2002+ Q45/2003-2004 M45 Brake rotor comparison

[marksport]

I did a writeup on the brakes for the 2002+ F50-chassis Q45/2003-04 Y34-chassis M45 on FreshAlloy.

[maxnix]

Ah yes, run with the big dogs or stay on the porch!

[elwesso]

thanks for the link mark..

Do you mind if I take your writeups on FA and post them as articles on NICO?

[marksport]

I promised that this article would be exclusive to FA. I will be posting more on my car soon as I'm still working on it, this is only the beginning

[maxnix]

I promised that this article would be exclusive to FA.

Interesting! Is that because they are subsidizing the project? I don't think NICO has any such requirements, but neither would it be inclined to offer a member a subsidy for modifications to his vehicle.
Modified by maxnix at 10:11 AM 11/13/2006

[elwesso]

I promised that this article would be exclusive to FA. I will be posting more on my car soon as I'm still working on it, this is only the beginning

unfortunate that they would ask you to do that.

[nchopp]

unfortunate that they would ask you to do that.

And yet not surprising in the least.

[Falkdesigns]

Ah yes, run with the big dogs or stay on the porch!

Did you fail to notice he's using bolt on spacers??? The world will end soon and his car is seconds away from mechanical failure and impending explosion!!

That's a great write up Mark. Any word on the wheels yet?

[maxnix]

Did you fail to notice he's using bolt on spacers??? The world will end soon and his car is seconds away from mechanical failure and impending explosion!!

Any word on the wheels yet?

He said more modifications are coming. I am sure he realizes proper wheels will be required in the future so he can chuck the dead weight of the spacers.

[Falkdesigns]

Yeah, that pound really makes a difference. I could sure tell when I had mine on there for a solid year; the car rode like crap, it shook all the time, and the steering wheel felt like it was going to break too. /sarcasm/ There was absolutely no difference in ride quality between the wheels I ran with spacers, and the wheels with none.

[AZhitman]

Did you fail to notice he's using bolt on spacers??? The world will end soon and his car is seconds away from mechanical failure and impending explosion!!

My, my.. aren't we sensitive?

I don't think anyone critiqued his use of spacers... Settle down.

Too bad the only people that will read it will be because of the link here... Probably doubled their traffic for the day.

[Falkdesigns]

Sensitive? No. Extremely sarcastic? Yes.

[elwesso]

Did you fail to notice he's using bolt on spacers??? The world will end soon and his car is seconds away from mechanical failure and impending explosion!!

That's a great write up Mark. Any word on the wheels yet?

i REALLY appreciate you bringing this into the discussion

[marksport]

The reason is that I get a custom title on FA for letting them have the exclusive on that write up. The spacers are a must because there is not enough wheel spoke clearance with the factory 18" and 20" wheels. I chose hubcentric spacers because it would reduce if not eliminate wheel viabrations and also because I don't trust the studs to take the load of the car if the hub rings are gone. I remember a bus a few years ago had a broken stud. The increased load on the remaining 9 studs caused them all to shear off. The wheel came off, rolled down the street and struck a pedestrian, killing her. As for wheels, I have 2 sets of 18", one of them with snow tires , 2 sets aftermarket of 19" and and 2 sets of FX45 20" (of the 8 20" wheels, 4 are on the car, 1 is the trunk spare, and the 3 are spare with no tires). Ok, I'll let it out of the cat out of the bag....I'll be doing a writeup on the stereo and new electronics, took 10 weeks to install ....the VLSD unit installed since no F50 Q45 or Y34 M45 have one stock .... and the reason why I got these Brembo brakes, the crown jewel...



The Supercharger

[elwesso]

doesnt look like you have a custom title... oh well, great information

Too bad they try and secure information, when all you have to do is read the info and make another writeup using yours as a source!!

[maxnix]

The reason is that I get a custom title on FA for letting them have the exclusive on that write up.

Hey, I guarantee NICO will give you a bigger title, and let you post anywhere you want, if that is what it takes!

Hope it's not the Keuylian set-up. I have seen too many of those die.

[marksport]

Hey, I guarantee NICO will give you a bigger title, and let you post anywhere you want, if that is what it takes!

Hope it's not the Keuylian set-up. I have seen too many of those die.

It is a Keuylian SC. Can you tell me what happened?

[elwesso]

Mark, you never mentioned in there what those brakes came off of?????? I hope im not being dense because I read that a few times!

[marksport]

Brakes were purchased new from Brembo since they were supposed to be on the car but were stolen

[Falkdesigns]

I'm a firm believer that a quality, hub-centric, bolt-on spacer such as you have (and I used to) will provide no ill effects at all.

I can't wait to see that SC'd beast when you finish it! I guess that's the one from STi that I drove when it was complete a year ago huh? It was quite a rush to drive! I assume it's going to have a full kit too. I have puddle lights that would be great on it (in addition to wheels)

[elwesso]

Brakes were purchased new from Brembo since they were supposed to be on the car but were stolen

well what is the kit for??? they never make stuff for Q45s, they just make stuff that happens to fit Q45s... Im guessing it was the brembos for a Z32 or Z33 (probably Z33/V35)

[maxnix]

It is a Keuylian SC. Can you tell me what happened?

Saw 3 of them go through the used car lot at Infiniti of Kirland, two with the low 40K miles. Deduced something is wrong if people are dumping them so soon.

Two I know had the 355mm Brembos up front, but stockers in back. Go figure. By the 3rd one, I was too bored to look.

[marksport]

Yes, I bought it from STI. I'm turning it back to stock since it's just a Sport model compared to my Premium.

[maxnix]

well what is the kit for??? they never make stuff for Q45s, they just make stuff that happens to fit Q45s...

No, there is a Brembo front BBK for the F50.

Getting the correct rears is what is tricky.

[elwesso]

Ok... I got it now!!!

[marksport]

To tell you the truth, I don't think there's anything wrong with the SC setup, rather it's the car itself. They don't hold their value compared to an LS430 and considering the cost of the SC itself, most people that buy Q45 aren't tuners or tinkerers like myself. And for the price of a SC Q45, you aren't that far from an S55 AMG. I like the exclusivity of having this car and know how it comes together doing it myself...and the fact that the EXE show in LA in the Infiniti Class winners were all G35....I'll be there next summer.

[marksport]

Brembo is the only one that makes a kit for the F50 Q45 other than a JDM kit that I have heard gossip of. No one makes the rear and this kit is engineered to work with the stock rears to maintain the brake balance. I wasn't going to take the chance that the balance would be off if I was to try and modify a kit made for say the G35/350Z. Would have been a bit cheaper but is the risk worth it? The stock work well but will fade and warp after a few hard stops. These Brembo won't. BBK are made to reduce fade, not always braking distance.

[Falkdesigns]

Wooo!! So I'll see you next summer then, if not sooner. I also don't think it's something wrong with the SC, it's the owners, and just because someone is selling one with low miles, doesn't mean there's something wrong with it. I know ton's of guys that build up cars, drive them for a year or less and then start over on another one.

[maxnix]

To tell you the truth, I don't think there's anything wrong with the SC setup, rather it's the car itself.

Does not follow.

If I had an autobahn burner that ran perfectly for what the F50 with Keuylian cost new, I wouldn't dump it at 4xK miles to eat the depreciation.

[Falkdesigns]

You are not the only personality type that build up cars. Actually, yours stay rather stock. Like I said above, I know plenty of people that buy cars, build them up, drive them a very short while, sell and repeat.

That does follow. At least to me it does. If I had the money, I'd have a different car every 2 years. Now my one friend, he's out of control, he drives a car for like 6 months, that's just crazy, he must loose so much on depreciation.