q45. These cars are indeed kissing cousins. The 2006+ M45 would be better described as a bigger G35/37. As both as based on FM (front midship) platform which underpins virtually all Infiniti's now that the QX is going to be discontinued.

The 2006+ M45 does share the same engine as the F50. The transmission is quite similar. Though, the 2006+ does incorporate rev matching on down shifts.Cheers,ML

[Infinitiguy19]

Yea I thought the M45 was the same throughout that time period.

But wow that sucks that there taking out the QX4.

[maxnix]

But wow that sucks that there taking out the QX4.

Not if you ever had to replace the front rotors!
Modified by maxnix at 8:28 AM 11/4/2008

[MinisterofDOOM]

But wow that sucks that there taking out the QX4.

Not QX4, QX56. QX4 is already 4-years dead.

As both as based on FM (front midship) platform which underpins virtually all Infiniti's now that the QX is going to be discontinued.

Where did you hear this? Last I heard, the QX was going to continue, but the truck's platform was in question. One option was being considered was a larger Patrol (which would make the QX unibody but still trucklike).This all hinges on the future of the Titan, which is uncertain as there's a lot of speculation but no facts yet.

[Mark Linkous]

Hello,I have been under the impression that going forward, Nissan was going to use Dodge trucks rebadged. Even Popular Mechanics makes note of this in their recent review of the Titan. http://www.popularmechanics.co...age=4

Link about QX specifically:http://blogs.cars.com/kickingt....html

This seems especially plausible considering the advancements made to the rear suspension of the new Ram. Also, it has been widely speculated that Ghosn is interested in purchasing Chrysler from Cerberus. This has gained steam with Cerberus attempting to purchase the around 20% share that Daimler-Benz have held since the sale. This clearing the way for a sale or spin offs.

MOD, you well might be right. It just seems that everywhere I go make note of this. I do agree that there has not been official word. However, it has been my experience that when this many places all report the same thing, it usually happens.Cheers,Mark

[maxnix]

I could see Nissan buying Dodge truck plants and Jeep if there were a market for the former.

I bet you can get an 8.2 liter V10 Dodge truck for about $4K new now.

[MinisterofDOOM]

I have been under the impression that going forward, Nissan was going to use Dodge trucks rebadged. Even Popular Mechanics makes note of this in their recent review of the Titan.

Yeah, I've seen several magazines report it. It may well be correct, but there's a lot that doesn't quite fit. It makes sense that Nissan would want to use existing Dodge production facilities to cut production costs.

There are a few reasons I still doubt the accuracy of the claims that the Titan will be a Ram. First, there's the fact that nearly everything being thrown around right now concerning the trucks is speculation. Nissan HAS released some info on a cooperative effort between Chrysler and Nissan manufacturing trucks. But they have NOT said that the Titan will be a Dodge design. In fact, they have said exactly the OPPOSITE.

http://www.nissannews.com/news...d=401

Quote » Chrysler will manufacture a full-size pickup for Nissan. Based on a Nissan unique design, this truck will be manufactured at Chrysler’s Saltillo (Mexico) Assembly Plant. In order to accommodate this product, Chrysler will shift volume from Mexico to its U.S.-based assembly plants that produce pickup trucks. Sales of the pickup in North America will start in 2011.[/quote]"Nissan unique design." Not "rebadged from a Dodge design."

Then there's the fact that Nissan put a LOT of resources into developing the F-Alpha platform which, despite poor sales, is a FANTASTIC truck platform. Why would Nissan toss all that in the garbage after only 5 years? Truck platforms are evolutionary in succession...there's plenty of life left in F-Alpha--especially since the midsize trucks will continue using it.

Then there's the reality of product R&D. Assuming a 2011 model debut, the new Titan will already be well into development. Why toss that out for something else?

Then there's the fact that Nissan has made a deal with Navistar (International) for diesel powerplants for future HD Titans. Not Cummins, Navistar.

Then there's the fact that the VK engine is still totally valid and evolving nicely and VASTLY superior to Chrysler's fuel-guzzling Hemi. A Hemi powered Titan makes NO sense.

It just doesn't add up. It'd be like Nissan dropping the M and selling an E-class rebadge instead. Yeah, it'd save some money, but WHY?!

[Mark Linkous]

Hello,I honestly hope you are correct. Given the investment in the Canton, Mississippi plant, I agree that it would make sense to continue production. Unless, Nissan decides that the large truck SUV market is too cutthroat and decides to retool the Canton plant to produce smaller vehicles.

Given the current attitudes towards SUV's and full size Pickup's, perhaps it makes sense to rebadge Rams. Then again, given the large infrastructure investment in the large truck program it also makes sense to continue. I suppose it comes down to if Nissan believes that there will be a large enough market for their full size trucks.

Considering that many of the people who used to drive Titan's and QX's have left in droves, I honestly do not know if it makes sense to continue. I am in total agreement that the drivetrain in the Titan/QX is still class leading. Also, that the VK56 trounces the pseudo Hemi. Dodge does however still have the Cummings Turbo Diesel which is quite nice. I am beginning to wonder if in the future all large trucks will be diesel powered. Makes a good deal of sense to me.Cheers,ML

[maxnix]

I think the class leading engine of gasoline powered trucks is the Tundra V8.

But gasoline powered engines may be only for entry level and light trucks in the future.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Dodge does however still have the Cummings Turbo Diesel which is quite nice. I am beginning to wonder if in the future all large trucks will be diesel powered. Makes a good deal of sense to me.Cheers,ML

It will start to move that way. Ford will be offering a small diesel in the F150 soon. GM will follow suit shortly after.

[2005Q45er]

gm and ford needs alot of help!

[MinisterofDOOM]

Yes they do. All three do. I personally wish there was some way to make a deal with the devil to trade Ford for the well-being of the other two. I have a very horrible and malicious desire to see Ford die. And, alternatively, I have a great desire to see GM live. Alas, I have no idea how to contact the great Beelzebub to make such a deal.

[Jesda]

The QX56's disappearance doesn't surprise me. While it has the Armada's capability, it lacks the refinement, comfort, and quality of the Escalade, LX, Range Rover, and Q7. All the high tech gimmicks don't make up for the fact that it feels cheap.

If Nissan bothered to spend a few extra bucks on the interior back in 2004, it might have earned some respect as a luxury truck.

The last one I sat in felt like a child's plastic pedal-car, and the 2009 Frontier I'm renting now, with its durable but cheap-feeling trash bin interior, doesn't feel much different from the QX56's I've been in.

The refreshed interior is also too little, too late. Goodbye QX. You won't be missed.

On the other hand, I hope the end of the Alpha platform drives down prices of used Titans. Its a heck of a truck.

[maxnix]

Call them up and make in offer. When they are not moving in Texas, you know it's bad out there.

Welcome to single digit MPG.