20"s on a 98 q45t and bunch of questions

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hey i got a question will 20" fit on my 98 q45t and what size tire would I need. if so would i still be able to do the drop springs that one guy is selling off this forum. if he has any left........................... i sure hope so. right now im running 19 and i wanna bigger rims and a drop. as for as the drop is there anything i would to to change to fix the camber so it would wont have negative camber? i already have camber issuses with my 19"s but i think its time to change the struts out. anyone have any pointers on the struts. i have heard that if you use the KYB struts the go out really fast compared to the stock struts.

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Br78 on 13 inch rims look way cooler.....the huge rim look is played out,kinda like the whole spinner craze. Just imagine all that beautiful sidewall of those BR78 tires soaked in armorall,setting off those cute 13 inch alloys or better yet wire spoke wheels.Dare to be different,stand out from the boyz in the hood,make your unique statement by going small.

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"Dubs" is Ebonics for "Anchors." Not only that, the rubber bands that will fit on them will be guaranteed to be below OEM minimum load rating which will seriously impact safety and performance.

So do some research first here and at Tire Rack, then choose what tire you want to fit as they are not all created equal. Then find the correct forged wheel of minimal weight but sufficent strength and size to support your choice of tire but still clear the fender, suspension and calipers.

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my 245/35/20s have a load rating of 95

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I agree with Maxnix on this.

I see a lot of people buy the cheap set of wheels and tires and get some barely legal Nankang junk or some other off brand imported tires. I am sure there are good tires with < 35 profile out there, I know very little in this area though.

As for your alignment issues I really don't think you will be able to resolve your camber issues after not only increasing the total wheel diameter but lowering the vehicle something is going to run. If the wheels rub on the fender you will destroy them pretty quickly. You may be able to have the fenders rolled or other wise modified.

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lasoyafan wrote:my 245/35/20s have a load rating of 95
I can imagine who crappy it must feel every time you hit an expansion joint, manhole cover, or pothole with those size tire/wheel......certainly takes the luxury out of the car while providing little if no benefit....unless you want to look like gangsta from the inna city.

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I would have to guess that would be pretty harsh, but my PS2 in 18-255/40 were not. But they were load rated at 99.

I think the main point is, wise owners try to exceed the minimum load rating for performance and wear.

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I don't personally get it I have driven a few Qs with dubs, QX56s with 24 or 6 or something like that, and drop springs on an 06 M. The look doesn't offset the poor ride quality to me personally, but maybe I am getting old.

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20's and a 2 inch drop from those Elispir springs will fit just fine with a 35 series tire just fine with no rubbing as long as you dont go with a super low offset. If you want the deep dish you will most likely need to do a little rolling and trimming.

As for exceeding tire wieght ratings, dont make me laugh the car only weighs 3900lbs and the lower profile tires(even the cheapos) have stiff as hell reinforced sidewalls, I have 35 series and you cant even tell they have dropped air till they hit 10 psi.

No matter what you do, be it wheels, a drop, or wheels and a drop your ride quality is going to suffer, if its too low, your too old.

KYB makes a great NON-OEM quality part, if you want the life expectancy of OEM, buy OEM.


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LuckyBoyOne3 wrote:As for exceeding tire wieght ratings, dont make me laugh the car only weighs 3900lbs and the lower profile tires(even the cheapos) have stiff as hell reinforced sidewalls, I have 35 series and you cant even tell they have dropped air till they hit 10 psi.

No matter what you do, be it wheels, a drop, or wheels and a drop your ride quality is going to suffer, if its too low, your too old.
Obviously you are obsessed with your car as an ornament and don't consider dynamic weight loading. Sidewall stiffness does not compensate for improper inflation. If you can't tell your car is below 25 psi when you drive, you have no clue, not unlike most Prius and Pinto drivers.

The lack of mention of the effect of additional unsprung and rotating mass speaks volumes about your lack of knowledge of suspension functioning.

It is not a question of age but the physics of dyanmic performance vs. a static oranmental doorstop. Most here prefer the former.

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haha you are a funny, funny, man.

As a matter of fact, the 19's I am running with tire weigh only about 2lbs more then My stock set up each, so the un-sprung weight is not enough to have an adverse effect on anything, and neither is the additional rotating mass (still smashing on the mustang crowd) the tires I am running have the handeling characteristics I was looking for in a tire (more important to me then ride quality), and Lastly I am fully aware of when a tire is low in air, I was speaking from a visual aspect.

I did drop it a little far, but, wheel gap makes me sick so I'll just have to compensate for it with a little driving ability.

With that said you can kiss my knowledge.

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245/35/20s on the Q with the body kit on it...and it effects the ride to a point but in K.C.Ks theres a pot hole every ten feet.I do have some rubbing issues on the exit ramps above 50. doesnt everyone get into the GANGSTA mood every once in awhile?????

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so 20" will fit with a 245/35 the custom shop by my house said it would be best to run 225/35 with 20" x 8" rim but i dont know the off set of the rim but it would be sick to have some major lip on the rims where can i get the drop springs at and how much is the drop 1 or 2"?

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do you have a drop on your car or is stock with the 20" hey man if theres any mods or anything i can do to make my q stand out let me know right now im want to get rid of the 19"s and get 20" and dub-in in dash dvd player and some new subs in the truck. i wanna know all your mods you have done

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timderiksen wrote:do you have a drop on your car or is stock with the 20" hey man if theres any mods or anything i can do to make my q stand out let me know right now im want to get rid of the 19"s and get 20" and dub-in in dash dvd player and some new subs in the truck. i wanna know all your mods you have done
my car is lowered with JIC coilovers, as far as mods I don't feel like listing them, once I'm done with the cardomain page I'll link it.

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I have a 97 Q with 245/35/20 on 9 inch wide wheels with +10 offset. They have never rubbed once. Looks like theres plenty of room to drop it too. It's a good thing that the shock mount doesnt move though because theres only about 3/4 inch clearence between that and the tire.

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Oh, I forgot to answer about your negative camber question, You can use 240sx aftermarket adjustable rear upper control arms (RUCAS) to help with that problem.

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maxnix wrote:"Dubs" is Ebonics for "Anchors." Not only that, the rubber bands that will fit on them will be guaranteed to be below OEM minimum load rating which will seriously impact safety and performance.
Bulls**t! I have/had 20" rims on my car and my tires exceeds the min. OEM rating of 94. My load rating is 97 on my tires! Speak facts and research the TireRack site that you speak of so much.

For the OP, yes you can put those wheels on your car. You can go with 245/35/20 size tires. I don't know anything about struts.

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timderiksen wrote:do you have a drop on your car or is stock with the 20" hey man if theres any mods or anything i can do to make my q stand out let me know right now im want to get rid of the 19"s and get 20" and dub-in in dash dvd player and some new subs in the truck. i wanna know all your mods you have done
I just dropped a in dash dvd player in my car and love it. I haven't done much mods myself but changed all of my interior/tag light to l.e.d.'s. I'm too old for subs. I couldn't take all of that banging in my ears now lol.

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I don't see where it would be worth it to do a 19" to 20" change, but if that is what you want to do see if you can find some 20" FX45 rims, they are OEM, have the exact offset and there will be no rubbing.

You can do the lowering springs and I would highly recommend the KYB's SR Specials. I do NOT think they will last a shorter time than OEM, i completly buy into OEM quality for alternators, starters, etc but for shocks/stuts I'll take a good quality Bilstein, KYB or Koni over what come stock any day of the week. And with KYB you get lifetime warranty, of course with our gray market imports it will be tough to get the warranty but i put the KYB Gas Adjusts on my 300ZX in 1992 and they are still very good.

Tire size I'd go 245/35 or 245/40, i think 225 is too small and the more meat you can fit the better. I have my 97' setup with the Tein lowering springs, KYB SR Specials and 19" M45 Sport Enkei rims, which required 1" spacers but no way to get it to rub no matter how hard I corner.

For sure the luxury ride is compromised but mostly when you hit expansion joints, pot holes, etc. For me it was worth it as I wanted a better and stiffer handling on the car. I would get the lower springs and SR Specials first, see how you like it with the 19" rims before you go out and buy 20" ones. That is going to run you 2 grand by the time your done with installation.

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I bought eibach lowering springs,I got them from our classifieds here on nico.theyre not on the car yet though.Im still running the stock springs.theres really not much diffrence with the 19to 20'' rims...the type of rim is the diffrence.Its all about personal preference with your Q. Its all about how you see things with your car.my rims arent the exact off set and they do have rubbing issues.badq45t has his points as does maxnix if you see them that way.theres alot of good points of views here,if you look at things from theyre views as well as your own. Ive had some really nice cars,one that I put almost 10k into,nakamichi amps,alpine head unit.interior tricked out.but I always had mechanical Issues with it.I dont want to deal with what Ive had to w/this Q.mines a 91 yours is a 98,theres some diffrences.I know wes had posted about some lowering springs sometime back....Im with badQ45t Id lower it with the 19" rims and see what you think.

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For the record, the cast 18x9 OZ Racing wheels are the same weight as OEM 16x7 but the tire is 1 lb. heavier than the previous 245/50-16 (never had stock tires), but 4 pt.s higher in load rating at 100XL.

I'll run any 19" or 20" set up for a FGY33 on a closed course for time, wet and dry. Come on down and bring money.

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You start going for rare oddball sizes you are going to pay through the nose for tires.

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god I wish i lived near Manix and could go out and see if my 97' setup could out do him on a slalom cone setup in a parking lot..I think I could give you a run for your money with my setup! But I know Gen 1 had some good handling and you guys bash 2nd gen, but my car handles so much different than stock it isn't even funny.

BTW, the lowering springs & SR Specials will make MUCH MUCH MUCH bigger difference than 20's.

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Ive got 2 1st gen. Qs is there a big diffrence in handling .... Ive been eyeing a 2nd gen Q but dont really know what to look for far as wear goes???Im hesitant to go on peoples word with maint,and its very rare to get a maint. history on paper for an older Q. I dont think Id be wishing to live anywhere near maxnix right now...he noted a WET OR DRY course.Odds are the course is gonna be real wet.(hope things are the best for ya down there)

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The 1st gen has the double wishbone which is a great setup. The struts and multilink on the 2nd are still great, hell, Porche and lots of others are setup that way too. My car handles like it is on rails with front strut bars stock and the work I did to it.

I agree, finding someone that has done the work to keep the car up are rare, people like me that flush everything long before it is due with Red Line products don't usually plan to sell their cars My Q isn't for sale, I just cannot get anything close to what it is worth and I plan to drive it for 5-6 more years at least. If your not in a hurry you can find one...but also some of the 3rd gens are nice. I do not like the outside look but the motor and the extra gear (5 speed) with the 340 HP engine are great, but they are more complicated and the engines are not as bullet-proof as second gen. They have oil leaking issues if not broken in properly. But I'd like 3rd gen at this point, the prices on them are dropping like a rock.


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