2001 QX4 (wants to crank but seems like motor not gettin gas

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davidezquerra
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Could use some help here guys.... I'm new to the site but have seen alot of good info. here so here is my PROBLEM..
I have a 2001 QX4 and one day it drove fine and the next day i went to crank it and it wanted to crank but it wouldn't. it seems like i have no gas gettin to the motor. power everywhere else but no gas. Yes it has gas in the tank. almost like there is a fuel cut off. So if anyone can help i would appreciate it.

Thanks.. :confused:
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Does it start up if you give it some gas while trying to crank?

davidezquerra
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no. just keeps tryin to fire over. im not getting any gas to the motor

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Have you actually verified you are geting no fuel by pulling off the return line or checking the fuel pressure on the rail or anything??

Or are you guessing? Sure you got gas?? Needle might be lying... gallon couldnt hurt

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Densetsu
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Have you checked the fuse and the relay for the fuel pump? And have you noticed any other components of the vehicle not functioning?

Also, after you try cranking the engine, watch the SECURITY light to the left of the steering wheel. If NATS doesn't recognize the key in the ignition, it'll disable the fuel pump and turn the security light on solid.

davidezquerra
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to CauckQX4. yes i know there is plenty of gas in the tank. I'm not that stupid.

davidezquerra
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Densetsu,
CHecked the fuses and relays and all is good ad everything seems to be working ok. Will check to see what the security lite does when i try and start it. Thanks

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asnorton44
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Do you have spark?

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CanuckQx4
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Didnt answer if you checked to see if you have fuel at the rail or if you just guessed because the car isnt starting...

PMcGrath2002
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I just had this problem on my 2002 QX4. I bet you the problem is in your immobilizer box in the steering column. i had the same symptoms. car cranked, seemed like it was not getting any fuel and the security light came on and stayed on. my scan tool read code 1610 which comes down to a security issue. they replace it and it fired right up.

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muddfildvaynes
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Had the same problem and went as far as replacing the fuel pump and it still didn't want to start.... turns out it was the distrubuter..... put a new one in and it fired right up, drives perfect now that i timed it.

davidezquerra
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Thanks for the info about the imobilizer thing. yes my 2001 qx4 is doing exactly that. when i try to turn the car over the security light comes on solid and when i turn key off the security lite is un lit. Question: is there a relay or module ? how do i fix it in the steering column ?

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For me, the problem happened on a semi-frequent basis -- maybe once every ten tries? I tried switching to my spare Pathy key, which was pretty much brand new, and the problem went away. I never investigated the issue further. I was thinking of spraying out the ignition lock cylinder with some electrical contact cleaner, and then some silicon (or other dry lubricant that doesn't leave a film behind, like graphite) -- the intermittent problem suggested a bad contact between the key and whatever electrical contacts detect the chip in the key. But never got around to doing that.

There is a module inside the steering column, the NVIS Immobilizer module (aka IMMU) sitting on top of the ignition lock cylinder, and there are a few fuses (62, 24, 16). These may be the problem, or it could just be a faulty key or dirty contacts in the cylinder.

Oh, and if you try pulling OBD-II codes in the near future and see any of the codes [P1610,P1611,P1612,P1613,P1614,P1615], those are codes related to the NVIS / anti-theft system. They won't trigger the check engine light, but will stick around for a while. (P1614 is what I had -- "IMMU cannot receive the key ID signal").

A side note: If you try and start the QX4/Pathy and it fails five times in a row due to the NVIS system, it'll go into "lock mode" and you won't be able to start it even with a good key. If you have a scan tool and pull the code P1610, this means you're stuck in lock mode. To reset and get out of lock mode, perform the following steps:

1. Turn ignition switch off.
2. Turn ignition switch on with good key. Do not start engine. Wait 5 seconds.
3. Turn ignition switch off.
4. Repeat steps 2 and 3 twice (total of three cycles).
5. Start the engine.

There's more info in the factory service manual (in the Electrical System section), but a lot of the steps involve using the CONSULT-II tool that the dealerships have. There's not a lot of testing/diagnostics a DIY mechanic can do.

crazyjackcracker
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bringin it back from the dead!
I have the same exact issues as mentioned here and I believe that the problem is the NVIS/IVIS system. I have done numerous searches for IMMU, NVIS, IVIS and NATS and can't seem to find anything. Does anyone know where can I locate these replacement parts?!?

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Just wanted to follow up on my post. It turned out to be the immobilizer unit lost it's memory and needed to be replaced and reprogrammed. If you are looking for the part number, it is:
CONTROL UNIT-IM
28590-C9901
It is made by Nissan and runs for about $150. Hope this helps someone else out there.

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Thanks for posting your solution!

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Densetsu wrote:Have you checked the fuse and the relay for the fuel pump? And have you noticed any other components of the vehicle not functioning?

Also, after you try cranking the engine, watch the SECURITY light to the left of the steering wheel. If NATS doesn't recognize the key in the ignition, it'll disable the fuel pump and turn the security light on solid.
I JUST REPLACED MY IACV, ECM AND MOBILIZER W KEY PROGRAMMED WITH THE NEW ECM BUT CAR WONT START AND IM GETTING SOLID RED LIGHT WHEN TRYING TO START..PLEASE HELP :wtf2: :wtf2:

BTW I HAVE A 2001 INFINITI I30


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