2006: Last one?
2006: Last one?
Ive been hearing rumors that 2006 will be the last 350z model made for a while untill the next number down the road like 400z or somthing likt that.... is this just a rumor or is it true
as a nissan tech I dont know anything going on with nissan as far as upcoming models, but there is no reason nissan couldnt do a 450 or even 560z its not really out of the question, and with the new model coming out next yr, that ungoldy looking econo box that will easily satisfy their CAFE numbers if they did, it is totally posible to jump it up to a bigger engine.
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Re: (NISTECH)
Nissan Stopped production of the GTR to push there new Z. I personally don't think that they are going to but large displacement v-8 into the z cause look at the price of gas large displacement motors are fadeing out gas in Japan is around 6 USD per gallon and the japanese put a v-6 in the z cause it is just heavy enough to push it that is why there V-8 are reserved for high end heavy A$$ car like the nissan presidental Q45.
There is nothing to say that a post 06 Z wont be a lot like the current one.After akll Chassis and body style have been wildy successful.Even if we do get a 4.0 VQ it will still be a current gen ( Z33) Chassis car until they change more.
THe Z33 has been sold in large numbers for a sports car and will be around for a long time.
Fred..
THe Z33 has been sold in large numbers for a sports car and will be around for a long time.
Fred..
Fred IF they up the engine in the Z the model designaion will change, It will go to what ever the engine displacement is. If for example the they use the VQ40 it will be a 400 Z with a Z34 or Z40 chassis. This is as it has always been with the designation of the Z. I would lean more toward the Z34 designation based on the last jump.
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Re: (350g)
The Z doesn't need a V8. The VQ40 has amazing potential. The VQ35 right now is making 85 reliable hp/liter. Bump size alone and you've got 340 horses right there. That's enough to be ahead of all the competition, and just behind the Mustink GT. Push the engine a little farther and we could see a 350 horsepower Z. And remember, we've yet to see a factory FI 350z. S/C the VQ40 and you'll have the hottest V8s running for cover. The VQ is safe up to 4.3 and probably even 4.5 liters. Forget the VK45. Give us a VQ45. Just imagine a VQ45DER. 400 horses without breaking a sweat.
A little monster that's so ugly you couldn't pay me to buy one. BMW has lost their minds and they're not coming back. I don't care how many cylinders they cram under their hoods. Now they're not just unreliable and expensive to maintain; they're anong the ugliest cars on the road, too.350g wrote:Seems as if everyone is leaning towards the V8 to keep up with the competition . . . the new M3 is going to be a little monster.
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Re: (350zQ45a)
Look the GTR last date of production was in 2002 the same year that the 350z came out This has been the First time nissan has stopped GTR production since the 70'salso most of the GT cars now that are nissan are the Z cars and not the R chassis cars350zQ45a wrote:The Z has nothing to do with the GTR ending. The GTR is being completely rethought and rebranded. It will be an entirely different car, seperate from anything Nissan has, including a sep chasis number.
The Z is the margin cruncher for Nissan, the GTR will be the image car
Right, BUT they introduced the new GTR concept at the 2001 Tokyo Motor show.
Again, the Z has nothing to do with the GTR ending. The GTR ended because it was going in a whole new direction. It is no longer a "skyline" it will not be based off another model, it is becoming it's own car.
The reason it's taking so long, is because this will be the most advanced road going vehicle Nissan has ever produced.
The R34 was dated when the Z came out, there was no point in continuing the production when they had previously introduced the new GTR concept.
I totally disagree with using the Vq40. That is a truck engine, and would need to be redone for the Z.
The VK45DE is a world class engine, and IMO a much better engine then the VQ35. It is very smooth at high rpms, and doesn't feel like it's out of breath and coming apart past 6,000 rpm. This is a world class v8 which every magazine has commented is among the best in the world, which in that class is very competitive (BMW/Merc/Audi/Lexus Etc)
The car is known as a Z anyway. I hardly here anyone say the 350z, even on Nissans website it's the Z.
So who cares what it is, but it needs more power if it's going to continue to be a contender.
Again, the Z has nothing to do with the GTR ending. The GTR ended because it was going in a whole new direction. It is no longer a "skyline" it will not be based off another model, it is becoming it's own car.
The reason it's taking so long, is because this will be the most advanced road going vehicle Nissan has ever produced.
The R34 was dated when the Z came out, there was no point in continuing the production when they had previously introduced the new GTR concept.
I totally disagree with using the Vq40. That is a truck engine, and would need to be redone for the Z.
The VK45DE is a world class engine, and IMO a much better engine then the VQ35. It is very smooth at high rpms, and doesn't feel like it's out of breath and coming apart past 6,000 rpm. This is a world class v8 which every magazine has commented is among the best in the world, which in that class is very competitive (BMW/Merc/Audi/Lexus Etc)
The car is known as a Z anyway. I hardly here anyone say the 350z, even on Nissans website it's the Z.
So who cares what it is, but it needs more power if it's going to continue to be a contender.
Sean:
I would agree with the G35 though. Since the G35 IS the skyline in Japan they obviously had no room for the "R34 Skyline" since it is no way based on the V35.
The new GTR won't be based off the skyline at all, so it made no sense to have the two models out together
Since the Z and the G are the same thing anyway we're both right
I would agree with the G35 though. Since the G35 IS the skyline in Japan they obviously had no room for the "R34 Skyline" since it is no way based on the V35.
The new GTR won't be based off the skyline at all, so it made no sense to have the two models out together
Since the Z and the G are the same thing anyway we're both right
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Re: (350zQ45a)
Probalby as the affordable Nissan Sports car.So I dont see huge fatcory upgrades coming350zQ45a wrote:The question is how will they want to position the Z against the GTR
Re: (zatch37)
thank you for the kind words..zatch37 wrote:This is a good thread, and i was al worried that since it is a "rumor" I would get kicked or yelled at or something. I say agian this forum is the best.
Fred..
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Re: (sean8564)
This is not true. Skyline production has been continuous since the 1970s, GT-R production has not. Not every version of the Skyline has had a GT-R in the model lineup. There have only been five cars that have carried the name "GT-R".sean8564 wrote:Look the GTR last date of production was in 2002 the same year that the 350z came out This has been the First time nissan has stopped GTR production since the 70's
They are:
1962-1972 KPGC10 "Hakosuka" GT-R:
1972-1977 KPGC110 GT-R:
1989-1994 R32 GT-R "Godzilla":
1993-1998 R33 GT-R:
1999-2002 R34 GT-R:
(My source site actually said that the R33 was 93-99, and R34 was 98-02, which seems not to make sense, can anyone confirm?)
Anyway, with that out of the way, I don't think that the 350Z is going anywhere. It's selling like hotcakes, and it doesn't really *need* to compete with the M3. It competes just fine with the RX-8 and S2k, and that's the target market.
The new '07 GT-R will compete with the M3's, 911's, and C6 Corvettes of the world, the 350 doesn't have to. That's not what it's for.
If Mazda all of a sudden releases a turbocharged RX-8 or new, faster RX-7, you can bet we'll just get some forced-induction version of the 350Z to compete. I cannot imagine that they'd go putting some huge V8 in the Z though, just doesn't seem right.
Again the new GTR has nothing to do with the skyline.
It is it's own seperate car. It will have a seperate engine, chasis code, etc. It will cost considerably more, because it will be using lots of it's own parts, not like the Z which shares just about everything out of its nissan parts bin.
The skyline in japan is out, it's called the G35.
THE SKYLINE GTR IS DEAD!!
There is no Skyline GTR anymore. There is a skyline, and there will be a GTR, but they will have nothing to do with each other, aside from maybe looking somewhat similar.
It is it's own seperate car. It will have a seperate engine, chasis code, etc. It will cost considerably more, because it will be using lots of it's own parts, not like the Z which shares just about everything out of its nissan parts bin.
The skyline in japan is out, it's called the G35.
THE SKYLINE GTR IS DEAD!!
There is no Skyline GTR anymore. There is a skyline, and there will be a GTR, but they will have nothing to do with each other, aside from maybe looking somewhat similar.
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Still not nessecarily true, Nissan has been exceptionally tight liped, and manufacturers have been known to be deceptive right up until the point of launch. In japan it might be badged the skyline GTR, and in america just the GT-R. Regarless, I find the speculating fun, bickering pointless, and a good result from nissan eminent.
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