2001 QX4 Spoiler important?

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Does the rear spoiler/wing make much of a difference aerodynamically, or is it just for looks?

The left side of mine has snapped off so I removed it just now.


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It is supposed to have the effect of reducing aerodynamic drag. At highway speeds over many miles, some improvement in mpg can be realized. I installed an original Nissan air spoiler on my '02 Pathfinder, with a slight modification to the mounts since the outer shell of my rear hatch was not designed for one. There was no remarkable improvement in mpg I was able to detect but I think it looks awesome.

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It's my understanding that it is to reduce dust/dirt build-up on the rear window, improving rear visibility.

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AlanAZ wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:17 am
It's my understanding that it is to reduce dust/dirt build-up on the rear window, improving rear visibility.
I suppose it would have some effect on that as well but I doubt engineering went through the trouble of designing an aerodynamic solution for the purpose of dirt reduction on the rear window when they already had a washer/wiper solution for that. I really haven't noticed any difference with respect to my rear end being cleaner since I installed mine. Improved rear wheel traction, especially beneficial in high speed braking and cornering, is another essential element of an engineered solution with air spoiler designs. As we all know, the Pathfinder and QX4 are notoriously out of balance with respect to their center of gravity being shifted too far forward, making the rear end susceptible to uncontrolled wobble and traction issues.
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mdmellott wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:48 am

I really haven't noticed any difference with respect to my rear end being cleaner since I installed mine.
pun intended? lol

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04pathse wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:16 am
mdmellott wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:48 am

I really haven't noticed any difference with respect to my rear end being cleaner since I installed mine.
pun intended? lol
Ever since the covid-19 thing, supermarkets have been short on tp. :chuckle:

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mdmellott wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:48 am
Improved rear wheel traction, especially beneficial in high speed braking and cornering, is another essential element of an engineered solution with air spoiler designs.
:confused: Why is it that it is angled the opposite of every other rear spoiler that is known to improve rear wheel traction. Think F1, Le Mans, touring car, and even Porsche Cayenne. While it's rear window cleaning ability does little for city and hwy driving, it has considerably more effect for dirt road driving, which SUVs are known to do, and rear wipers can only help so much. :)

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AlanAZ wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:38 am
...rear wipers can only help so much.
That's one dirty rear end.

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AlanAZ wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:38 am
mdmellott wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:48 am
Improved rear wheel traction, especially beneficial in high speed braking and cornering, is another essential element of an engineered solution with air spoiler designs.
:confused: Why is it that it is angled the opposite of every other rear spoiler that is known to improve rear wheel traction. Think F1, Le Mans, touring car, and even Porsche Cayenne. While it's rear window cleaning ability does little for city and hwy driving, it has considerably more effect for dirt road driving, which SUVs are known to do, and rear wipers can only help so much. :)
There are always compromises and trade-offs with spoilers. Fuel economy is the hardest hit, such as with those on high performance vehicles, as you noted, that are meant solely for the purpose of rear end traction. Although there is some effect of this with the older Pathfinder and QX4 spoilers, their primary benefit is to reduce that vacuum drag created by their boxy back end without compromising fuel economy from excessive down forces. The trade-off and benefit here is that a slight compromise of downward force drag is offset by a higher drag reduction in the vacuum drag force, and it might help keep your rear end cleaner as well.


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