2.5s vs 3.5se

[Hussain]

ok so i was leaving school and on my way to meet my friend at taco bell (like 1-2 miles up the street) and as i'm going i see a Altima sedan behind me thats the same color as my car (dark slate) so i was like oh thats cool..... then i see him start driving aggressive like he wanted to try and race me or something. so we end up stopping at a red light. light turns green and he takes off..... it took me a second to realize he was trying to race me. so then i get on it. i was barely gaining until my RPMs got up high, then i flew past him. then we caught another red light and i took him from start to finish no problem but i was just surprised how quick it was able to take off, like low end power.....

[Hussain]

oh ya and last night i got humiliated by a 300zx idk what he had done but he beat me like nothing ever has. i've gotten beat by a G37 before and it slowly pulled ahead. this 300zx gave me a head start and then flew past me like i was parked or something it was a 12 sec car if not quicker. after like 1 sec, when he was like 4-5 car lengths ahead, i just stopped lol he beat me worse then when i play with motorcycles

[rjdmmfl1]

ok so i was leaving school and on my way to meet my friend at taco bell (like 1-2 miles up the street) and as i'm going i see a Altima sedan behind me thats the same color as my car (dark slate) so i was like oh thats cool..... then i see him start driving aggressive like he wanted to try and race me or something. so we end up stopping at a red light. light turns green and he takes off..... it took me a second to realize he was trying to race me. so then i get on it. i was barely gaining until my RPMs got up high, then i flew past him. then we caught another red light and i took him from start to finish no problem but i was just surprised how quick it was able to take off, like low end power.....

well, unlike Hondas, even our 2.5L has pretty good HP/TQ ratio, even at low end...

so yeah, it doesn't surprise me at all... I have the 2.5 , and when you take off from a dead start, I'd say the first 2 seconds or so there's only minimal difference... but once you hit the higher RPM's, that's where you really feel the power in the 3.5 during acceleration...

when I drive my 2.5, it sometimes takes me a while to realize why i stopped accelerating like I normally do...

so, for quickness, I'd say the 2.5 is quick enough.. its just overall raw top end power that it lacks

[rjdmmfl1]

oh ya and last night i got humiliated by a 300zx idk what he had done but he beat me like nothing ever has. i've gotten beat by a G37 before and it slowly pulled ahead. this 300zx gave me a head start and then flew past me like i was parked or something it was a 12 sec car if not quicker. after like 1 sec, when he was like 4-5 car lengths ahead, i just stopped lol he beat me worse then when i play with motorcycles

well, you gotta remember, there was the normal 300Z, which we should be able to take, and then there was the twin turbo... regardless, the 300Z was a real sports car with unlimited tuning ability

even the stock twin turbo 300z, if you're going with him on the expressway, and they drop into third and take off... you're toast buddy! DO

[SaiDori]

Which chassis was it, the Z31 or the Z32?

[Hussain]

ya i read somewhere that the twin turbo one does like 13.9 or 13.8 bone stock and they have tons of potential. there are a couple non turbo ones around here that sometimes try to race me and i beat them so i was thinking the same with this one but i was in for a huge suprise lol

about the 2.5, my mom used to have a 2005 2.5s stick shift and thats the car i learned how to drive with...... me and my mom would always get on it and it was pretty quick. i just thought that since the 3.5se has like 80 more pounds of torque and 100 more HP i'd walk all over it...... but the 2.5s are pretty quick

[Hussain]

Which chassis was it, the Z31 or the Z32?

it was the Z32...... it beat me worse then when i play with sport bikes lol

[NYblkcoupe]

about the 2.5, my mom used to have a 2005 2.5s stick shift and thats the car i learned how to drive with...... me and my mom would always get on it and it was pretty quick. i just thought that since the 3.5se has like 80 more pounds of torque and 100 more HP i'd walk all over it...... but the 2.5s are pretty quick

Yea i love the car its fast enough for me, because it only tops at 113 so it'll keep me sorta safe lol . But then again i wish i had that little bit extra like you do.

[LinkNuc]

I saw a show where they raced cars in the 1/4 mile and you had to bet on which would win, 1996 300ZX vs 2003 350Z, 350Z had it off the line then the ZX pulled it in, so yeah a 300ZX TT would put us down quick...now it does depend on the driver but if you raced yourself 300ZX TT would win everytime.

[3.5coupegal]

MUST HAVE BEEN A REAL ****TY DRIVER

[08coupedriver]

There was an IS250 keeping up with me today I was a little surprised and shocked

[Hussain]

MUST HAVE BEEN A REAL ****TY DRIVER

who me? i drive pretty good. i know blake is going to say its getting old again but i actually did a 13.9 with my car which is the best any non-turbo altima coupe has gotten....

[adidas2go]

No, I think he was saying the 350z driver must have ****ty. I tell you what, If the new VQ35HR can't take a mid 90's 300hp car, then something is wrong. That 300zx is heavy, 2 decades old, and has only lost power over its life. Unless one of those is rebuilt like a mother, it should be degraded a lot.

[Hussain]

ya i wasn't sure if she was talking about me or the 350z because she hit the reply button next to my post lol i think the show that guy was talking about was "pass time" on the speed channel. most of those cars on there have a lot done to them so it could have been a 300zx with a lot done to it......

[LinkNuc]

No that was some British show, stock vs stock and actually the 1990's ZX TT are's pretty darn quick..TT so I believe it, like I said initially the 2003 350Z (287HP/274ft-lbs, i owned a Brickyard Touring!)had it then the 300ZX reeled it in and won by a little more than a nose...and actually there a quite a few stock 90's cars that give us a what for:

Also the HR was not available in 2003, the HP has gone from 287 to 306 over the last...there's a video out on youtube, i'll try and fins it

Oh and don't forget out cars both 350Z and A/C are FAT (Heavy)

the 1993/1995 300ZX is 5.2 to 5.5 sec to 60 1/4 13.8-13.9, so that's gonna be close every time...woill likely walk the A/C..also the ZX TT was 300HP from the factory.

1992 Dodge Stealth Turbo

Certain 1990's RX-7's

mOST 1990'S Mitsubishis 3000GT models

Some 1990's Mustangs, most not

Some 1990's Camaros (not most)

They are out there, don;t kid yourself

[adidas2go]

Theres all kinds of things arong with your post,

First, the comparison I made wasn't about an 03 DE motor, I compared an 07+ HR. I know what years and motor codes were used on the 350z.

Secondly, 3000 pounds is hardly fat.

As for your list of cars, this is only if these cars were brand new against the 350z:

Only MAYBE the Stealth R/T-TT would beat our cars, thats a heavy b*tch

The RX-7 TT was 276hp, thats also a drivers race

Only the VR4 3000GT would beat our cars, again a drivers race

What stock Mustang from the 90's will beat the 350z?

Ill give you 5.7L Camaro's

[3ugene]

Agree with everything... but obviously those cars above mentioned have alot more tunning potential than ours. Then again, if we were looking for a tuning monster capable of doing 400-500 with considerably little work we wouldnt of opted for the Altima.

Yes, i know you've already boosted your Altima but lets be serious how much power can you pump into a front wheel drive, front engine car with a CRAPPY stock transmission and have it feel like a true race car.

[LinkNuc]

Right, all I was saying is that the DE motor was the one that went against the ZX, I am not taking the the HR motor into account for any of this, only point I was trying to make is that there are stock 90's vehicles that'll give us a run for our money for sure in our catergory.

The Mustangs considered to be formidable (aganst A/C not Z) are the cobras of that era, the GT ran about a 6 flat to 60 but I have seen a GT smoked by a SHO... so nevermind...I was in to the 2000's when I was considering Mustangs that could walk a 3.5 A/C.

One thing I will say is that my '03 350Z definitely had more pull and available tq off the get go...and ther is no chance that if I am racing Myself (exact same driving habits) a stock A/C is beating a stock Z, (manual transmission) sorry.

But I truely believe a 1993/95 300ZX TT (driver's have the same driving habits, i.e. robots driving the cars) would walk a stock 3.5 A/C.

[Sacky2.5]

the 300zx is hands down, the car i had the most fun driving. that ***** pulls like crazy, and i have no doubt it would smoke the 3.5A/C. sure the car could be 18+ years old, but as long as the owner kept it up well, there's no question about it - the 300zx is a BEAST.

i'd trade my 2.5 for a excellent condition z32tt any day.

[SaiDori]

The show your are thinking of is an episode from the British Show called "Top Gear." Here is a link to the clip, the Z32 and Z33 race is at the end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMgPcluchYI

The purpose of this clip was to demonstrate the performance of older cars in comparison to the new renditions we have till this day. The hosts for this show review cars and are very reputable, so I doubt they use crappy drivers for these comparisons. They do use the STIG after all in doing their car reviews.

[LinkNuc]

That's gotta be what I'm talking about, I can't get to youtube at work, but I'll check it out when I get home. If it's where they vote on which will win and the 300ZX pulls it out in the end then it's gotta be the right one...

Yup that was exactly what I was talking about, and again a 300ZX TT vs 3.5 a/c would lose by a car length int the 1/5 mile lol
Modified by LinkNuc at 8:28 AM 10/10/2008