I was out on the highway the other day when a S55 AMG pulled up beside me... I reached over and switched off the traction control. We are about neck and neck on the highway and I could feel the tension building... We both hit the pedal to the floor - .1 second reaction time. The Q took off like a jet with two afterburners... The S55 (354 hp) pulls ahead a half car length, but I stuck in there. He put his window down and gave a healthy "thumbs up" with his face still in shock that I was that close. Next, a modded Harley sees what’s going on and flies by us with an earth-shattering rumble... It turns out the Harley and S55 guys are friends and were playing around before I pulled up. The S guy yells out the window and asks if he can see the car up close. About a minute later on our route to the homestead, we see a State Trooper lurking behind us. Before one know it, lights, camera, action... State police follows us slowly into the driveway. Was told to slow it down and then got compliments for the cars. Turns out he was a car buff too. Whew, talk about luck.
Both of them were very impreseed with the Q45. The s55 guy couldn't believe all the stuff my car had that his didn't. He almost started to get a little upset about it. Tire pressure monitor, cd changer in the glovebox(his in trunk), DVD nav(his cd based with 10 discs), power rear seats, digital radio/climate controls in rear, rear camera, etc. etc. I showed it all and he was loving it. He is an avid car collector and said, "I've heard about this car, but never saw one... "I like it." He asked how much they go for. I told him $60k loaded. He said that's a lot of car for the money and it's beautiful, again, looking surprised at how sharp it was. $100k sticker for his S55 AMG.
I will say the Q had NO PROBLEM holding its own parked right next to that S55. I don't know if it's me, but I still think if that Q had a benz emblem on it, Mercedes dealers would be sold out in the showrooms. It can easily eat lunch with the big boys and looks the part.
2002 Q45 vs 2002 S55 AMG and a Harley....
I LOVE THE NEW Q!!!!
I love the vk45de
I couldn't agree more with your statement... The Q would outsell many other cars, if it simply wasn't an infiniti..
In most of the early comparisons, it was choosen over the LS430.
It's a double edged sword.. I am a greedy bastard, so I secretly enjoy it doesn't sell, because it means I will be buying one SOONER rather then later hehe
I love the vk45de
I couldn't agree more with your statement... The Q would outsell many other cars, if it simply wasn't an infiniti..
In most of the early comparisons, it was choosen over the LS430.
It's a double edged sword.. I am a greedy bastard, so I secretly enjoy it doesn't sell, because it means I will be buying one SOONER rather then later hehe
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1990 Infiniti Q45 7.2 15.4
The new Q is fastest at highway passing speeds. 60-80 mph runs+, due to it's taller gearing. 2003+ models will actually be slower at those higher speeds.
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This is a good read from a link I saved on the 02 Q45:
At the Phoenix International Raceway track on the 11-turn 1.5-mile road course, the fastest times can be achieved with the VDC system switched off. And the new Q is fast, very fast. The course setup uses the front and back main straightaways, with turn 10 and 11 being the high banked oval. When leaving the starting line on pit row, smoking the tires was easy and the Q accelerated to about 70 mph in about an eight of a mile until the left turn in for turn 1, which leads almost immediately to a decreasing radius turn 2, which could be best handled by cranking in steering and using throttle to get the rear end out. From turn 2 were three quick chicanes, which almost could be steered by the new Q as a short straight with full throttle accelerating the car to about 75 mph until arriving at turn 6, which is a sharp, almost hairpin, decreasing radius corner that required the slowing of the Infiniti to about 40 mph and then getting on the gas half way through and getting the rear end out, exiting at about 60 mph. On the track (or in city traffic) big, powerful brakes make a difference. In racing, he who brakes last is many times the fastest and that takes real confidence in the brakes, knowing you can go a little deeper into each corner.
The Q uses ventilated discs at all four corners with twin pistons up front, ABS and EBD. They never faded or got mushy during 20 or so laps. The more laps, the more confidence. Turn 6 leads to a sweeping right-hander with blips called 7 and 8, which can be driven as a short straight in the Q until reaching turn 9, which is a 180-degree hairpin that requires slowing the car down from about 82 mph to about 35 mph in what appears to be not much more than 150 feet. Half way through the hairpin, you get on the gas to accelerate down the main track's back straight, which is really the second half of the tri-oval, to about 85 mph until the lefthand oval banked turn 10, which used cones to keep some wannabe Jeff Gordons away from rubbing the wall. Consequently, the car stayed low on the turn, maintaining about 85 mph through the turn10 and 11 until the apex of turn 11, when you could get on the gas for the run down the front straight, reaching about 105 mph until heavy braking hauls the Q down to about 70 mph for the left turn in for the road course and turn 1.
Fast times require smoothness and the new Q makes being smooth about as easy as taking a nap at a library convention. Steering has perfect feel and the suspension hangs on like an out-of-work brother-in-law using your spare bedroom. It just doesn't want to let go unless you really push it. With the VDC switched off, getting the rear end out and throttle steering was a blast. With the sport package, you get 18X7.5-inch eight-spoke alloys and 245/45ZR performance radials, which give you nearly 10 inches of footprint from each tire -about double the size of the shoes that Shaq wears. Passing tests from 50-70 averaged 3.28 seconds.
1990 Infiniti Q45 7.2 15.4
The new Q is fastest at highway passing speeds. 60-80 mph runs+, due to it's taller gearing. 2003+ models will actually be slower at those higher speeds.
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This is a good read from a link I saved on the 02 Q45:
At the Phoenix International Raceway track on the 11-turn 1.5-mile road course, the fastest times can be achieved with the VDC system switched off. And the new Q is fast, very fast. The course setup uses the front and back main straightaways, with turn 10 and 11 being the high banked oval. When leaving the starting line on pit row, smoking the tires was easy and the Q accelerated to about 70 mph in about an eight of a mile until the left turn in for turn 1, which leads almost immediately to a decreasing radius turn 2, which could be best handled by cranking in steering and using throttle to get the rear end out. From turn 2 were three quick chicanes, which almost could be steered by the new Q as a short straight with full throttle accelerating the car to about 75 mph until arriving at turn 6, which is a sharp, almost hairpin, decreasing radius corner that required the slowing of the Infiniti to about 40 mph and then getting on the gas half way through and getting the rear end out, exiting at about 60 mph. On the track (or in city traffic) big, powerful brakes make a difference. In racing, he who brakes last is many times the fastest and that takes real confidence in the brakes, knowing you can go a little deeper into each corner.
The Q uses ventilated discs at all four corners with twin pistons up front, ABS and EBD. They never faded or got mushy during 20 or so laps. The more laps, the more confidence. Turn 6 leads to a sweeping right-hander with blips called 7 and 8, which can be driven as a short straight in the Q until reaching turn 9, which is a 180-degree hairpin that requires slowing the car down from about 82 mph to about 35 mph in what appears to be not much more than 150 feet. Half way through the hairpin, you get on the gas to accelerate down the main track's back straight, which is really the second half of the tri-oval, to about 85 mph until the lefthand oval banked turn 10, which used cones to keep some wannabe Jeff Gordons away from rubbing the wall. Consequently, the car stayed low on the turn, maintaining about 85 mph through the turn10 and 11 until the apex of turn 11, when you could get on the gas for the run down the front straight, reaching about 105 mph until heavy braking hauls the Q down to about 70 mph for the left turn in for the road course and turn 1.
Fast times require smoothness and the new Q makes being smooth about as easy as taking a nap at a library convention. Steering has perfect feel and the suspension hangs on like an out-of-work brother-in-law using your spare bedroom. It just doesn't want to let go unless you really push it. With the VDC switched off, getting the rear end out and throttle steering was a blast. With the sport package, you get 18X7.5-inch eight-spoke alloys and 245/45ZR performance radials, which give you nearly 10 inches of footprint from each tire -about double the size of the shoes that Shaq wears. Passing tests from 50-70 averaged 3.28 seconds.
That's the slowest time I've seen for a first gen.
I can find you a road and track I think, where they hit 6.7 to 60 and 15.0 flat in the 1/4
15.00@95 was the standard time for a 90
Also remember they wern't manu shifting, they wern't putting it into 1st, and they wern't brake torqueing
So the car had to downshift into 1st gear, that may not take much time, but it takes SOME time..
Put the car into 1st.. Brake torque to 2,000 RPM.. Manu shift at 7,000 you will get a 15 flat
Also. When I had my 91, I raced COUNTLESS low 14 second cars with high 90s trap speeds
E36 m3sSVT cobrasetc etc
Never lost an inch to any of them, and in most times, pulled..
I would really like to see a new q/m go against a well maintained G50 with all the trimmings. I don't think you can call it one way or the other, until we settle this the REAL way.. with a race
I can find you a road and track I think, where they hit 6.7 to 60 and 15.0 flat in the 1/4
15.00@95 was the standard time for a 90
Also remember they wern't manu shifting, they wern't putting it into 1st, and they wern't brake torqueing
So the car had to downshift into 1st gear, that may not take much time, but it takes SOME time..
Put the car into 1st.. Brake torque to 2,000 RPM.. Manu shift at 7,000 you will get a 15 flat
Also. When I had my 91, I raced COUNTLESS low 14 second cars with high 90s trap speeds
E36 m3sSVT cobrasetc etc
Never lost an inch to any of them, and in most times, pulled..
I would really like to see a new q/m go against a well maintained G50 with all the trimmings. I don't think you can call it one way or the other, until we settle this the REAL way.. with a race
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Agreed.
Anybody in Phoenix wanna bring one to SpeedWorld on a Wednesday night?
Or better yet, let's meet up on the I-17 NB around Pinnacle Peak - That's where Quella had a new LS430 for dessert THRICE (55mph punch to lift at 130, easy .5- 1.5 car length each time).
Nice drive home with a few arse-whuppins under her belt... )
Anybody in Phoenix wanna bring one to SpeedWorld on a Wednesday night?
Or better yet, let's meet up on the I-17 NB around Pinnacle Peak - That's where Quella had a new LS430 for dessert THRICE (55mph punch to lift at 130, easy .5- 1.5 car length each time).
Nice drive home with a few arse-whuppins under her belt... )
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Q45RaCiNg_JR
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Yes, ls430 and Q are close. I know from what I've read the the Q beats the LS in passing times, 50-70+ etc, and also beats the FX45 in those times. I'd love to see a drag between the old and the new.
It seems to me, the newer cars get the smoother they get, which makes them feel not as quick. I like that grunt feeling when you slam the pedal down. With most newer cars, that's gone.
It seems to me, the newer cars get the smoother they get, which makes them feel not as quick. I like that grunt feeling when you slam the pedal down. With most newer cars, that's gone.
Jason,
You absolutely pegged it..
With the original, it wasn't full step vvt.. so you got almost like a turbo kick on the high end..
With these new cars, they have continuously variable valve timing.. so its just effortless accelration..
I've heard many many many old q owners, say that about the new Q/M..
I'm not going near a new q/m stock..
Give me some of the default mods, I think it's close..
I love your Q.. I love how that S55 guy, has basically the same horsepower, and he had to get an AMG model.. I love how the VK45de was introduced nearly 3 years ago, and still tops all the competitors engines..
I love Infiniti.
Now if Infiniti would just do the amg thing, for no other reason, but to do it..
That's made BMW real butthurt
Look at the new M5
8500 RPM v10500 hp
lol..
You absolutely pegged it..
With the original, it wasn't full step vvt.. so you got almost like a turbo kick on the high end..
With these new cars, they have continuously variable valve timing.. so its just effortless accelration..
I've heard many many many old q owners, say that about the new Q/M..
I'm not going near a new q/m stock..
Give me some of the default mods, I think it's close..
I love your Q.. I love how that S55 guy, has basically the same horsepower, and he had to get an AMG model.. I love how the VK45de was introduced nearly 3 years ago, and still tops all the competitors engines..
I love Infiniti.
Now if Infiniti would just do the amg thing, for no other reason, but to do it..
That's made BMW real butthurt
Look at the new M5
8500 RPM v10500 hp
lol..